So is she one of the the best telepaths there is because it says that her powers rival that of Xaviers and he is one of the best and he also got a power boost. So my question/theory is that she would be more powerful than him if he did not recieve a power boost of course that would mean he was depowered but before that if they went head on who would win?

not sure who would win but I know she does have one telepathic ability that separates her from the rest

"Frost is also very adept at performing 'psychic surgery': the utilization of pin-pointed psionic energy to exert absolute control over individual brain functions such that the physical form can be manipulated (i.e., injuries healed, disabilities repaired, the nervous system, etc), a sub-skill of telepathy unusual for even the most powerful of telepaths."
- wikipedia

The Psychic surgey seems cool
Although I think she can just , take away the pain of an injury.

I doubt she can interfeer with the parts of the brain that brain does not control.
such as healing ...our body does it involountary.

umm other psychics can do that duh! i know jean grey can. emma is no better than jean or xavier!!!! >:P

Don't you just love a well reasoned argument... This isn't about Emma Versus Jean.  It's about comparing Emma's powers to Xavier's.

It's been a long time, but she used to shift her mind into the bodies of others.  She even used to swap them around.  She swapped minds and bodies with Storm, and later inhabited Iceman's body at the same time causing him to push his powers to limits he'd never previously achieved.

I don't think there have been many times where she's openly squared off against Xavier.  I know the most recent was in Legacy, where she pretty much trounced him.  But in Xavier's favour, he was still struggling with fractured memories & having been shot in the head.

I Honestly think she would win just because shes alot more agressive/cold than xavier.

Emma frost is the most powerful telepath on Earth when Jean Grey is not alive. She has proven that she can beat Xavier multiple times.

She would maybe win it would be a very close call!!

Wasn't Xavier depowered due to Scarlet Witch spell, but he is repowered even stronger. So if he hadn't retain his powers Emma would of been top class Telepath.:]

it said she rivaled prof x so maybe they would meet on an even footing?

I was just thinking if EMMA and Prof X got in a cat fight....... um Telepath fight..... I would actualy think It Emma would win.

Exavier would have some bogus excuse to why he is fighting the White Queen....... then she would have a smart comment with a  bitchy fit........
The while Emma is in her diamond form she would break Prof's spine again...... for the thousand time....... and this time she would not only break him but his mind too, making her the stronger telepath.......

Yeah A guy can dream...... but I truly think Emma Is top of the Game when it comes to power........

all i know is she is a psychic like jean grey and the professor.. but i think she is a power psychic bec she can use the cerebro....

Actually, anyone can use Cerebro but telepaths get the best results. 

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She could beat him. Besides were looking at this all wrong. She could just pound him in the head with her diamond fists.

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correct. Emma has been shown to sedate him. Which means that she can overpower him. she even help his telepathy back in WWH!"

xavier is world's most powerful telepath

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She could beat him. Besides were looking at this all wrong. She could just pound him in the head with her diamond fists.

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correct. Emma has been shown to sedate him. Which means that she can overpower him. she even help his telepathy back in WWH!"

and she was overpowered by Martha the floating brain before, so then No-Girl must be the most powerful telepath in the world right?  He has better showings, like when he gathered and projected the thoughts of enitre Skrull home world into the mind of Galactus while cutting through planet-wide psi static, without aid, her biggest feat was taking over the hive mind of 1000 cloned daughters with the aid of machinery that was designed to do just that.  She was imprisoned within an illusion by one of the Mastermind chicks, he was able to best Exodus after being shot in the head and having his mind fractured.  Xavier is by far the more cunning and skilled telepath and is just a ruthless as Magneto or any villian, he merely hides it better under the guise of a peace lover.  The Xmen were his tools to force the world into his way of thinking so that he did not have to break some kind of self-imposed code of honor, which he had no problems with in the early days, when he use to mind wipe entire towns, or even his own team stealing and rewriting their memories, Emma met opposition from Gen X when she messed with their minds which allowed her to show them that her telepathic skill was greater than their skill over their own power (one of her greatest showings ever), but you see they would not have questioned Xavier  or even realized that their desires where his to begin with so he would not have had to resort to battling them.  In closing Emma has not gotten any stronger or more skilled than she was before she showed up (Xavier was most powerful then) she has just gotten more "air time" to show off what she can do.  She has for the most part always been at the her A-game and has been consistently shown to be under him in power and skill, one telepath affecting another is not impossible and her sedating him and making him relive memories prove nothing unless the same logic can be apllied to all others, like her and No-Girl, or Sage redirecting Betsys psi-bolt when we all know Bets is the more powerful telepath of those two, or M kicking Emma out of her mind with such force it sent her flying, so does that mean Emma<M telepathically?  The only reason she has powers that rival his now is because there are just not that many telepaths around like it used to be, back then when you talked of telepaths she was hardly mentioned, now that everybody else is gone, she is his rival by default. "@Phoenix of the Black Throne: But if you think about it she was overpowered by Martha in her diamond form because in that form her powers were very inconsistent and to this day they still are, also Lady Mastermind caught her in an illuision off guard giving her no time to defend herself. Also she was able to battle Exodus in a telepathic duel, distracting him long enough for Dust to attack him, and Sage was train by Xavier herself to reflect telepathic attacks. As for Xavier he recieve a major power boost. Though we hadn't seen his limit since he gain his boost, he may be stronger than Emma :D. And your right about the not that many telepath around:) "

she was going into diamond form and was hit in the face by a guard, John Sublime had been using Martha to brain screw her at Scott fromt he start, she was not in diamond form and the moment she began to transform she was hit, and stayed that way until the operating table, she then used her own telepathy to overcome Martha, point being she was unaware of that another telepath was affecting her, that does not mean that telepath is more powerful than the other, unless stated, she is not on Xaviers level and there is nothing to suggest that she is, when she mind blasts Galactus, or has a hand in binding the Phoenix (just in case Warsong is mentioned, she did not bind the Phoenix she she unplugged the mind of it's host, but that did not stop the Phoenix)  or inhibiting the massive mutant powers of Jean Grey or sensing an extraterrestrial attack months in advance and then stopping it without Earth ever finding out she'll rival him for real. "

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She could beat him. Besides were looking at this all wrong. She could just pound him in the head with her diamond fists.

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Wasn't Xavier depowered due to Scarlet Witch spell, but he is repowered even stronger. So if he hadn't retain his ... [more]

correct. Emma has been shown to sedate him. Which means that she can overpower him. she even help his telepathy back in WWH!"

and she was overpowered by Martha the floating brain before, so then No-Girl must be the most powerful telepath in the world right?  He has better showings, like when he gathered and projected the thoughts of enitre Skrull home world into the mind of Galactus while cutting through planet-wide psi static, without aid, her biggest feat was taking over the hive mind of 1000 cloned daughters with the aid of machinery that was designed to do just that.  She was imprisoned within an illusion by one of the Mastermind chicks, he was able to best Exodus after being shot in the head and having his mind fractured.  Xavier is by far the more cunning and skilled telepath and is just a ruthless as Magneto or any villian, he merely hides it better under the guise of a peace lover.  The Xmen were his tools to force the world into his way of thinking so that he did not have to break some kind of self-imposed code of honor, which he had no problems with in the early days, when he use to mind wipe entire towns, or even his own team stealing and rewriting their memories, Emma met opposition from Gen X when she messed with their minds which allowed her to show them that her telepathic skill was greater than their skill over their own power (one of her greatest showings ever), but you see they would not have questioned Xavier  or even realized that their desires where his to begin with so he would not have had to resort to battling them.  In closing Emma has not gotten any stronger or more skilled than she was before she showed up (Xavier was most powerful then) she has just gotten more "air time" to show off what she can do.  She has for the most part always been at the her A-game and has been consistently shown to be under him in power and skill, one telepath affecting another is not impossible and her sedating him and making him relive memories prove nothing unless the same logic can be apllied to all others, like her and No-Girl, or Sage redirecting Betsys psi-bolt when we all know Bets is the more powerful telepath of those two, or M kicking Emma out of her mind with such force it sent her flying, so does that mean Emma<M telepathically?  The only reason she has powers that rival his now is because there are just not that many telepaths around like it used to be, back then when you talked of telepaths she was hardly mentioned, now that everybody else is gone, she is his rival by default. "@Phoenix of the Black Throne: But if you think about it she was overpowered by Martha in her diamond form because in that form her powers were very inconsistent and to this day they still are, also Lady Mastermind caught her in an illuision off guard giving her no time to defend herself. Also she was able to battle Exodus in a telepathic duel, distracting him long enough for Dust to attack him, and Sage was train by Xavier herself to reflect telepathic attacks. As for Xavier he recieve a major power boost. Though we hadn't seen his limit since he gain his boost, he may be stronger than Emma :D. And your right about the not that many telepath around:) "

she was going into diamond form and was hit in the face by a guard, John Sublime had been using Martha to brain screw her at Scott fromt he start, she was not in diamond form and the moment she began to transform she was hit, and stayed that way until the operating table, she then used her own telepathy to overcome Martha, point being she was unaware of that another telepath was affecting her, that does not mean that telepath is more powerful than the other, unless stated, she is not on Xaviers level and there is nothing to suggest that she is, when she mind blasts Galactus, or has a hand in binding the Phoenix (just in case Warsong is mentioned, she did not bind the Phoenix she she unplugged the mind of it's host, but that did not stop the Phoenix)  or inhibiting the massive mutant powers of Jean Grey or sensing an extraterrestrial attack months in advance and then stopping it without Earth ever finding out she'll rival him for real. "

Wow your correct and didn't she break her nose when the guard punch her face? xD "

yeah that is when she first makes mention of having plastic surgery I believe her first nose ran her $20000 "

I don't think that this is an argument that any one side can win just because Emma's powers have been portrayed at very different levels throughout the years, and no one has properly defined Xavier's powers as of yet (post power boost). If we are talking about Emma's Hellfire Club days then Xavier would have beat her ass in psychic combat. If we are talking about the Generation X era Emma, Xavier probably would have beaten her then too (I am just basing that off of the fact that Emma's powers seemed to be very easily countered during GX, like it didn't seem to be terribly difficult to run some psychic interference that would take her out of the fight). If we are talking about in the past ten years, I think that Emma is probably very close to Xavier's power levels, if not at or past them.
In the past Emma has proven herself very adept at performing very specific psychic attacks and some levels of mind control. Xavier has consistently proven to be extremely adept at pretty much all forms of psychic attacks and has been show to be capable of very high levels of mind control. I think that while Emma is probably more skilled in certain areas as far as psychic attacks are concerned, I think that Xavier is simply capable of many more psychic feats than her. Emma hasn't been portrayed as a psychic powerhouse until she has started affiliating herself with the X-Men, and the main team in particular. Even in her Generation X days she was portrayed as quite a bit weaker than she is now. I think that as time progresses Emma may become the premiere telepath of the marvel universe, but as someone upthread mentioned, she was never portrayed as super powerful until the depowerment.  Now her power levels are comparable to Xavier's just because there are much fewer mutants and whereas she might have been the tenth most powerful telepath before M-Day, she could very well be the second most powerful post M-Day just because everyone else lost their powers.

Skilled and experienced enough to defeat Rachel Grey. 

She was never supposed to be all powerful, she was supposed to be skilled because of how hard she worked. Apparently it doesnt matter now anyway since Fraction decided she was an Omega level telepath...whatever that means.

"@Foreverbbyily: emmma admitted herself that she was inferior to him which is why the only reason she can beat him is to set up traps nd be sneaky if it was a straight up tp fight xavier wud win easily  please use logic cuz ur fanboyism is begginning to show "

"@Foreverbbyily: professor x can drag her to the astral plane or something idc what if xavier attacks b4 she can transform "

 In 1971 the Shadow King was somehow able to duplicate the body of Farouk and return where he met with James Watkins Jr. leader of the V-Battalion. Watkins offered him full support of the V-Battalion if Farouk was able to obtain information about the  Everlasting. With a quick mind scan he came up withe name Marduk and gave it to Watkins. Farouk eventually became a crimelord in Egypt, controlling the Cairo Thieves Quarter. This is where a young Charles Xavier was pickpocketed by Ororo Munroe. After Xavier stopped her and retrieved his wallet he was hit with a bolt of psionic energy. When Xavier recovered he found that the source of the attack came from a nearby tavern where he met Farouk. Xavier walked in the tavern and sat at a separate table from Farouk and they had a mental conversation with one another. Farouk told Xavier that he could sense another powerful telepath close by and that the attack was a warning for him to stay clear of his area. Farouk tried to persuade Xavier to join him in his criminal activities but Xavier refused. Xavier believed that people with such gifts should use their abilities to better the world. The two went into astral form and battled on the astral plane where Xavier defeated Farouk with a powerful psionic attack. This left Farouk's body physically dead. Farouk having been Xavier's first encounter with an evil mutant is what led to his formation of the X-Men. Farouk's body may have died but he moved his astral form to another plane. Now afraid of Xavier he waited for a better opportunity to fight him safely

"Anyway, back to topic Emma is powerfull and probably one of the most powerfull Telepaths on the X-Men which is why she had no choice but to turn into diamond when the void entered her mind.  Sorry Foreverbbyily    Emma isnt more powerfull then charles, she is just more sneaky then him.  He can even get through her diamond form as shown in Uncanny 518. "

Emma was able to suppress Xavier's powers, who cited himself as being more powerful than ever.