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#1  Edited By teamextrodinary15

Aang ( can only use Airbending and cannot go into the Avatar State)
Zuko 
Sokka( Has Sword and Boomerang)
 
 
vs 
 
Toph 
Katara( No Blood Bending also has her water pouch) 
Suki( Has Fans) 
 
Battle takes place here

 
 

Morals on 
Who wins?
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#2  Edited By FLCL1

team 2 rapes 
 
toph might solo
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#3  Edited By Cats

I'm going with team 2

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#4  Edited By sa5m
@FLCL1 said:
"team 2 rapes  toph might solo "

no way can toph solo 
 
team 2 still win
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#5  Edited By Ellocobruja

Does Sokka has his sword? 
Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue. 
 Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.  
 
Aang is the only thing holding the boys back
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#6  Edited By teamextrodinary15
@Ellocobruja:
Yes he has his sword its in the OP
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#7  Edited By ThaMessenger07

The Field may give Toph an Katara an advantage. 
 
I Say the boys still win Aang has shown to be a superior bender in his base Air Bending, he just plays around and prefers not to attack but his feats are untouched. Sokka is likely to stalemate Suki after his sword training. Zuko can take Katara as long as he is in a disciplined state of mind, which this battle would imply he is. The boys take this. Good Fight :D

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#8  Edited By Sherlock

Im curious is Aang only restricted for this or does he not have the knowledge of the other bending styles?
 
The dudes should take this if none are messing around
 
Aang already shown that he could hold his own against Bumi with only airbending and thats no small feat the way Aangs stye works Toph may be easier for him
Im gonna say Zuko is better than Katara since in their battle where they both beat each other Zuko won with much more ease than Katara did
 
 
Sokka and Suki is prolly stalemate

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#9  Edited By shonen2

Team 2 RAPES with new information that Aang cannot go avatar mode..

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#10  Edited By ThaMessenger07
@shonen2:  @Sherlock:
Aang can Air Bend he just cant bend any other element nor go into Avatar State.
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#11  Edited By shonen2
@ThaMessenger07 said:
" @shonen2:  @Sherlock: Aang can Air Bend he just cant bend any other element nor go into Avatar State. "
What are you talking about ?
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#12  Edited By ThaMessenger07
@shonen2:   
Sorry I accidentally Replied you. Still I don't see how they Rape. He is still a superior bender.
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#13  Edited By FLCL1
@Ellocobruja said:
"Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
there is so much wrong here 
he can cut through a 10 yard wide crystal going 40 miles per hour at him, he will mostlikely get crushed
@ThaMessenger07 said:
"The Field may give Toph an Katara an advantage.   I Say the boys still win Aang has shown to be a superior bender in his base Air Bending, he just plays around and prefers not to attack but his feats are untouched. Sokka is likely to stalemate Suki after his sword training. Zuko can take Katara as long as he is in a disciplined state of mind, which this battle would imply he is. The boys take this. Good Fight :D "
true however toph has shown superior earth bending, your point is? 
toph's feats are also defensive, she almost never gets touched, aang has been shown to have more problems with firebenders however he hasnt had much luck with good earth benders either 
sokka can beat suki with his new sword 

@Sherlock said:
"Im curious is Aang only restricted for this or does he not have the knowledge of the other bending styles?  The dudes should take this if none are messing around  Aang already shown that he could hold his own against Bumi with only airbending and thats no small feat the way Aangs stye works Toph may be easier for him Im gonna say Zuko is better than Katara since in their battle where they both beat each other Zuko won with much more ease than Katara did   Sokka and Suki is prolly stalemate "
toph>bumi 
toph can predict anyones movement so no this wont be an easy fight for aang 
if anything katara and zuko will stalemate or zuko will win in the long run, there is not proof that suggest he will get rid of her quickly. the toph vs aang fight would end much quicker
@sa5m said:
"@FLCL1 said:
"team 2 rapes  toph might solo "
no way can toph solo  team 2 still win "

yes she can. 
toph is the only master in the OP, also look at the place where they are fighting  
toph and katara solo toph has a good chance of going alone  
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#14  Edited By pooty

I remember Aang beating Toph with no problem at all in that little tournament she was winning. If Aang is attacking and not dodging Toph goes down quick. Sokka can occupy Suki while Aang and Zuko double team Katara.

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#15  Edited By FLCL1
@pooty said:
"I remember Aang beating Toph with no problem at all in that little tournament she was winning. If Aang is attacking and not dodging Toph goes down quick. Sokka can occupy Suki while Aang and Zuko double team Katara. "

current toph is stronger as shown in ba sing say 
there is no way he can beat her easy
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#16  Edited By sa5m
@FLCL1 said:
 
no way can toph solo  team 2 still win "
yes she can. toph is the only master in the OP, also look at the place where they are fighting  toph and katara solo toph has a good chance of going alone   "

No shes not, aang, zuko and katara are all masters to. zuko would take out toph burn her feet and shes done
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#17  Edited By Sherlock
@FLCL1 said:


"@FLCL1 said:
"team 2 rapes  toph might solo "
no way can toph solo  team 2 still win "
yes she can. toph is the only master in the OP, also look at the place where they are fighting  toph and katara solo toph has a good chance of going alone   "
No Shes not Aang is as well she is not soloing this
 
 
@Sherlock said:

"Im curious is Aang only restricted for this or does he not have the knowledge of the other bending styles?  The dudes should take this if none are messing around  Aang already shown that he could hold his own against Bumi with only airbending and thats no small feat the way Aangs stye works Toph may be easier for him Im gonna say Zuko is better than Katara since in their battle where they both beat each other Zuko won with much more ease than Katara did   Sokka and Suki is prolly stalemate "

toph>bumi 
toph can predict anyones movement so no this wont be an easy fight for aang 
if anything katara and zuko will stalemate or zuko will win in the long run, there is not proof that suggest he will get rid of her quickly. the toph vs aang fight would end much quicker
 
Again no Toph isnt more powerful than Bumi she does things that Bumi cant but the same is true otherwise
And she cant predict moves she sees them with her earthbending ans since Aang can be off the ground for long periods of time he should have no problem beating her without her even seeing it coming  
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#18  Edited By Fire Star

Team 2. Location wise is helpful to Katara and Toph is pretty much okay anywhere.
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#19  Edited By ThaMessenger07
@Sherlock:@FLCL1:
 Aang hasn't had trouble with benders as long as he uses offensive techniques. It is usually his lack of engaging that lets him get caught off guard. Aang can't Earth bend in this battle but he can still use the ground sensing technique that Toph taught him. Aang is also stronger as shown in most recent showings. Also I disagree with Toph > Bumi. She has a skill that is phenomenal and invented Metal Bending but she does not seem superior to Bumi's bending.
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#20  Edited By Sasuke

Team 2 thw local is in too much of there favor

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#21  Edited By FLCL1
@ThaMessenger07 said:
" @Sherlock:@FLCL1:  Aang hasn't had trouble with benders as long as he uses offensive techniques. It is usually his lack of engaging that lets him get caught off guard. Aang can't Earth bend in this battle but he can still use the ground sensing technique that Toph taught him. Aang is also stronger as shown in most recent showings. Also I disagree with Toph > Bumi. She has a skill that is phenomenal and invented Metal Bending but she does not seem superior to Bumi's bending. "

thats part of the plot 
by your logic aang can beat alzula using only air bending if he attacks head on 
toph uses the ground sense technique better than him, so i dont see how it matters 
toph is better than bumi and can win in a fight against him without metal bending. even if bumi has superior earth bending toph can read every single move he will make leaving him open for a counter attack. 
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#22  Edited By Cats
@Ellocobruja said:
" Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
 
 
Whats stopping toph, from bending sokka's sword?
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#23  Edited By cascadeking09
@Cats said:
" @Ellocobruja said:
" Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
  Whats stopping toph, from bending sokka's sword? "
Metal bending isn't easy for her. She's not Magneto either she has to touch it to bend it.
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#24  Edited By Cats
@cascadeking09 said:
" @Cats said:
" @Ellocobruja said:
" Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
  Whats stopping toph, from bending sokka's sword? "
Metal bending isn't easy for her. She's not Magneto either she has to touch it to bend it. "
Except sokka's sword is most made of space earth, which toph can easily bend.
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#25  Edited By cascadeking09
@Cats said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
" @Cats said:
" @Ellocobruja said:
" Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
  Whats stopping toph, from bending sokka's sword? "
Metal bending isn't easy for her. She's not Magneto either she has to touch it to bend it. "
Except sokka's sword is most made of space earth, which toph can easily bend. "
He molded the sword from a rock that dropped from space. I'm pretty sure it's a normal sword just black since it was molded from a space rock. It isn't made any different than a normal sword.
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#26  Edited By pooty
@FLCL1:  Aang is more powerful also. She can't sense Aangs movement once he's in the air. She goes down easy to Aang not because of skill but because he can take advantage of a handicap. Even Zuko can beat her. If he jumps in the air and firebends he can put her down. Toph can't beat what she can't feel on the ground. Sokka could even hit her with the boomerrang. Toph is powerful but is at a huge disadvantage when dealing with people who know her weakness.  And Bumi can bend without moving his feet or hands. No way Toph can beat him
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#27  Edited By FLCL1
@pooty said:
" @FLCL1:  Aang is more powerful also. She can't sense Aangs movement once he's in the air. She goes down easy to Aang not because of skill but because he can take advantage of a handicap. Even Zuko can beat her. If he jumps in the air and firebends he can put her down. Toph can't beat what she can't feel on the ground. Sokka could even hit her with the boomerrang. Toph is powerful but is at a huge disadvantage when dealing with people who know her weakness.  And Bumi can bend without moving his feet or hands. No way Toph can beat him "
without avatar state and the other 3 elements he's just a great airbender nothing else 
good point but she has already dealt with mid air projectiles in ba sing say, also its not in aangs character to stay in the air and attack or ruthlessless attack a little girl. also attacks from his glider isnt as effective as attacks from the ground, all toph has to do is surround herself with crystal rocks or make powerful armor
toph destroys zuko. 
sokka will be busy with his girlfriend. 
you talk as if toph doesnt know anything about aang but aang knows everything about toph. aang has already proven that he chokes under pressure and is to timid to launch huge knockout attacks 
toph has also been shown to do little earth bending without any big feet movement, but i will check up on that fact.  
@cascadeking09 said:
" @Cats said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
" @Cats said:
" @Ellocobruja said:
" Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
  Whats stopping toph, from bending sokka's sword? "
Metal bending isn't easy for her. She's not Magneto either she has to touch it to bend it. "
Except sokka's sword is most made of space earth, which toph can easily bend. "
He molded the sword from a rock that dropped from space. I'm pretty sure it's a normal sword just black since it was molded from a space rock. It isn't made any different than a normal sword. "

toph has already bent the metal easily 
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#28  Edited By ThaMessenger07
@FLCL1:  Problem with your logic is that yes Aang wins by plot but consistent enough to be clearly a better bender. It's not like he runs around having poor showings and then beats people he shouldn't he is just that skilled. She could read his foot steps but is not better then Bumi and I can't think of anything that proves otherwise. It does not matter if she does it better it is more defensive then offensive which if needed he can use it, not to mention the reason he won was because he didn't touch the ground and she couldn't feel it, which he could easily do again. Aang can beat Azula with just air bending he just has to be offensive. He hasn't lost a fight where he takes an offensive stance.
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#29  Edited By FLCL1
@ThaMessenger07 said:
" @FLCL1:  Problem with your logic is that yes Aang wins by plot but consistent enough to be clearly a better bender. It's not like he runs around having poor showings and then beats people he shouldn't he is just that skilled. She could read his foot steps but is not better then Bumi and I can't think of anything that proves otherwise. It does not matter if she does it better it is more defensive then offensive which if needed he can use it, not to mention the reason he won was because he didn't touch the ground and she couldn't feel it, which he could easily do again. Aang can beat Azula with just air bending he just has to be offensive. He hasn't lost a fight where he takes an offensive stance. "
i read this and realized that you have no idea what you are talking about 
 
azula has already bested aang muliple times yet you say aang can beat her if he went on the offensive? are you serious? aang has already did that to azula and failed. the sad part is, is that when that happened azula didnt have he powers. azula was dodging every attack easily. 
 
it doesnt matter who is better in this case because even if bumi is better there isnt a big difference between bumi and toph. there is nothing bumi can do get past toph's prediction methods or her great defense, not only that but bumi is very silly. in the end toph will win
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#30  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

depends if the guys take out toph first with zuko burning her feet right at the opening bell, then she really wont be able to do much aang can take out kataara and have and sokka face up against suki either way toph is done and zuko can tag team with one of the other guys, if that doesnt happen team 2 wins
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#31  Edited By ThaMessenger07
@FLCL1:  When did Aang go offensive on Azula? I remember Aang running and dodging every fight they had. You do know what being offensive is right? When they fought in the Cave he dodged her left and right tried a head on collision with her while surrounded by Diamonds or Crystals and at the last moment for whatever reason broke form. When he was in the Avatar state he wasn't even aware. Not to mention the conditions of this battle would make it see that it is set after the final battle and Aang just can't use the other Elements. On the drill he used Earth bending which he had recently been training in and was still on the Defensive mostly doing get back attacks. Have you not seen the things Aang has done with his Air bending. I don't see how he would loose if he actually fighting. 
 
Constantly saying Toph wins against Bumi with nothing but speculative statements is not convincing me. It is an opinionated matter so I will keep mine and you can keep yours.
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#32  Edited By cascadeking09
@FLCL1 said:
" @pooty said:
" @FLCL1:  Aang is more powerful also. She can't sense Aangs movement once he's in the air. She goes down easy to Aang not because of skill but because he can take advantage of a handicap. Even Zuko can beat her. If he jumps in the air and firebends he can put her down. Toph can't beat what she can't feel on the ground. Sokka could even hit her with the boomerrang. Toph is powerful but is at a huge disadvantage when dealing with people who know her weakness.  And Bumi can bend without moving his feet or hands. No way Toph can beat him "
without avatar state and the other 3 elements he's just a great airbender nothing else 
good point but she has already dealt with mid air projectiles in ba sing say, also its not in aangs character to stay in the air and attack or ruthlessless attack a little girl. also attacks from his glider isnt as effective as attacks from the ground, all toph has to do is surround herself with crystal rocks or make powerful armor
toph destroys zuko. 
sokka will be busy with his girlfriend. 
you talk as if toph doesnt know anything about aang but aang knows everything about toph. aang has already proven that he chokes under pressure and is to timid to launch huge knockout attacks 
toph has also been shown to do little earth bending without any big feet movement, but i will check up on that fact.  
@cascadeking09 said:
" @Cats said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
" @Cats said:
" @Ellocobruja said:
" Does Sokka has his sword? Because If Sokka does he can pretty much cut through anything Tough throws at him which is the issue.  Also Zuko has speed and ots of range.   Aang is the only thing holding the boys back "
  Whats stopping toph, from bending sokka's sword? "
Metal bending isn't easy for her. She's not Magneto either she has to touch it to bend it. "
Except sokka's sword is most made of space earth, which toph can easily bend. "
He molded the sword from a rock that dropped from space. I'm pretty sure it's a normal sword just black since it was molded from a space rock. It isn't made any different than a normal sword. "
toph has already bent the metal easily  "
Not without touching it. She's only bent the space rock. Im not sure if she would be able to bend it like she did the rock.
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#33  Edited By FLCL1
@cascadeking09:  
i think that was metal : /
@ThaMessenger07 said:
" @FLCL1:  When did Aang go offensive on Azula? I remember Aang running and dodging every fight they had. You do know what being offensive is right? When they fought in the Cave he dodged her left and right tried a head on collision with her while surrounded by Diamonds or Crystals and at the last moment for whatever reason broke form. When he was in the Avatar state he wasn't even aware. Not to mention the conditions of this battle would make it see that it is set after the final battle and Aang just can't use the other Elements. On the drill he used Earth bending which he had recently been training in and was still on the Defensive mostly doing get back attacks. Have you not seen the things Aang has done with his Air bending. I don't see how he would loose if he actually fighting.   Constantly saying Toph wins against Bumi with nothing but speculative statements is not convincing me. It is an opinionated matter so I will keep mine and you can keep yours. "

the episode with the solar eclipse when azula let them off track and aang was chasing her. he was trying to tag her with air attacks but azula was to fast and agile for him.considering aang was actually trying to pin her down with numerous attacks im going to guess that that is offensive. 
 
lol azula hit him and broke the crystal wth are you talking about? break form my a$$. also fyi that feat was an earth bending feat. 
 
i never metioned avatar state   
 
that statement in bold makes you sound like a fanboy. you glamorise aang with no good feats behind the post. 
 
i gave you reasons why toph can beat bumi, im not just posting "toph wins" 
your on a battle thread sir, someone has to be right and if both of us are on opposite sides then one of us is wrong 
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#34  Edited By Renee

The girls win. It would only take Katara and Toph to do it. Suki cheers them on with her fans.

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@Renee said:
"The girls win. It would only take Katara and Toph to do it. Suki cheers them on with her fans. "

Lol i can actually i can see her doing that
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#36  Edited By FLCL1
@Renee said:
"The girls win. It would only take Katara and Toph to do it. Suki cheers them on with her fans. "
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#37  Edited By Power NeXus

Team 2 owns

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#38  Edited By FLCL1
@Power NeXus said:
"Team 2 owns "

sup nexus
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#39  Edited By cascadeking09
@FLCL1 said:
" @cascadeking09:  
i think that was metal : / "
It was only space rock, Im sure.
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#40  Edited By cascadeking09

Im having trouble understanding y team 2 stomps. What's their huge advantage. None of the three of those girls could handle Aang. Katara would probably give Zuko the most trouble and he could probably handle her too. The most likely match up for Sokka would be against Suki and that's a pretty even match too. How do they stomp?

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#41  Edited By FLCL1
@cascadeking09 said:
"Im having trouble understanding y team 2 stomps. What's their huge advantage. None of the three of those girls could handle Aang. Katara would probably give Zuko the most trouble and he could probably handle her too. The most likely match up for Sokka would be against Suki and that's a pretty even match too. How do they stomp? "
the setting is the huge advantage. even if aang flys toph can rain crystal down on him 

toph can and has already proven so   

if anything the fight between katara and zuko would drag out until the fight between toph and aang is decided (because nethier one has proven that they can beat each other) 
 
i think sokka can beat suki in the long run
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I don't think sokka can beat suki......

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#43  Edited By cascadeking09
@FLCL1 said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
"Im having trouble understanding y team 2 stomps. What's their huge advantage. None of the three of those girls could handle Aang. Katara would probably give Zuko the most trouble and he could probably handle her too. The most likely match up for Sokka would be against Suki and that's a pretty even match too. How do they stomp? "
the setting is the huge advantage. even if aang flys toph can rain crystal down on him toph can and has already proven so   if anything the fight between katara and zuko would drag out until the fight between toph and aang is decided (because nethier one has proven that they can beat each other)  i think sokka can beat suki in the long run "
When did Toph and Aang fight? Ive only ever seen them spar and then in a tournament Aang faced her and knocked her out of the ring without even trying to win. And Im sure Aang could deflect the crystals with his air bending. I doubt toph would risk hitting her other teamates when she has no way of knowing exactly where in the air he is. And I agree that if Suki only has fans then Sokka wins for sure.
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#44  Edited By FLCL1
@cascadeking09 said:
" @FLCL1 said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
"Im having trouble understanding y team 2 stomps. What's their huge advantage. None of the three of those girls could handle Aang. Katara would probably give Zuko the most trouble and he could probably handle her too. The most likely match up for Sokka would be against Suki and that's a pretty even match too. How do they stomp? "
the setting is the huge advantage. even if aang flys toph can rain crystal down on him toph can and has already proven so   if anything the fight between katara and zuko would drag out until the fight between toph and aang is decided (because nethier one has proven that they can beat each other)  i think sokka can beat suki in the long run "
When did Toph and Aang fight? Ive only ever seen them spar and then in a tournament Aang faced her and knocked her out of the ring without even trying to win. And Im sure Aang could deflect the crystals with his air bending. I doubt toph would risk hitting her other teamates when she has no way of knowing exactly where in the air he is. And I agree that if Suki only has fans then Sokka wins for sure. "

that was it, however thats not what i was refering to. i was refering to her current feats. like her siege on the ba sing say castle she protected every single one of her teammates from ground attacks and projectiles, thats how good her defensive feats are. i dont see aang with morals and only air bending beating her on the ground, his only chance is flying and in a cave that isnt a good idea.   
 
toph know exactly where her teammates are so that wont be a problem. 
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#45  Edited By cascadeking09
@FLCL1 said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
" @FLCL1 said:
" @cascadeking09 said:
"Im having trouble understanding y team 2 stomps. What's their huge advantage. None of the three of those girls could handle Aang. Katara would probably give Zuko the most trouble and he could probably handle her too. The most likely match up for Sokka would be against Suki and that's a pretty even match too. How do they stomp? "
the setting is the huge advantage. even if aang flys toph can rain crystal down on him toph can and has already proven so   if anything the fight between katara and zuko would drag out until the fight between toph and aang is decided (because nethier one has proven that they can beat each other)  i think sokka can beat suki in the long run "
When did Toph and Aang fight? Ive only ever seen them spar and then in a tournament Aang faced her and knocked her out of the ring without even trying to win. And Im sure Aang could deflect the crystals with his air bending. I doubt toph would risk hitting her other teamates when she has no way of knowing exactly where in the air he is. And I agree that if Suki only has fans then Sokka wins for sure. "
that was it, however thats not what i was refering to. i was refering to her current feats. like her siege on the ba sing say castle she protected every single one of her teammates from ground attacks and projectiles, thats how good her defensive feats are. i dont see aang with morals and only air bending beating her on the ground, his only chance is flying and in a cave that isnt a good idea.    toph know exactly where her teammates are so that wont be a problem.  "
Unless she's covering a whole lot of area I don't see her hitting Aang from above. In order to cover enough to hit him she would have to risk hitting Katara and Suki. What exactly did she do in Ba sing se? I dont remember too much I'll have to go back and watch.
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#46  Edited By agent9149

The ladies got this

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#47  Edited By Jezer
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"team 2 rapes  toph might solo "

Incorrect. Airbending easily counters Toph's earthbending. 
 
Toph sees through the Earth. Thus, she naturally stands no chance against someone who can float(though temporarily) in air, 
and launch airbased attacks. The fact that she can't counter Airbending was either heavily implied or specifically stated in the show- if I remember correctly. 
 
There is literally no realistic chance that Toph can solo-- let alone beat Aang.
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@FLCL1:
That's because they were on the ground firing rock projectiles weren''t they?
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NEITHER TEAM WINS SINCE MORALS ARE ON!

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#50  Edited By Danny789

I think Katara is the real powerhouse here!!