Apocalypse vs. Storm.

I think Storm could do lots and lots of collateral damage but I doubt in either situation she'd be able to extinguish Apoc's life. He could hunker down and harden himself and survive.

I never considered her to be able to solo him but I don't know. She could definitely do some damage though.

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

" @Dane said:

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

HoM and AoA. I don't think they have actually fought in 616. "

"I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

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   In sixty seconds, in  a weakened state, he proved his dominance over an X-Men roster including Storm. This thread is a joke. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Dane said:

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

HoM and AoA. I don't think they have actually fought in 616. "

There's no reason that the same method wouldn't work but I thought he had fought him in an instance in 616, let me look through a few back issues. "

" @Dane said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Dane said:

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

HoM and AoA. I don't think they have actually fought in 616. "

There's no reason that the same method wouldn't work but I thought he had fought him in an instance in 616, let me look through a few back issues. "

I think Morphs right, though IIRC, Apoc wasn't at the top of his game in HoM. However the same method could likely be applied. Magneto has shown a fantastic ability to analyze an enemy from the inside out and then act. The only problem with using the AoA method would be if Magneto's control of metal is greater then Apocs control of his own molecular structure. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Dane said:

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

HoM and AoA. I don't think they have actually fought in 616. "

There's no reason that the same method wouldn't work but I thought he had fought him in an instance in 616, let me look through a few back issues. "

" @Dane said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Dane said:

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

HoM and AoA. I don't think they have actually fought in 616. "

There's no reason that the same method wouldn't work but I thought he had fought him in an instance in 616, let me look through a few back issues. "

It was more so an observation, considering that the characters where not exactly the same in those realities (for example, in HoM Black Bolt decimated Apocalypse with a whisper, while in 616, he withstood his voice and was laughing all the way through), not that the methods (Magneto frying Apocalypse's brain, more or less) wouldn't be applicable for 616 characters.
 
As Lance said, Magneto ripping Apocalypse in half, as he did in AoA is debatable. "

" Certainly, most characters were, if not outright more powerful, certainly more ruthless in AoA. HoM is also debatable but I don't see how it's an inconsistent showing for either of them. Magneto would potentially use it in 616 if he deemed Apocalypse a threat to mutant survival, he's shown that he is willing to kill by the thousands in the past.

  Considering how talked up BB's sonic scream is supposed to be, I thought a whisper in HoM was perfectly reasonable. 616 showings for Blackbolt's voice are extremely inconsistent tbh. It's supposed to level mountains. In WWH his 'Skrull Clone' barely phases Hulk with a scream and Dark Avengers dance around him in Silent War.. Later in War of Kings mere echoes of it are used to destroy entire fleets of Shi'Ar Warships. It's pretty up and down.

Apocalypse wins easy

" @Dane said:

" Certainly, most characters were, if not outright more powerful, certainly more ruthless in AoA. HoM is also debatable but I don't see how it's an inconsistent showing for either of them. Magneto would potentially use it in 616 if he deemed Apocalypse a threat to mutant survival, he's shown that he is willing to kill by the thousands in the past.

I can go with that.
 

  Considering how talked up BB's sonic scream is supposed to be, I thought a whisper in HoM was perfectly reasonable. 616 showings for Blackbolt's voice are extremely inconsistent tbh. It's supposed to level mountains. In WWH his 'Skrull Clone' barely phases Hulk with a scream and Dark Avengers dance around him in Silent War.. Later in War of Kings mere echoes of it are used to destroy entire fleets of Shi'Ar Warships. It's pretty up and down.

 
Agreed, 100%. Those inconsistencies are why I go with Marvel's description that "his whisper can shutter mountains, and his full voice is the equivalent of a nuclear detonation". "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Dane said:

" Certainly, most characters were, if not outright more powerful, certainly more ruthless in AoA. HoM is also debatable but I don't see how it's an inconsistent showing for either of them. Magneto would potentially use it in 616 if he deemed Apocalypse a threat to mutant survival, he's shown that he is willing to kill by the thousands in the past.

I can go with that.
 

  Considering how talked up BB's sonic scream is supposed to be, I thought a whisper in HoM was perfectly reasonable. 616 showings for Blackbolt's voice are extremely inconsistent tbh. It's supposed to level mountains. In WWH his 'Skrull Clone' barely phases Hulk with a scream and Dark Avengers dance around him in Silent War.. Later in War of Kings mere echoes of it are used to destroy entire fleets of Shi'Ar Warships. It's pretty up and down.

 
Agreed, 100%. Those inconsistencies are why I go with Marvel's description that "his whisper can shutter mountains, and his full voice is the equivalent of a nuclear detonation". "

Yeah, the problem is since BB doesn't appear consistently in his own book, his appearances are only ever for the sake of the story. Thus his powers are changed to suit. It's a shame because he's a lot more interesting than all of the Dark Avengers combined. "

" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @Dane said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Dane said:

" @rbysjti said:

" I'd say Storm wins here. Apocalypse is partly robot so an EMP can hurt. Apocalypse may be more likely to win against magneto but Storm would actually have a harder time fighting Magneto . Anyhow, I don't see Apocalypse dodging Storm's attacks. A cannonade of lightning will do, but start it first with powerful wind bursts. "

Magneto has previously defeated Apocalypse within a matter of seconds on two seperate occasions. Might want to look into getting a clue. "

HoM and AoA. I don't think they have actually fought in 616. "

There's no reason that the same method wouldn't work but I thought he had fought him in an instance in 616, let me look through a few back issues. "

I think Morphs right, though IIRC, Apoc wasn't at the top of his game in HoM. However the same method could likely be applied. Magneto has shown a fantastic ability to analyze an enemy from the inside out and then act. The only problem with using the AoA method would be if Magneto's control of metal is greater then Apocs control of his own molecular structure. "

I'm open to standing corrected.  It does stand to reason that Magneto has much better showings against Apocalypse than vice versa though. "

 The brain fry method would require an electro magnetic pulse, but IIRC, Apocalypse can absorb all kinds of energy. I know he's completely drained Cyke before, and his celestial tech has drained Loki of magical energy before. Can't say I've ever seen him absorb electro magnetic energy before, but I don't think it would be out of his range. In Storms case, trying to use lightning ala Hulk would end poorly for her, as he could simply absorb this energy. "

" @Lance Uppercut said:

 The brain fry method would require an electro magnetic pulse, but IIRC, Apocalypse can absorb all kinds of energy. I know he's completely drained Cyke before, and his celestial tech has drained Loki of magical energy before. Can't say I've ever seen him absorb electro magnetic energy before, but I don't think it would be out of his range. In Storms case, trying to use lightning ala Hulk would end poorly for her, as he could simply absorb this energy. "

It's possible that he was caught unaware on that occasion. Unless he is durable enough to withstand it anyway, then he requires conscious concentration to absorb it. Apoc was basically taunting Magneto of his superiority all the way through that fight - he thought him defenceless. By letting his guard slip, Magneto found the opening he required to burn his brain. Had Apocalypse been prepared for it, we cannot know if the method would have been equally successful. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:

 The brain fry method would require an electro magnetic pulse, but IIRC, Apocalypse can absorb all kinds of energy. I know he's completely drained Cyke before, and his celestial tech has drained Loki of magical energy before. Can't say I've ever seen him absorb electro magnetic energy before, but I don't think it would be out of his range. In Storms case, trying to use lightning ala Hulk would end poorly for her, as he could simply absorb this energy. "

It's possible that he was caught unaware on that occasion. Unless he is durable enough to withstand it anyway, then he requires conscious concentration to absorb it. Apoc was basically taunting Magneto of his superiority all the way through that fight - he thought him defenceless. By letting his guard slip, Magneto found the opening he required to burn his brain. Had Apocalypse been prepared for it, we cannot know if the method would have been equally successful. "

My thoughts exactly. "

" @Dane: Well, Apocalypse has shown that he has knowledge of Magneto as a character. I'm sure someone that cunning and devious would be aware of Magneto's abilities and how they could be able to affect him. However, I'll admit that it's always been Apocs ego that holds him down and costs him battles, though to be fair, his reputation is kind of deserved. I knpw in the twelve arc when he was using robotic bodies he let Jean as the Phoenix get a full blast off at him both telekinetically and telepathically, and it did essentially nothing but damage his outer appearance. In a biological form, I'm not sure what the damage would have been, but with his healing abilities as well as his molecular control, I doubt the outcome would have been different.   "

Storm can produce a powerful EMP to knock Apocalypse. 
 
For the images where Apocalypse takes the x-men roster, Storm was written down and wasn't given any participation but just catch Henry. It is because marvel writers know how powerful Storm is and they just wanted other x-men to be more involved on the story.
 
Storm can knock Apocalypse with her wind bursts.

"
   In sixty seconds, in  a weakened state, he proved his dominance over an X-Men roster including Storm. This thread is a joke. "

How fast is Apoc?

" @Lance Uppercut said:

"
   In sixty seconds, in  a weakened state, he proved his dominance over an X-Men roster including Storm. This thread is a joke. "

Nice scans agreed apoc takes this "

None of the things listed are even remotely close to the power level Apocalypse produces. And please, inform me when he's been 'overloaded' by less then Storm?
 

@Stormcell

" She can hurt him with brute force via wind manipulation. If she can strain out Magneto's powers with winds, force objects through mountains with her winds, generate winds at thousands of miles per hour, scour the surface of the world to its bedrock with winds and redirect the full power of Sienna Blaze with winds, she can definitely put the hurt on Poccy with her winds. As a matter of fact, I ask you to tell me one time where Apocalypse ever withstood an attack equal to what Sienna dishes out? If Storm starts using the kind of winds she used to redirect Sienna against Poccy, he's going to be creamed from the brute force of it. The other thing is Storm can use his energy absorption against him. He's been overloaded by less than what Storm can dish out with her lightning. She can overload him and beat him that way.  Now, what is Poccy going to do against Storm if she blinds him with fog and snow? How is he even going to be able to locate her? "

" @Lance Uppercut: IIRC, Cyclops overloaded him in X-Factor once. My memory is fuzzy,but I do recall Poccy being overloaded and ultimately defeated by this tactic there. Also, you're going to have to post scans to show Poccy demonstrating higher energy level and force level attacks than what Storm can dish out. Let me give you a hint: There are not any instances of Poccy demonstrating higher levels of energy wielding and brute force powers than Storm. "

" Storm can produce a powerful EMP to knock Apocalypse.   For the images where Apocalypse takes the x-men roster, Storm was written down and wasn't given any participation but just catch Henry. It is because marvel writers know how powerful Storm is and they just wanted other x-men to be more involved on the story.  Storm can knock Apocalypse with her wind bursts. "

Apocalypse of course.

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" @AngelFrost said:

" @Lance Uppercut:  Bring it girlfriend! Mmmm Hmmmm  *snaps fingers* "

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" @Lance Uppercut:  Yes, I can show you dangerous and unpleasant if you like.  >:S "

" @AngelFrost said:

" @Lance Uppercut:  Yes, I can show you dangerous and unpleasant if you like.  >:S "

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