Avengers vs Guardians of the Galaxy

• No BFR
• Win by KO/Death
• Teams start 500 meters from each other.
• All charecters current (or latest) version
• standard gear
• No PREP but teams get 1 min for tactics
• Both teams want to win this fight (BAD)
• No mind control/attack

Avengers

• Thor
• Iron man
• Ms Marvel
• Rulk
• Cap-A
• Black Panther
• Hawkeye
• Iron fist
• Spider woman
• Val

GOTF

• Adam Warlock
• Drax (2 Adamantium knives)
• Gamora (God-slayer sword)
• Phyla-vell (quantum bands)
• Starlord
• Rocket Raccon
• Vance
• Groot
• Mantis
• Moondragon

Location

Colosseum on planet Sakaar

With the avengers now having just about every marvel person on the team they win after a good fight.

Guardians should win. I don't think the Avengers have a good enough answer for Adam Warlock. Throw in Phyla with the Quantum Bands, and you have a problem. Most of the rest of the Guardians are just as good hand to hand or better than those on the Avengers. Plus, you have Moondragon and Mantis, and I don't think any of those Avengers have an answer to telepaths at that level.

Avengers. I don't see how they could take out Thor.

EDIT: Also hasn't Iron Man already defeated Phyla?

I thought this was going to be a what movie will do better in the ratings battle. I have no knowledge on the GotG so my vote goes towards Avengers.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Avengers. I don't see how they could take out Thor.

Moondragon has mind controlled him before.

@jloneblackheart said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Avengers. I don't see how they could take out Thor.

Moondragon has mind controlled him before.

Thor has resisted Moondragon's telepathy even when she was amped with the Mind Gem:

@venomoushatred1001: Wasn't that during Blood and Thunder? Current Thor isn't in that state.

Moondragon is probably the main factor of GotG. She could easily +1 member to the GotG (matters which one of course). I am definitely not a Mantis expert but empathy really would work well here. Adam easily takes out Iron Man and everyone from Captain A under on your list. Valkyrie would be tough but not too tough. Vance is a factor as well.

They just got to worry about Thor truthfully. Im sure that once they take him out, they win. GotG has a widespread of abilities per character. They should win.

how many people have protection against telepathy on avengers team?

telepaths could win this for the guardians

@jloneblackheart said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Avengers. I don't see how they could take out Thor.

Moondragon has mind controlled him before.

Are you talking about this?

@jashro44: nice scans. So Moon-dragon wasn't always lesbian?

@Nearl: @ThatThorFan: @jloneblackheart:

i changed the the OP as i personally dont think GOTG need mindrape to win here. Guardians have enough raw power and skills to challenge the Avengers.

• Adam vs Thor
• Drax vs Rulk
• Phylla vs Ms Marvel
• Gamora vs Ironman
• Quill vs Rogers
• Vance vs Panther
• Rocket vs Hawkeye
• Groot vs Valkyrie
• Mantis vs Ironfist
• MD vs Spiderwoman

Anybody who thinks current Thor stomps Adam dont know about Adam that well. Drax was unstoppable from the Annihilation to the point when Cancer-verse Thanos killed him. Phylla has the bloody Quantum Bands.

Even if Moondragon will be able to control Thor (she didn't do that in fight, so I highly doubt she will be able to repeat that here) - Iron Man is immune to telepathy and he would know that MD has to be taken out fast.  Similar thing about Mantis.
 
In theory Thor will go after Warlock and Ms. Marvel against Phylla. So Iron Man is free to take out telepaths (later he can help Carol).
Gamora vs. Valkyrie is good one, but I would go with Valkyrie personally.
Rulk will crush Groot. 
 
Street Levels from Avengres >>> Street Levels from GoG. Drax is their only big gun, but considering that IM will take MD and Mantis, there will be 5 Avengers against 4 GoG
+ Iron Man can turn on auto-tracking street levels (including Gamora) and fight with Phylla in the same time. 
When Rulk will come to fight with Phylla, she will go down. I don't remember Phylla doing some feats highly above Ms. Marvel's and Iron Man's. 
 
In theroy Thor can drain Adam's energy, even if he wouldn't, other Avengers will come to aid him fast. 
 
Avengers ftw.

@czarny_samael666 said:

Even if Moondragon will be able to control Thor (she didn't do that in fight, so I highly doubt she will be able to repeat that here) - Iron Man is immune to telepathy and he would know that MD has to be taken out fast. Similar thing about Mantis. In theory Thor will go after Warlock and Ms. Marvel against Phylla. So Iron Man is free to take out telepaths (later he can help Carol). Gamora vs. Valkyrie is good one, but I would go with Valkyrie personally. Rulk will crush Groot. Street Levels from Avengres >>> Street Levels from GoG. Drax is their only big gun, but considering that IM will take MD and Mantis, there will be 5 Avengers against 4 GoG + Iron Man can turn on auto-tracking street levels (including Gamora) and fight with Phylla in the same time. When Rulk will come to fight with Phylla, she will go down. I don't remember Phylla doing some feats highly above Ms. Marvel's and Iron Man's. In theroy Thor can drain Adam's energy, even if he wouldn't, other Avengers will come to aid him fast. Avengers ftw.

Thor has been mind controleld in the past, once by Moondragon whiich was the sex thing and I think a couple other times as well. I have to go look it up

The op says no mind rape.

@daak1212 said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Even if Moondragon will be able to control Thor (she didn't do that in fight, so I highly doubt she will be able to repeat that here) - Iron Man is immune to telepathy and he would know that MD has to be taken out fast. Similar thing about Mantis. In theory Thor will go after Warlock and Ms. Marvel against Phylla. So Iron Man is free to take out telepaths (later he can help Carol). Gamora vs. Valkyrie is good one, but I would go with Valkyrie personally. Rulk will crush Groot. Street Levels from Avengres >>> Street Levels from GoG. Drax is their only big gun, but considering that IM will take MD and Mantis, there will be 5 Avengers against 4 GoG + Iron Man can turn on auto-tracking street levels (including Gamora) and fight with Phylla in the same time. When Rulk will come to fight with Phylla, she will go down. I don't remember Phylla doing some feats highly above Ms. Marvel's and Iron Man's. In theroy Thor can drain Adam's energy, even if he wouldn't, other Avengers will come to aid him fast. Avengers ftw.

Thor has been mind controleld in the past, once by Moondragon whiich was the sex thing and I think a couple other times as well. I have to go look it up

Sex thing? lol

@czarny_samael666 said:

Even if Moondragon will be able to control Thor (she didn't do that in fight, so I highly doubt she will be able to repeat that here) - Iron Man is immune to telepathy and he would know that MD has to be taken out fast. Similar thing about Mantis. In theory Thor will go after Warlock and Ms. Marvel against Phylla. So Iron Man is free to take out telepaths (later he can help Carol). Gamora vs. Valkyrie is good one, but I would go with Valkyrie personally. Rulk will crush Groot. Street Levels from Avengres >>> Street Levels from GoG. Drax is their only big gun, but considering that IM will take MD and Mantis, there will be 5 Avengers against 4 GoG + Iron Man can turn on auto-tracking street levels (including Gamora) and fight with Phylla in the same time. When Rulk will come to fight with Phylla, she will go down. I don't remember Phylla doing some feats highly above Ms. Marvel's and Iron Man's. In theroy Thor can drain Adam's energy, even if he wouldn't, other Avengers will come to aid him fast. Avengers ftw.

Thor has been mind controleld in the past, once by Moondragon whiich was the sex thing and I think a couple other times as well. I have to go look it up

@czarny_samael666 said:

Even if Moondragon will be able to control Thor (she didn't do that in fight, so I highly doubt she will be able to repeat that here) - Iron Man is immune to telepathy and he would know that MD has to be taken out fast. Similar thing about Mantis.
In theory Thor will go after Warlock and Ms. Marvel against Phylla. So Iron Man is free to take out telepaths (later he can help Carol). Gamora vs. Valkyrie is good one, but I would go with Valkyrie personally. Rulk will crush Groot.
Street Levels from Avengres >>> Street Levels from GoG. Drax is their only big gun, but considering that IM will take MD and Mantis, there will be 5 Avengers against 4 GoG + Iron Man can turn on auto-tracking street levels (including Gamora) and fight with Phylla in the same time. When Rulk will come to fight with Phylla, she will go down. I don't remember Phylla doing some feats highly above Ms. Marvel's and Iron Man's. In theroy Thor can drain Adam's energy, even if he wouldn't, other Avengers will come to aid him fast. Avengers ftw.

nice post CS

Using TP is ok, but no mind attack

wow you really think Val is above Gamora? i thought she was the deadliest woman in the universe lol. Her fight with Ronan was impressive imo.

Also i thought Mantis was > Ironfist, Spiderwoman and Cap.......i found these on her site

Also Drax (with his knives) vs Rulk who do you got?

Avengers.

nice post CS

Using TP is ok, but no mind-rape

wow you really think Val is above Gamora? i thought she was the deadliest woman in the universe lol. Her fight with Ronan was impressive imo.

Also i thought Mantis was > Ironfist, Spiderwoman and Cap.......i found these on her site

Also Drax (with his knives) vs Rulk who do you got?

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Greendevil said:

nice post CS

Using TP is ok, but no mind-rape

wow you really think Val is above Gamora? i thought she was the deadliest woman in the universe lol. Her fight with Ronan was impressive imo.

Also i thought Mantis was > Ironfist, Spiderwoman and Cap.......i found these on her site

Also Drax (with his knives) vs Rulk who do you got?

Oh, I know that Mantis is great warrior (I've read that fight between Mantis and Avengersm it was huge PIS. For example, how can You take Wonder Man in this way, if he doesn't need to breath?). She could be better than Iron Fist, but look on others. Racoon <<< Hawkeye for sure. Drax vs. Iron Fist will be an intresting match, but Avengers have also Spider Woman (who isn't easy to be putted down by Street Levels) and two highly skilled fighters - Cap and Black Panther. But remember - point was that Iron Man will aim on Moondragon and Mantis from the start, since they have telepathy. So Racoon, Drax, SL and MAjor Vicotry vs. Iron Fist, Spider Woman, Hawkeye, Cap and BP?
Drax should lose,but I am not sure.He seems to be faster than Rulk, but I doubt that he can take Red Hulk fast enough.

• HAHAHAHA......... good point
• You forgot Starlord so its 5 vs 5, but i see your point
• So you think Rulk is the favorite, cool
• Also why do you feel Val is above Gamora? Id like to hear ;)

@jloneblackheart said:

@venomoushatred1001: Wasn't that during Blood and Thunder? Current Thor isn't in that state.

Current Thor possesses the same powers.

@NerdsFTW: i think blackheart is talking about Thors warrior madness. And Thor does not have it now.

@jloneblackheart said:

@venomoushatred1001: Wasn't that during Blood and Thunder? Current Thor isn't in that state.

Current Thor possesses the same powers.

@Greendevil said:

@NerdsFTW: i think blackheart is talking about Thors warrior madness. And Thor does not have it now.

That's what I meant.

@NerdsFTW: ok

@jloneblackheart said:

@NerdsFTW

@jloneblackheart said:

@venomoushatred1001: Wasn't that during Blood and Thunder? Current Thor isn't in that state.

Current Thor possesses the same powers.

Well he doesn't have the power gem like he did in blood and thunder

i dont think the power gem affects her TP. His WM does though.

Adam Warlock vs Thor (debatable, but Thor isn't going to be able to take out Warlock quickly, if at all)

Rocket Raccoon and Groot vs Iron Man (they have the firepower and the tactics, they can take him)

Phyla vs Ms Marvel (the real Captain Marvel has the Nega Bands and the Quantum Bands)

Moondragon vs Rulk (Moondragon strokes Rulk out, like Cosmo did to the Hulk of the Cancerverse)

Major Victory vs Captain America (Vance has everything Cap does... plus psychokinesis)

Mantis vs Black Panther AND Spider Woman (fighting ability plus telepathy, she punks them both out)

Starlord vs Hawkeye (because Starlord always finds a way)

Gamora vs Iron Fist (simple as this... Gamora FTW)

Drax vs Valkyrie (It will take more than Valkyrie has to put down Drax)

Guardians win

 @jloneblackheart said:

Adam Warlock vs Thor (debatable, but Thor isn't going to be able to take out Warlock quickly, if at all)

Rocket Raccoon and Groot vs Iron Man (they have the firepower and the tactics, they can take him)

Phyla vs Ms Marvel (the real Captain Marvel has the Nega Bands and the Quantum Bands)

Moondragon vs Rulk (Moondragon strokes Rulk out, like Cosmo did to the Hulk of the Cancerverse)

Major Victory vs Captain America (Vance has everything Cap does... plus psychokinesis)

Mantis vs Black Panther AND Spider Woman (fighting ability plus telepathy, she punks them both out)

Starlord vs Hawkeye (because Starlord always finds a way)

Gamora vs Iron Fist (simple as this... Gamora FTW)

Drax vs Valkyrie (It will take more than Valkyrie has to put down Drax)

Guardians win

@czarny_samael666 said:

So Racoon, Drax, SL and MAjor Vicotry vs. Iron Fist, Spider Woman, Hawkeye, Cap and BP?

• You forgot Starlord so its 5 vs 5, but i see your point
• Also why do you feel Val is above Gamora? Id like to hear ;)

Avengers

GotG, Adam Warlock is definitely powerful enough to defeat Thor

@czarny_samael666 I doubt it will be one on one forever, but that's how it will start. Your assuming the rest are just going to let Iron Man defeat Moondragon and Mantis. Phyla, Drax, or Gamora could take on or possible defeat Rulk if necessary, at least keep him busy. I also already said who is taking out Iron Man.

@czarny_samael666: Phyla has the same powers as Ms. Marvel plus the Quantum Bands. It won't be a long fight.

Rocket Raccoon has very high tech weaponry. They have space tech, which for the most part is on par with or beyond anything on Earth. He's also a tactical genius. Even if Tony beats them (Rocket and Groot have to work together as Rocket can't move most of his equipment on his own), it's going to take some time. He will definitely be preoccupied. All the while, Starlord and Mantis should have little problem with their targets and be able to get freed up to assist other teammates. Most likely Iron Man, since the others shouldn't be having too much trouble.

Moondragon can literally take out Rulk in seconds anyway with the right motive (OP Both teams want to win this fight (BAD)). Cap vs Vance might be a stalemate as well as Drax vs Valkyrie, but I see more Guardians getting free before Avengers to assist. Gamora and Iron Fist might be a long battle, the difference is Gamora can heal.

I think Adam Warlock can beat Thor on his own, but I have limited knowledge of Thor besides when he has crossed over into the cosmic scene. Your battle hinges on Iron Man being able to easily defeat almost anyone on the Guardians, which I don't believe to be true. Several members would give Iron Man a run for his money, win or lose.

@czarny_samael666: Phyla has the same powers as Ms. Marvel plus the Quantum Bands. It won't be a long fight.

Rocket Raccoon has very high tech weaponry. They have space tech, which for the most part is on par with or beyond anything on Earth. He's also a tactical genius. Even if Tony beats them (Rocket and Groot have to work together as Rocket can't move most of his equipment on his own), it's going to take some time. He will definitely be preoccupied. All the while, Starlord and Mantis should have little problem with their targets and be able to get freed up to assist other teammates. Most likely Iron Man, since the others shouldn't be having too much trouble.

Moondragon can literally take out Rulk in seconds anyway with the right motive (OP Both teams want to win this fight (BAD)). Cap vs Vance might be a stalemate as well as Drax vs Valkyrie, but I see more Guardians getting free before Avengers to assist. Gamora and Iron Fist might be a long battle, the difference is Gamora can heal.

I think Adam Warlock can beat Thor on his own, but I have limited knowledge of Thor besides when he has crossed over into the cosmic scene. Your battle hinges on Iron Man being able to easily defeat almost anyone on the Guardians, which I don't believe to be true. Several members would give Iron Man a run for his money, win or lose.

2.Racoon didn't show any weapon that would be greater than what Iron Man has. And he isn't fast enough, nor he can fly to stand in Iron Man's way to Mantis and Moondragon. Plus even if he will slow down Tony, he won't slow down his weapons, since Stark doesn't need to fly on either of Guardians to take them out. Even if whole GoG, beside Phylla and Warlock will try stop Iron Man - they will fail. They have nothing on their side to put him down. And they to do it fast.

I doubt that it will go to one-on-one at all. Remember that Iron Man knows about Moondragon's and Mantis' TP. He will take them down fast. And without them (considering that Thor keeps Warlock), GoG has nothing on Rulk nor Iron Man.

@czarny_samael666: Doesn't sound like there is any reason to debate since you seem to think Iron Man can take out the whole team.

@czarny_samael666: Doesn't sound like there is any reason to debate since you seem to think Iron Man can take out the whole team.

@czarny_samael666 said: 

I doubt that it will go to one-on-one at all. Remember that Iron Man knows about Moondragon's and Mantis' TP. He will take them down fast. And without them (considering that Thor keeps Warlock), GoG has nothing on Rulk nor Iron Man.

Does Iron Man have a defense for TP? Also isn't Moondragon a powerful user of TK?

@czarny_samael666 said: 

2.Racoon didn't show any weapon that would be greater than what Iron Man has. And he isn't fast enough, nor he can fly to stand in Iron Man's way to Mantis and Moondragon. Plus even if he will slow down Tony, he won't slow down his weapons, since Stark doesn't need to fly on either of Guardians to take them out. Even if whole GoG, beside Phylla and Warlock will try stop Iron Man - they will fail. They have nothing on their side to put him down. And they to do it fast.

Didn't Rocket Raccon have a canon that dropped Gladiator in one use?

He is immune to telepathy.

Well, last issues of Invincible Iron Man prove that no, he isn't. And Moondragon is a powerful telepath. Of course his mind is more code than synapses now, but anyway..

Adam Warlock, IMO, can find a way to neutralize Thor - there was time, when I scoured Annihilation: Conquest and GotG, collecting his feats, and resulting list was mighty impressive.

@czarny_samael666: Well, Mandarin claimed that he influenced Stark from very Fear Itself and slowly orchestrated all this "depower". So, if we assume that he isn't lying (and, since he was openly gloating in full evil-genius-mode, that is unlikely), then even Bleeding Edge armor is not 100% TP-immune

(sorry, I've reached post-limit. Again =__=)

He is immune to telepathy.

Well, last issues of Invincible Iron Man prove that no, he isn't. And Moondragon is a powerful telepath. Of course his mind is more code than synapses now, but anyway..

Adam Warlock, IMO, can find a way to neutralize Thor - there was time, when I scoured Annihilation: Conquest and GotG, collecting his feats, and resulting list was mighty impressive.

In an issue of Avengers (where Hood is gatehring the infinite gems) Iron Man's suit had psychic dampeners to prevent Professor X from reading his mind, so unless that's changed he should be immune to telepathy so long as his helmet stays on. If Thor and Hulk gang up on Warlock, is it possible for Red Hulk to absorb Warlock's power? If he can that definately can swing this fight.

@GraniteSoldier said:

is it possible for Red Hulk to absorb Warlock's power?

Well, even if we assume that Rulk will use his absorbtion power (which he almost never used since his days as horrible villain-sue), Warlock battled Vulcan, and his energy manipulation are leagues above Rulks. So even if Ross soaks Warlocks quantum energies, Adam has impressive reserves and actually can recharge himself - quite possibly with Thors help.

And I'll repeat about Iron Man, just to be sure:

@czarny_samael666: Well, Mandarin claimed that he influenced Stark from very Fear Itself and slowly orchestrated all this "depower". So, if we assume that he isn't lying (and, since he was openly gloating in full evil-genius-mode, that is unlikely), then even Bleeding Edge armor is not 100% TP-immune

This 5-post per day limit is really annoying >.<

Lol, how can Guardians of Manhatten defeat Guardians of Galaxies?

@czarny_samael666: Well, Mandarin claimed that he influenced Stark from very Fear Itself and slowly orchestrated all this "depower". So, if we assume that he isn't lying (and, since he was openly gloating in full evil-genius-mode, that is unlikely), then even Bleeding Edge armor is not 100% TP-immune

This 5-post per day limit is really annoying >.<

Guardians of Galaxy wins... I think that Drax can find a way to defeat Rulk: he has killed Thanos so I think that Rulk won't be a problem for him. Gamora has got better martial skills than anyone in the Avengers team, she's The Most Dangerous Woman in the Universe, there's nothing that Valkirie, SpiderWoman or iron Fist can do against her. The same can be said for Mantis, that has beaten Thor and WonderMan using only her abilities, and she's also a telepath, a precog, a pirokinetic and a biopath.

Warlock can take down Thor. He'll need time but he can take down him. Iron Man won't be a problem: Phyla can defeat him - she's got Ms.Marvel's powers plus Quasar's powers, so she can take down both Iron Man and Ms.Marvel. Moondragon is one of the most powerful telepath in MU and with Mantis to help her she can take down most of the Avengers.

And the Guardians has also Groot - that can also regenerate himself and he's a genius -, Starlord and Rocket Racoon, and those three can take down a lot of Avengers.

@czarny_samael666 said:

P.S.Did You've answered me, after You edited Your post? Because I didn't have any sing about it in my inbox.

Yes, I keep smashing my head into anti-flood protection right now, so I got a little creative here...

Kinda funny how everyone just discarded guys like Iron Fist and Hawkeye, considering that Rand actually has a chance of punching through Warlocks wards. I don't really know much about Mantis, despite that she was there entire GotG-time, but as she put it down herself in Conquest: "This is the time where Ultron teleports here and hits me".

@czarny_samael666 said:

P.S.Did You've answered me, after You edited Your post? Because I didn't have any sing about it in my inbox.

Yes, I keep smashing my head into anti-flood protection right now, so I got a little creative here...

Kinda funny how everyone just discarded guys like Iron Fist and Hawkeye, considering that Rand actually has a chance of punching through Warlocks wards. I don't really know much about Mantis, despite that she was there entire GotG-time, but as she put it down herself in Conquest: "This is the time where Ultron teleports here and hits me".

Guardians of Galaxy wins... I think that Drax can find a way to defeat Rulk: he has killed Thanos so I think that Rulk won't be a problem for him. Gamora has got better martial skills than anyone in the Avengers team, she's The Most Dangerous Woman in the Universe, there's nothing that Valkirie, SpiderWoman or iron Fist can do against her. The same can be said for Mantis, that has beaten Thor and WonderMan using only her abilities, and she's also a telepath, a precog, a pirokinetic and a biopath.

Warlock can take down Thor. He'll need time but he can take down him. Iron Man won't be a problem: Phyla can defeat him - she's got Ms.Marvel's powers plus Quasar's powers, so she can take down both Iron Man and Ms.Marvel. Moondragon is one of the most powerful telepath in MU and with Mantis to help her she can take down most of the Avengers.

And the Guardians has also Groot - that can also regenerate himself and he's a genius -, Starlord and Rocket Racoon, and those three can take down a lot of Avengers.

@czarny_samael666 said:

2.I disagree. How she is above Valkyrie, she Brunhillde has thousands of years experience with using Dragonfang?
4.How Phylla can take Ms. MArvel and Iron Man in the same time? What feats does she have that can support that?
5.Racoon and Star Lord can't take even one Avenger. Maybe together they will be able to take out Barton. Maybe.

2. Well, Gamora is kinda brutal and amoral assasin. With healing factor. I belive it can compensate comparative lack of experience. They are pretty much equal.

4. Quantum Bands allow her to use versatile constructs. She took out several Phalanx Selects and Super-Adaptoid with them during Conquest - and then her power was limited by shield over all Kree space.

5. I would say most likely. Star Lord is basically just a guy with a gun here, and together with Rocky they're packing a lot of heat, enough to keep Barton pinned.

Though I really don't know why there is "No mindrape" rule, that basically cripples all Moondragon power (unless that is more literal mindrape, kinda like one Emma was about to use on Thor...) Because if TP is on, Stark will suddenly find himself busy surviving angry Red Hulk...

@czarny_samael666 said:

4.How Phylla can take Ms. MArvel and Iron Man in the same time? What feats does she have that can support that?
5.Racoon and Star Lord can't take even one Avenger. Maybe together they will be able to take out Barton. Maybe.

4. Quantum Bands allow her to use versatile constructs. She took out several Phalanx Selects and Super-Adaptoid with them during Conquest - and then her power was limited by shield over all Kree space.

5. I would say most likely. Star Lord is basically just a guy with a gun here, and together with Rocky they're packing a lot of heat, enough to keep Barton pinned.

Though I really don't know why there is "No mindrape" rule, that basically cripples all Moondragon power (unless that is more literal mindrape, kinda like one Emma was about to use on Thor...) Because if TP is on, Stark will suddenly find himself busy surviving angry Red Hulk...

@czarny_samael666 said:

5.Stark will take her out, before any of his teammates will start to fight him. Besides, he would have to allow Hulk to fight with him.

I think the distance here will play in her favor - Moondragons TP has almost planetary range, and I never saw any sniping feats from Bleeding Edge armor...

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Greendevil said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

So Racoon, Drax, SL and MAjor Vicotry vs. Iron Fist, Spider Woman, Hawkeye, Cap and BP?

• You forgot Starlord so its 5 vs 5, but i see your point
• Also why do you feel Val is above Gamora? Id like to hear ;)

2.? I've said Racoon, Drax, SL and Major Victory 4.Valkyrie is just stronger and more durable. Other things seems to be equal, like skills, swords, speed, experience...

hahahah.....i guess we have better weed here than i thought ;)