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Bane vs Ozymandias (movie versions)
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
If anyone could provide me with an explanation of how Bane lands a single hit on Ozy I'd love to hear it.
Until then Ozymandias wins without much difficulty.
Ozy wins... faster, greater or equal strength, greater intelligence. Dont know about durability, but I dont think Bane will tag Ozy.
@mrtrickster said:
not sure about stronger though, bane punched through concrete
Bane didnt punch through concrete. he cracked concrete. Its not like he made a gaping hole.. Doesnt matter anyway. Bane is going against a guy who has such good reflexes, he can catch bullets at point blank range. Bane wont be able to touch this guy.
he took a good-sized chunk out of concrete pillar, pretty sure that topped anything strength feat ozy had@mrtrickster said:
not sure about stronger though, bane punched through concreteBane didnt punch through concrete. he cracked concrete. Its not like he made a gaping hole
I honestly don't know, Ozzy in the movie seemed almost super naturally strong, while Bane was durable as hell taking Batman's punches and catching his fists literally which isn't easy to do fighting Batman lol. So not sure, could go either way I think. Leaning Bane because of ferociousness. Good match.
@mrtrickster said:
@rdskns4eva said:he took a good-sized chunk out of concrete pillar, pretty sure that topped anything strength feat ozy had@mrtrickster said:
not sure about stronger though, bane punched through concreteBane didnt punch through concrete. he cracked concrete. Its not like he made a gaping hole
Ozy tossed a 220 pound man through a window. Bane didnt do anything even remotely close to that. Hell, the comedian was punching through the wall in his apartment. Granted it wasnt concrete, but it was still a wall. And again, he didnt take chunks out of anything. He cracked it. Impressive? Yes. Was that one feat better all the feats I listed for Ozy? No.
Besides, punching concrete and lifting Batman above his head, what else did Bane do that Ozy didnt do infinitely better? And pucnhing concrete really doesnt mean anything at the end of the day. Captain America didnt punch concrete, but everyone knows he is stronger than Bane. Bane is just a big guy who is high on pain killers. Thats it.
@Vaeternus said:
I honestly don't know, Ozzy in the movie seemed almost super naturally strong, while Bane was durable as hell taking Batman's punches and catching his fists literally which isn't easy to do fighting Batman lol. So not sure, could go either way I think. Leaning Bane because of ferociousness. Good match.
So you dont think that Ozy would be smart enough to know what Banes weakness is, and despite Ozy's physical superiority over Bane, you think Bane can tag him and beat him?
I'll go with Ozymandias. His hits really connected. I'm sure he would figure out it's a breathing apparatus midway through the fight. He could hold his own pretty well against two experienced brawlers simultaneously without so much as a scratch.
Dont forget guys, Rorschach and Nightowl arent trash fighters. Night owl twisted a dudes arm so bad, his bone popped out of his arm. And we all so what Rorschach did in the movie. These guys were taking out common thugs just as effectively as Batman, so their not crappy fighters at all. To be honest about it, you can add Batman to the fight and Ozy could beat both of this guys in a hand to hand fight.
@rdskns4eva said:
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
Took the words right out of my mouth, and I don't say that often. Bravo to you sir.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
Ozymadias will trash Bane and Bats together.
Like @rdskns4eva: said he was fighting 2 well train h2h fighters the make movie Bats look slow and weak, without breaking a sweat and they din't even landed a punch or move the guy from the position he was fighting them.
Bane wont even land a punch.
@Floopay said:
@rdskns4eva said:
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
Took the words right out of my mouth, and I don't say that often. Bravo to you sir.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
All this stuff.
I'm going with Ozymandias on this one. He was just more impressive. Also could anyone explain to me Ozy's bullet catching feat? I thought I read that it wasn't entirely his reaction time that allowed him to catch the bullet but his ability to plot the bullet's path and whatnot in his head then act.
@rdskns4eva said:
@mrtrickster said:
@rdskns4eva said:he took a good-sized chunk out of concrete pillar, pretty sure that topped anything strength feat ozy had@mrtrickster said:
not sure about stronger though, bane punched through concreteBane didnt punch through concrete. he cracked concrete. Its not like he made a gaping hole
Ozy tossed a 220 pound man through a window. Bane didnt do anything even remotely close to that. Hell, the comedian was punching through the wall in his apartment. Granted it wasnt concrete, but it was still a wall. And again, he didnt take chunks out of anything. He cracked it. Impressive? Yes. Was that one feat better all the feats I listed for Ozy? No.
Besides, punching concrete and lifting Batman above his head, what else did Bane do that Ozy didnt do infinitely better? And pucnhing concrete really doesnt mean anything at the end of the day. Captain America didnt punch concrete, but everyone knows he is stronger than Bane. Bane is just a big guy who is high on pain killers. Thats it.
And Bane lifted Batman with one hand...what's your point? Comedian broke a weakass wall.Captain America has strength feats that justify him being stronger,he does'nt have to punch concrete cause ya know he's done other stuff unlike Ozzy.And what feats have you listed?
@entropy_aegis said:
@rdskns4eva said:
@mrtrickster said:
@rdskns4eva said:he took a good-sized chunk out of concrete pillar, pretty sure that topped anything strength feat ozy had@mrtrickster said:
not sure about stronger though, bane punched through concreteBane didnt punch through concrete. he cracked concrete. Its not like he made a gaping hole
Ozy tossed a 220 pound man through a window. Bane didnt do anything even remotely close to that. Hell, the comedian was punching through the wall in his apartment. Granted it wasnt concrete, but it was still a wall. And again, he didnt take chunks out of anything. He cracked it. Impressive? Yes. Was that one feat better all the feats I listed for Ozy? No.
Besides, punching concrete and lifting Batman above his head, what else did Bane do that Ozy didnt do infinitely better? And pucnhing concrete really doesnt mean anything at the end of the day. Captain America didnt punch concrete, but everyone knows he is stronger than Bane. Bane is just a big guy who is high on pain killers. Thats it.
And Bane lifted Batman with one hand...what's your point? Comedian broke a weakass wall.Captain America has strength feats that justify him being stronger,he does'nt have to punch concrete cause ya know he's done other stuff unlike Ozzy.And what feats have you listed?
Check my first post for a list of his feats
@Mr_Ingenuity: @Floopay: Eh Im Jumping on the Bane Train as he been fighting odds like 20 gangbanging Thugs off in the pit and still lived. He train by Rhaz like Batman was. He was also clearly as old (if not Older) than Batman yet he was Physicaly superior and overpowering. He only Lost due to the Breathing Appaatus which is the reason he was beaten by Batman a Second time.
Bane can fight easily in Blackness
Had all the Skill of Batman
Stronger than Batman by puching thru his armour and Shattering Concrete.
He was Brillaint as well in control of his mercs and bringing down the city.
His aggressive style was too much as well.
Durable as hell tanking anything batman hit him with.
Honestly his feats are more establish as we know Batman Skill from previous 2 movies vs Ozy beating 3 not well establish fighters.
So Yeah Im on the Bane Train. Chooo choooo. lol.
@CadenceV2 said:
Honestly his feats are more establish as we know Batman Skill from previous 2 movies vs Ozy beating 3 not well establish fighters.
Silk Spectre II by herself might beat down Bane. Next to Ozy, she had the best super-strength feats in Watchmen, and was a comparable fighter to Nite Owl.
Ozy wrecks Bane without breaking a sweat. Look at how casually he beat Rorschach and Nite Owl.
WTF? People are picking Bane over Movie Ozymandias?
I suggest you people watch Watchmen again.
Rorschach, Nite Owl was beating multiple men with little to no effort. Showing supernatural reaction time and fighting abilities.
And Ozymandias solo'ed them. He fought them with no effort at all.
Ozymandias with no effort at all.
@CadenceV2 said:
@Mr_Ingenuity: @Floopay: Eh Im Jumping on the Bane Train as he been fighting odds like 20 gangbanging Thugs off in the pit and still lived. He train by Rhaz like Batman was. He was also clearly as old (if not Older) than Batman yet he was Physicaly superior and overpowering. He only Lost due to the Breathing Appaatus which is the reason he was beaten by Batman a Second time.
Bane can fight easily in Blackness
Had all the Skill of Batman
Stronger than Batman by puching thru his armour and Shattering Concrete.
He was Brillaint as well in control of his mercs and bringing down the city.
His aggressive style was too much as well.
Durable as hell tanking anything batman hit him with.
Honestly his feats are more establish as we know Batman Skill from previous 2 movies vs Ozy beating 3 not well establish fighters.
So Yeah Im on the Bane Train. Chooo choooo. lol.
Bane can fight easily in Blackness. What does this prove? Ozy can block attacks without looking at them or facing his opponent.
Had all the Skill of Batman Really? Looked like he was just brawling to me. And if we are going by skill, Ozy outclasses everyone in the Nolanverse.
Stronger than Batman by puching thru his armour and Shattering Concrete. Stronger than batman isnt saying much. Movie Batman is pretty weak. And he did not shatter concrete. Go back and watch the movie. He cracked it.
He was Brillaint as well in control of his mercs and bringing down the city. Or was it Talia that was in control of the city?
His aggressive style was too much as well. Too much for who? Batman?
Durable as hell tanking anything batman hit him with. Yes, but that has more to do with his pain killers. But I'll give you this one. He showed good durability against an old washed up Batman. The only guy who even remotely challeneged him. Everyone else Bane beat/killed was either a cop, a banker, a security guard or an executive. Not a lot of combat feats for Bane here. Except for beating up 40 year old Bruce Wayne, who had a busted leg.
Honestly his feats are more establish as we know Batman Skill from previous 2 movies vs Ozy beating 3 not well establish fighters. But this isnt a Batman vs Ozy fight. Its Bane vs Ozy. We have 1 movie showcasing Banes feats just as we have 1 showcasing Ozys feats.
So Yeah Im on the Bane Train. Chooo choooo. lol.
C'mon man really? Did you even watch Watchmen?
@rdskns4eva said:
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
exactly
@rdskns4eva said:
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
This.
@rdskns4eva said:
@Vaeternus said:
I honestly don't know, Ozzy in the movie seemed almost super naturally strong, while Bane was durable as hell taking Batman's punches and catching his fists literally which isn't easy to do fighting Batman lol. So not sure, could go either way I think. Leaning Bane because of ferociousness. Good match.
So you dont think that Ozy would be smart enough to know what Banes weakness is, and despite Ozy's physical superiority over Bane, you think Bane can tag him and beat him?
Well, I said I wasn't sure but you figure Bane's mask is also a weakpoint for him. Once Batman broke it, Bane was getting his butt kicked bigtime...
I definitely think Ozy's physically superior and more nimble and probably faster, Bane just seemed very durable.
@rdskns4eva said:
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
Absolutely Right. I saw both movies and Ozy takes this hands down.
@rdskns4eva said:
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
They are both intelligent, although Ozymandias is smarter by a slim margin, that is made up by Bane's superior physique. Their fighting skills are probably stalemated, but the Watchmen series was more realistic than Nolan's Batman series(minus Dr.Manhatten), making the characters weaker. Bane wins in a tough battle, and may break Ozymandias' back.
No, this is wrong on SOOO many levels.
1. Watchmen the movie is more comic bookey than Nolans Batman.
2. Ozymandias was physically superior to Bane in EVERY WAY. He is more comparable to Captain America in his movies. He is physcally stronger than Bane, thought not as physically imposing. Ozy was hitting people and they were flying into walls. FLYING. He tossed Rorschach 20 feet across a room, crashing him into a wall. He kicked Nightowl a good 10 feet across a room while Nightowl was in midair doing a kick. He picked up the Comedian and threw him 10 feet across his apartment. He picked up the comedian with no effort at all and threw the Comdedian threw a Glass Window.
3. Ozy displayed WAY more fightng skill than Bane. Bane was portrayed mostly as a brawler. Sure he had skill, but nothing on the level on Ozy who was blocking rorschachs attacks without even looking at the attacks.
4. His reflexes were insanely superior to Bane's. He caught a bullet at point blank range, he caught a knife that the Comedian threw at him. No comparison here at all.
5. Ozy was way smarter. Assuming that it was Banes plan to take over Gotham (highly debatable), it was Ozy's plan to trick the entire world and he outsmarted Dr. Manhattan.
6. Ozy took two steps and leaped about 20 feet across the room.
Ozy is another a whole nother level from Bane. Bane vs Ozy is pretty much the same as Bane vs Captain America. Movie Bane cant beat either.
I got to agree with this. Came in here to say something similar but not as good.
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