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#1  Edited By brainiac 1.0

vs

Put why they win.

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#2  Edited By brainiac 1.0

Anyone.

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#3  Edited By Nighthunter

all of those? avengers

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#4  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Avengers...extreme curbstomp.
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#5  Edited By brainiac 1.0

Amazo has all of the powers of the big 7.

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#6  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Amazo has all of the powers of the big 7."

So.
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#7  Edited By brainiac 1.0
Vance Astro said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Amazo has all of the powers of the big 7."

So."

It is still a extreme curbstomp.
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#8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Vance Astro said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Amazo has all of the powers of the big 7."

So."

It is still a extreme curbstomp."

Yes.
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#9  Edited By brainiac 1.0
Vance Astro said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Vance Astro said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Amazo has all of the powers of the big 7."

So."

It is still a extreme curbstomp."

Yes."

Cant he copy some of their powers to and stand a chance.
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#10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Vance Astro said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Vance Astro said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Amazo has all of the powers of the big 7."

So."

It is still a extreme curbstomp."

Yes."

Cant he copy some of their powers to and stand a chance."

Look how many people are in that picture....I don't think it will make much difference.I mean Captain Marvel,Photon,Thor,Ms.Marvel,WonderMan,and Blackbolt alone is overkill.Some of those characters don't have powers to take though...I don't see how he would know whose power to take to give him any chance.
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#11  Edited By brainiac 1.0

But cant he use his powers like superman speed,strength. Martian Manhunters abilties.

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#12  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
brainiac 1.0 said:
"But cant he use his powers like superman speed,strength. Martian Manhunters abilties."

So...
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if the avengers can beat the Super Adaptoid, then they can beat Amazo.

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#14  Edited By The Vine Robots
the human Juggernaut said:
"if the avengers can beat the Super Adaptoid, then they can beat Amazo.
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Whos better amazo or super adaptoid.
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The Vine Robots said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"if the avengers can beat the Super Adaptoid, then they can beat Amazo.
"
Whos better amazo or super adaptoid.
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Super Adaptoid.
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As Amazo possesses the speed of the Flash and the strength of Superman, he can have killed most of his opponents before anyone even realises that he has attacked. Most of the heroes in that picture won't survive a full power punch from Superman. For those that do survive, he can mentally attack them while intangible.

Certainly not a curbstomp especially if you consider that the Avengers shown above appear to be their initial incarnations - so at their power levels when they first joined the Avengers. The costumes prove that.

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#17  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
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As Amazo possesses the speed of the Flash and the strength of Superman, he can have killed most of his opponents before anyone even realises that he has attacked. Most of the heroes in that picture won't survive a full power punch from Superman. For those that do survive, he can mentally attack them while intangible.

Certainly not a curbstomp especially if you consider that the Avengers shown above appear to be their initial incarnations - so at their power levels when they first joined the Avengers. The costumes prove that.

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It doesn't matter if it's the intial incarnations...there are still powerful members and alot of them.
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#18  Edited By the creator

So Scarlet Witch does have massive reality altering powers, Thor has no Thorforce, the Ironman armours are primative and their resident speedster, Quicksilver, can run at 175mph and react at 5x the reaction speed of a human. Physically the team has few members who can even pose a threat to Superman level of durability.
And before anyone says that magical attacks will effect Amazo then, remeber that he also has the durability levels (that are slightly lower) of the Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman.
He even has a GL ring to protect himself with.

They have a telepath or 2 but Moondragon  and the like are not in the league of the Martian Manhunter.

There may be a lot of members on show but before anyone can react, using the Flashes speed and a GL energy scythe (if he wanted), Amazo will have killed over 50% of them. Many of them only have atheletic to enhanced human refelexes and durability. Their heads would be rolling on the floor before Capt America had yelled Avengers Assemble (and he would not get that out as his head would be on the floor as well).

Far from a curbstomp.

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#19  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
the creator said:
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So Scarlet Witch does have massive reality altering powers, Thor has no Thorforce, the Ironman armours are primative and their resident speedster, Quicksilver, can run at 175mph and react at 5x the reaction speed of a human. Physically the team has few members who can even pose a threat to Superman level of durability.
And before anyone says that magical attacks will effect Amazo then, remeber that he also has the durability levels (that are slightly lower) of the Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman.
He even has a GL ring to protect himself with.

They have a telepath or 2 but Moondragon  and the like are not in the league of the Martian Manhunter.

There may be a lot of members on show but before anyone can react, using the Flashes speed and a GL energy scythe (if he wanted), Amazo will have killed over 50% of them. Many of them only have atheletic to enhanced human refelexes and durability. Their heads would be rolling on the floor before Capt America had yelled Avengers Assemble (and he would not get that out as his head would be on the floor as well).

Far from a curbstomp.

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Do you not see Blackbolt,The Vision,Captain Marvel,Photon,The Sentry,Quazar and Vance Astro in the picture?
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the creator said:

There may be a lot of members on show but before anyone can react, using the Flashes speed and a GL energy scythe (if he wanted), Amazo will have killed over 50% of them. Many of them only have atheletic to enhanced human refelexes and durability. Their heads would be rolling on the floor before Capt America had yelled Avengers Assemble (and he would not get that out as his head would be on the floor as well)


just a random point here, but as far as i am aware Amazo has never managed to duplicate Green Lanterns powers as they rely on technology (Oa'n tech) that is lightyears ahead of anything Amazo could produce... likewise he can't counter Kryptonian technology...

if you have scenes of him duplicating Green Lantern powers i'd love to see them, but as far as i'm aware Green Lantern is the only character he has never been able to duplicate

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#21  Edited By the creator
Vance Astro said:

Do you not see Blackbolt,The Vision,Captain Marvel,Photon,The Sentry,Quazar and Vance Astro in the picture?"

Yes I did.

As this battle has no prep time, non of the team will have any special defences up. Look at the baseline abilities of those people.

Black Bolt: Enhnaced human reaction speed and durability (so maybe 2 - 3 times that of Capt America).
Vision: Enhanced human reaction speed. As he is flying he has reduced his density to almost nothing but still must maintain some klevel of density to be affected by air currents.
Capt Marvel: Superhuman strength (15 tonnes - it really should be more), superhuman durability (bullet proof and has engaged super strong beings before in hand to hand like the Thing). According to marvel he did only have enhanced human reactiosn though (these were not enhanced beyond his Kree heritage by the nega bands or the solar treatments provided by an Earth scientist).
Photon: She should actually be named as Capt Marvel, since that is how she first joined and she could convert to different forms of energy. In humna form, she still only had human durability and reaction time.
Vance Astro: Normal human reaction speed and durability.

Sentry has not shown reaction speed as fast as the Flash.
Quasar's quantum bands should react to protect him but his force bubbles have been fractured by powerful beings in the past.

So all the characters named in bold don't have the reaction speed or durability to match the Flash like speed of Amazo or resist an attack from a being with the strength of Superman or a GL ring attack that can deliver more power than a nuke (on an atom wide scythe like band of energy) or a blast of heat vision that is millions of degrees celcius.

Look at the other team members who would be dead from attack as well becuase they are slow or have limited durability,

Quicksilver
Tigra
Capt America
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Mantis
Swordsman
Whizzer
Doctor Druid
Black Widow
Black Knight
Beast
Spider Woman
Falcon
Triatholon
Starfox
Moondragon

An the list goes on.

I don't think that the older Ironman armour (gold colour) would survive either.



 

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#22  Edited By Static Shock

It's far from a curbstomp. Amazo could believably win this battle. And if not, he would take at least more than half of the whole team out.

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#23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
the creator said:
"Vance Astro said:

Do you not see Blackbolt,The Vision,Captain Marvel,Photon,The Sentry,Quazar and Vance Astro in the picture?"

Yes I did.

As this battle has no prep time, non of the team will have any special defences up. Look at the baseline abilities of those people.

Black Bolt: Enhnaced human reaction speed and durability (so maybe 2 - 3 times that of Capt America).
Vision: Enhanced human reaction speed. As he is flying he has reduced his density to almost nothing but still must maintain some klevel of density to be affected by air currents.
Capt Marvel: Superhuman strength (15 tonnes - it really should be more), superhuman durability (bullet proof and has engaged super strong beings before in hand to hand like the Thing). According to marvel he did only have enhanced human reactiosn though (these were not enhanced beyond his Kree heritage by the nega bands or the solar treatments provided by an Earth scientist).
Photon: She should actually be named as Capt Marvel, since that is how she first joined and she could convert to different forms of energy. In humna form, she still only had human durability and reaction time.
Vance Astro: Normal human reaction speed and durability.

Sentry has not shown reaction speed as fast as the Flash.
Quasar's quantum bands should react to protect him but his force bubbles have been fractured by powerful beings in the past.

So all the characters named in bold don't have the reaction speed or durability to match the Flash like speed of Amazo or resist an attack from a being with the strength of Superman or a GL ring attack that can deliver more power than a nuke (on an atom wide scythe like band of energy) or a blast of heat vision that is millions of degrees celcius.

Look at the other team members who would be dead from attack as well becuase they are slow or have limited durability,

Quicksilver
Tigra
Capt America
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Mantis
Swordsman
Whizzer
Doctor Druid
Black Widow
Black Knight
Beast
Spider Woman
Falcon
Triatholon
Starfox
Moondragon

An the list goes on.

I don't think that the older Ironman armour (gold colour) would survive either.



 

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Screw Blackbolt's reaction time...what about his scream.Whose to say that Amazo would use Flash or Superman's speed right away?
What about the Sentry..he could take most of what Amazo could dish out.
Amazo doesn't know that most of these people are far weaker than him...so who does he go after first?
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#24  Edited By the creator
Vance Astro said:
Screw Blackbolt's reaction time...what about his scream.Whose to say that Amazo would use Flash or Superman's speed right away?
What about the Sentry..he could take most of what Amazo could dish out.
Amazo doesn't know that most of these people are far weaker than him...so who does he go after first?"
I am using Amazo at his true potential.
If you have the capacity to strike first, would you ?
I know I would.

If you notice, I did not list Sentry amongst the names above, or Thor or Wonder Man etc, because they have the potential to survive Amazo's first strike.
With the Flash's speed and and attack options from Superman (a laser beam of heat vision passing across the entire Avengers) or from GL (similar effect - laser beam or simply run past everyone with a energy scythe) he can attack everyone in less than a millionth of a second.
Whoever's left standing, he can then engage with.

Let's take Quasar for example. How does Quasar fire an energy beam to hit him, or to encapsulate him in a globe, when by the time Quasar has reacted, Amazo can be half a world away.

How does Wonderman deal with someone who can attack him mentally from half a world away ?

Like I said, it's not a curbstomp as Amazo can face down the entire JLA.
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#25  Edited By zachyhavik

He'd take all there powers. How is this even debatable? If he can take the JLA he can waste the avengers!
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#26  Edited By Ownerz

Thor solos, dumps him into another dimension
 Doctor Druid solos (he fought classic Strange)
Wanda solos, "No more Amazo"
 

 
  

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"  If he can take the JLA he can waste the avengers! "

He's not so tough, many JLA have owned him time and time again and his boy is not so durable
people can literally rip his head off
 

 
 

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Capt Marvel: Superhuman strength (15 tonnes.....

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In justice league unlimited amazo tore through all the green lanterns on oa and demolished the justice league. Plus he will copy all their powers also

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amazo

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Avengers.

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Amazo.

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In justice league unlimited amazo tore through all the green lanterns on oa and demolished the justice league. Plus he will copy all their powers also

Featless Green Lanterns and weak animated Justice League.

Also Sentry solos.

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Sentry solos!

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#33  Edited By Overmonitor

Do Amazo's adaptatiom powers allow him to replicate strength? Like, if he copied Aquaman he should also gain comparable super-strength right? (Which doesn't make sense considering his body doesn't change and has upper limits but whatever).

Well say he then copies Hulk, would he be even stronger now than with Aquaman? Hulk's main power is strength coupled with regeneration, so if Amazo copies him, could his body really withstand the same forces the Hulk can?

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@overmonitor: probably not, but if he copied Luke cage on the other hand...

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Amazo copy Sentry powers, Fart the omniverse out of existence

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#39  Edited By RandomNoob

I still don't see why Amazo can't just speedblitz the Avengers out of existence with Flash's speed, and Superman's strength?

*PS= Because Amazo absorbed Flash's powers, does that give him access to the speedforce? If so speed steal FTW

*PPS- even if they survive his speedblitz, he will have absorbed their powers while speedblitzing.

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#40  Edited By marvelfan123

Lol

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#41  Edited By ganon15

@sirneko: DCAU Amazo BFR'ed a planet just by blinking, and was capable of erasing the universe with just a thought.

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@ganon15 said:

@sirneko: DCAU Amazo BFR'ed a planet just by blinking, and was capable of erasing the universe with just a thought.

Whoa he teleported with a blink. When did he erase an Universe?

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#43  Edited By SirNeko

@overmonitor said:

Do Amazo's adaptatiom powers allow him to replicate strength? Like, if he copied Aquaman he should also gain comparable super-strength right? (Which doesn't make sense considering his body doesn't change and has upper limits but whatever).

Well say he then copies Hulk, would he be even stronger now than with Aquaman? Hulk's main power is strength coupled with regeneration, so if Amazo copies him, could his body really withstand the same forces the Hulk can?

His copy limits are no limit fallacy, but he doesn't get the knowledge with them, he has to still learn all the abilities he has. If a character can blind him somehow fast enough he can beat him. He needs a few seconds to analyze the target with his eyes.

@randomnoob He can Speed Blitz them, probably everyone except Sentry. I am not a Marvel powerhouse, but as much as I have heard Sentry is as fast as Wally or close. Even if he did Blitz, there is nothing he can do that would take Sentry down. I am not a massive powerhouse on Amazo too, but as far as I have in comics he doesn't know how to Speed Steal which doesn't really matter because all that Speed Steal means is that he takes away their Kinetic Energy. Kinetic Energy comes from molecules moving and since Sentry as far as I know is an epic Molecule Manipulator Speed Steal would not work with him, he could just keep moving his molecules around again.

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Considering these are the first incarnations of the Avengers, Amazo stomps. Most of the team is dead before a billionth of a second has passed, and the planet is similarly instantly annihilated. Amazo then uses Martian Manhunter Telepathy to read the thoughts of those present, and mind controls the more physically powerful members of the Avengers to attack the others. Hulk has plenty of resistance feats, but those are all far later in the timeline, as originally he was weak to mind control.

The Sentry and Thor might be the two main deciding factors in this one, and it might come down to a battle between Amazo, Sentry and Thor. And even then Amazo can copy their powers, becoming more powerful yet.

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#45  Edited By ganon15

@sirneko said:
@ganon15 said:

@sirneko: DCAU Amazo BFR'ed a planet just by blinking, and was capable of erasing the universe with just a thought.

Whoa he teleported with a blink. When did he erase an Universe?

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#47  Edited By mr-luxcipher

Avengers(since I don't recall Amazo, feat-wise, replicating a group of that potency. "Group" being the key term here, as I know he replicated the powerfully superior Worlogog, but that's apart from a combat scenario, so far as I'm aware).

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Amazo steals the power of Iron Man's 50's armor and farts everyone.

50's Iron Man Fart > Pre Retcon Beyonder

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