Adult Franklin Richards vs Mad Jim Jaspers vs Marquis of Death

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#1  Edited By Odinson12387

Adult Franklin Richards

Vs

Marquis of Death

Vs

Mad Jim Jaspers

These are 3 of the most powerful mutants ever in my opinion, please state who u think comes out on top

If you don't know Marquis of death google him because he is up there with these guys

Let's have some fun !

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@odinson12387: Mad Jim Jaspers. The guy is way above the other two

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@samconery: mjj lacks the feats.

Franklin should win.

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#7  Edited By samconery

@lariend: Mjj is a omniversal reality warper buddy

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@samconery: yes m8 I have seen the statement but he has never done anything to prove that he is omniversal.

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#9  Edited By samconery

@lariend: There was a whole scan of it wait i will put it in here

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@samconery: mkay that was pretty much the statement I mentioned. It does not say that mjj is omniversal in power just that that particular wave didn't affect him.

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#12  Edited By ScathanApprover

I started off as Pro Jim and stood that way for years, then just recently was swayed with some words by others that claimed Jim wasn't capable of it. I stood with that for a few months. Now, after my own investigations and re-reading the entire comic string, I am back to my original placement and have come full circle. Jim takes Franklin with almost no effort.

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@lariend: Lol that particular wave effect omniversal reality but couldn't affect Mjj. Because Mjj has the power to not get affected by an omniversal force. Which actually still makes him omniversal. Bear in mind there are other reality warpers too combined marvel and dc and they all changed but it never effected Mjj. Actually it will take a huuuuge passage to explain that

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MJJ IMO.

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#15  Edited By Odinson12387

@kingant27: @kingant27: @lariend: @scathanapprover: @samconery: however guys don't forget the way jim died, Franklin can't die like that Bc Franklin DOES NOT need a clay to warp reality and Jim Jaspers does ! And adult Franklin i think is a better warrior/at combat

And guys how about Marquis of death he's so awesome I think him and Franklin almaot stalemate, he traveled the multiverse and he wiped out all the universes he came across ! Also he can create entities to fight stronger than Galactus

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#17  Edited By Odinson12387

@krleavenger: weigh in your opinion I'm curious who u think takes it

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@odinson12387: It can ge either way actually. Probably at full potential Jim Jaspers would win but at the level he usually is he would probably lose to Franklin Richards who would eventually beat Marquis of Death. Between Marquis of Death and Jaspers at his shown level, I'm not sure. Maybe give the edge to Marquis of Death but Jaspers wont be so stupid again.

Full Potential:

Mad Jim Jaspers > Franklin Richards > Marquis of Death.

Standard/Normal Level:

Franklin Richards > Mad Jim Jaspers > < Marquis of Death.

Do you agree?

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@krleavenger: makes sense

Sounds right but I honestly can't pick which is why I made this thread

I feel like Franklin has best combat skills

I feel like although the needing a clay issue mad Jim Jaspers still warped reality most easily

And I feel like MOD is the most bloodlusted one with reality warping so idk!

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@kingant27: @kingant27: @lariend: @scathanapprover: @samconery: however guys don't forget the way jim died, Franklin can't die like that Bc Franklin DOES NOT need a clay to warp reality and Jim Jaspers does ! And adult Franklin i think is a better warrior/at combat

And guys how about Marquis of death he's so awesome I think him and Franklin almaot stalemate, he traveled the multiverse and he wiped out all the universes he came across ! Also he can create entities to fight stronger than Galactus

I think they have different subsets of powers. For example Jim seemed to have dominance in his area, Franklin did not. Nobody really opposed Jim where he was, others opposed Franklin. I circle back to my Authority argument, come in my house and you play by my rules. If I leave my house, I play by your rules. Jim's "House" per say was smaller than Franklin's, who is more like the rich guy who owns the entire street. But, once that rich guy goes into that one house, he has to abide by that house's rules. Jim played with those rules as he pleased. Franklin did not, physics and the universe itself was still normalized around him and his reality warping was different than Jim's. MoD is just a raw destructive force and it's power is more like Franklins. I do not think either of them can actually warp reality, space and time like Jim can. But, I think both Franklin and MoD's destructive power exceeds Jim's for the moment. Jim showcased the need for some time to do what he wants, he is also an idiot who doesn't have the cosmic knowledge at all. Jim never really tried to go outside of his house, so to speak. When he did in that omniverse scan, he seems to be able to feel and sense and affect a much larger area.

Basically, Jim's feats are inside of his house. Franklin's and MoD's were running around the block. Jim stepped outside one day and a scan implied he was actually the owner of the entire city, but didn't care or need to go beyond his home and comfort zone. I hope that makes sense, that is how I've always seen it.

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#21  Edited By KrleAvenger

@odinson12387: That is the problem. Everyone is better than anyone at something.

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@odinson12387:

Wow... Great thread bro, any of these three could arguably win. Anyone saying bump/spite is trolling or don't know these characters.

I honestly don't know, I'd say FR due to "having a bigger area" so-to-say. But it could go any way really!! Put them all in a multiverse they've never been to before and that'd be an absolute even fight, so idk??!?

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Friend I believe you have got the wrong scan. The scan above is actually from Die By The Sword. This is a follow up to House of M story arc. Jasper from 616 reality was dead at this time. It was the Chaos Wave from Wanda that is responsible for the said omniversal destruction.

The wave however did not put everything back exactly how it is. One of the difference being Jasper came back to life.

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Mad Jim Jaspers was a even more powerful reality warper then Franklin hell he was only beaten because the writer use a deus ex machina to kill him same thing happened to Matthew Malloy who was more powerful then Franklinhe he was most likely more powerful then Mad Jim Jaspers too.

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Mjj while I would say he is actually less powerful he is more nuanced and skilled in the actually reality warping, he cannot create but he can mold what already exists in a way at least Franklin Richards has not shown

I don't actually know anything about mod so I can't way in there.

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@odinson12387: can i just say that u r wrong about saying those three r the most powerful mutant ever, u r forgetting Matthew Malloy, Hope Summers and WPOTC "tho she'd be more of an entity than a mutant"

MOD>>>>MJJ>>>>Franklin

And at full potential

MJJ>>>>MOD>>>>Franklin

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New here. Got a question. Who can destroy & create universes?

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Franklin is The weakest here, i dont understand y ppl overrate him. His best feat is to create à pocket dimension and he was stated ti be on par with The Celestials which in turn r on par with Galactus. MoD already made Galactus and his betters Eternity, Order, Chaos, Mistress Love etc his puppet soldiers. MJJ is multiversal, Franklin needed The power of his younger version's power to resurrect and fight The Celestials. Thats two Franklin powers. I dont know which one of The two multiversal mutants (MoD & MJJ) is more powerful but they Will beat Franklin any time in The week.

Marquis of Death >> << MJJ >>>>>>>>> Franklin.

P.S Matthew Malloy is The most powerful mutant ever, and i believe Hope Summers is second to him due to her dublication powers. I would say Jean as WPOTC is The most powerful but she isnt à mutant anymore but The of creation/life.

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#34  Edited By huthimamwa

I never understood the hype around Matthew Malloy. Yea he was stated to be the most powerful mutant ever but since when do character statements mean anything compared to feats?

He destroyed a building, destroyed a helicarrier, altered some landscape in his immediate surroundings, healed from a skeleton, killed Emma Frost, showed some telepathic resistance and energy projection. Thats pretty much it. Those are his feats. He even outright failed to (and stated he couldn't) bring people back to life. By feats, he isnt anywhere near the 3 on this thread, or even other powerful mutant reality warpers like Legion or HOM Wanda.

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MJJ > Marquis > Franklin

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@huthimamwa: statements >>>>> feats.. statements r more of an identity. Jean Grey is a mutant - That's a statement, she is an omega level mutant with telekinetic and telepathyc - a statement. Feats r more like she is capable of this and that on that level!

Feats without statements would look very stupid. This is why statements r >>>> feats

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MOD is on another level

MJJ is overrated alot

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#38  Edited By miyi22

order of most powerful between Franklin richards, mod, matthew malloy, legion, nathaniel grey, gabriel shepherd (obscure), mjj, james braddock jr, mister m

you can throw in mm, and beyonder (child unit)

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Mad Jim Jaspers. I don't see how Franklin can win here, honestly.

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Mad Jim is a whole different beast

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Bump and I’ll go with Clyde. When you can kill even an alternate reality Molecule man on a whim, have Eternity as your b*tch, and destroy universe after universe like It’s nothing, then you take the win here.

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MOD > AFR < MJJ

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Bump — eager to hear everyone’s thoughts

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MoD > MJJ > Franklin

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Franklin richards is so overrated like roma as said that franklin is on the same power level as the celestial which means he can control matter on a cosmic scale and also control reality on a universal scale in a pocket dimension. so i don't understand why people keeps on saying he is universal or even multiversal, then they will now be comparing him to the like of mjj and mod which doesn't make sense.