Avengers vs Justice League 5v5

- Avengers are consisted of

1) Iron Man

2) Hulk

3) Sentry

4) Hyperion

5) Thor

- Justice League is consisted of

1) Aquaman

2) Hal Jordan

3) Batman

4) Wonder Woman

5) Superman

- Both sides have 3 days prep, during prep Hulk is turned back into Bruce Banner

- Special additions to prep: Thor isn't allowed to get Destroyer Armor, all other equipment is available including Insider suit, bleeding edge armor, belt of strength etc, they can use prep to modify surroundings to their advantage

- Battle location is in Belgrade Serbia

- Morals are off, win is by death or KO, Marvel versions are current, Justice League is pre Flashpoint, but you can use feats of current versions

- Who wins and why?

Which sentry? Why not swap Aquaman for Flash because this looks like a stomp for Avengers considering none of DC have prep on Ironman and Bruce banner levels.

Thor can still get Odin force or norn stones or rune stones, hulk becomes World breaker, Sentry becomes Void. Even if Supes sun dips he isnts beating Void.

There is no possibility to use feats from current DC, because these are different character.

Pre 52:

No one from Team 1 has nanosecond reaction speed.

New 52:

Team 1. Superman and WW are fast, but I don't recall measurable feats in microsecond level, while Sentry and Thor has ones.

This is different. A Justice League Vs. Avengers battle where the Avengers stand a legitimate chance to come out on top. It's not even really a mis-match because a good case could be made for either team. Well done sir.

As for my opinion.... The Avengers have to many heavy hitters in the prep area. That, plus heaving the big guns in general.... i mean Sentry's one of those guys that makes powers up on the fly..... he's arguably the strongest non-celestial in Marvel and is said to have once fought Galactus to a standstill. That's without him voiding out. Add to that the Hulk, Hyperion, and Thor..... yeah this is one of those rare Avengers V JL fights where I can honestly go with the Avengers.

That being said, if Superman sundips for 3 Days the Avengers are gonna be in for a world of hurt............

Morals off Superman dips and solo's.

Why is Batman here?

Really? Four powerhouses + Iron Man vs 1 powerhouse, a guy who could get his constructs destroyed by 4 members of the other team, a prep guy who's not even 5 tons, WW and Aquaman who are less strong than every members on the other team except IM?

You clearly hate DC.

I personally consider him to be bigger threat than Iron Man and that he can take down Hulk with prep. JLA robots, Insider suit + Boom tube shouldn't be underestimated.

Superman can sundip here, WW could bring Olympian weapons including Hephestus sword which can cut through molecules. With her super speed she can slice Hulk into pieces. It's not spite or mismatch.

Normal Sentry, dunno.

Who in the JL has changed so drastically that their feats can't be translated?

At least Superman and Aquaman. Pre-52 Superman had greater electricity resistance, current one can be one-shotted by lightning (and not even magic lightning). Yet, New-52 Supe has greater strength feat than Pre-52 one had.

There is no debate about it - they are two different characters.

Not...really....Pre-52 Superman once had trouble moving the moon with help and next thing he's towing something that's many times larger than the sun.

We take the greater one of each, that's what a feat is. There isn't such a thing as a negative feat.

GL and batman are relatively unchanged in new 52 as per Geoff Johns, or whatever his name is...just clarifying

1.I am not even going to answer this. Pre-52 Superman is barely moon level.

2.No. If feats counts, stats also has to count. Going by that, JLA will go down to lightnings.

Ironman gets his thor buster suit on, Banner does something to make Hulk go World Breaker, Thor gets the OF, Sentry is Death Seed and then we have Hyperion.

I think the Avengers would win in a good fight.

lol lightning is not beating GL's or any of the JL team. oh brother.

avengers win, batman is a non factor. even though the powerhouses have been rectonned to be stronger, thor and thor buster ironman and sentry are still too much

The Thorbuster only works on Thor. Unless Thor is planing to kill his father I don't see Odin just giving him the Odin Force

@czarny_samael666:

1.

2. No idea what this is supposed to mean. "If feats count, stats count"? What are you talking about? And what are "Lightnings"?

Aveners win. Thor is still allowed Odinforce

@dondave: Odin has given all the Odinforce left in him to Thor by enchanting the weapons to fight Thanosi. This is also a needed situation, plus its his dad

Avengers beat the Justice League for once.

After Mangog defeated him three times and the Thanosi had received an amp, it's not like every time Thor goes into battle Odin powers him up.

@dondave: Superman doesnt sun-dip every-time but for prep he can, same situation here. If Odin cares about his son (which he does) then he would help by temporarily giving him the Odinforce

@sheenlantern:

1.a)Not done alone.b)out of context.c)I can put You in shadow without being bigger than sun.

2.Lightnings took them down in JLA when they've met Aquaman's brother.

I assume You didn't read JLA issue in which Aquaman's brother took down WW, Superman, Batman and Aquaman in the same time through weather control?

and im assuming you havnt read every other comic involving GL post crisis.

Some, but for sure not all. GL wasn't around when they fought with Atlantis.

@czarny_samael666:

a)Not done alone.

No sh*t Sherlock, I said that myself earlier.

"Pre-52 Superman once had trouble moving the moon with help and next thing he's towing something that's many times larger than the sun."

b)out of context.

Alright then, the context is that Supes was captured and is being forced to turn the wheels of Megaddon in order to move its body. Satisfied?

I can put You in shadow without being bigger than sun.

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"I can put you in shadow without being bigger than sun."

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Look dude, if you're drunk or something we can have this discussion another time, that's fine by me.

Avengers beat the JL for once.

1.Ergo it is useless.

2.Of course not.

3.Of course I am not. This being wasn't bigger than sun or planet. There is no sign of that in this scan.

@czarny_samael666:

1.Ergo it is useless.

I can't believe I have to explain this to you...

I'M USING IT TO EMPHASIS HOW MUCH POWER FLUCTUATES, BY CITING A REALLY UNIMPRESSIVE FEAT AND A REALLY IMPRESSIVE ONE.

2.Of course not.

And why not?

3.Of course I am not. This being wasn't bigger than sun or planet. There is no sign of that in this scan.

Oh, so you're blind as well?

Battle location is in Belgrade Serbia ? :D Dosao bih ja da pomognem Avendzersima bar Betmena da ubijem :D

The avenegrs look like they could take a majority here...with sentry becoming Void and a no morals Thor going into Warrior Madness. Plus the prep skill of Banner and Stark.....the Avengers should win

hahahah da, nisam se dosad setio da pravim u Beogradu :D

Whats Aquaman doing here?

Especially since there's 4 flyers on Avengers.

And WHAT THE HELL IS BATMAN DOING HERE?

ogod.

@bigcimmerian: LMAO i know you love thor and i think youve said batman is one of your favorite characters so you should know that batman shouldnt be on this battle. dont be silly, cmon man

@sheenlantern: It's not sun, it's part of him, like eye or something lol. DC wikipedia states that Mageddon is shown to be bigger than Earth and Moon, not sun.

lol why shouldn't he be? Sure he's no match for Hyperion, Thor and Sentry, but he's good tactician and commander, and I already said he can bring JLA robots, Insider suit and boomtube. What stops him from coming behind Hulk or Iron Man while invisible and then boom tubing them?

cause he's a regular human. while you give him the ability to bring certain weapons he's still a human that can be ONE shotted by anybody on the avengers team. you know that.

Iron Man is regular human too :P

facepalm

The anti-sun? It's Megaddon's weapon. Galaxy-level, I think.

DC wikipedia states that Mageddon is shown to be bigger than Earth and Moon, not sun.

Better go fix it, then.

A morals off Wonder Woman with the Gauntlet of Atlas and Sandals of Hermes is something I'd really like to see. Plus her sword and armor. She can also pick up her dome.

I see Batman as sort of a non factor. He has nothing to put him anywhere near the level of anyone else here.
Iron Man will also be the first down on his team.

Good fight.

Avengers.

I'd say "this" line of Avengers take this one more often than not

You said that Mageddon is bigger than sun and you've shown us the scan in which something looking like sun is dwarfed by Mageddon. I think it's not the sun, it's part of him. I'm not sure about this cause I didn't read Mageddon story arc.

We're talking about the same thing, right? The big yellow ball of fire in the foreground? That's the anti-sun.

Yes, you said it is sun. Is it big as normal sun?