Emma's Reputation

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#1 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Where does she get it from? She has only been with 3 guys [give or take], so why is she frowned upon? Sure she dress provocatively, ecspecially for a headmaster, but does she really deserve the rep she has?

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#2 Posted by Jack the Ripper (2060 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"she dress provocatively"
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#3 Posted by Pania (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

She plays up her sexuality is is not above/afraid of using it to get her own way. Some people resent that. If Emma was an idiot getting to the top on her back, I'd say she deserves the rep, but given that she is in fact a very intelligent and capable woman, I'd say she does not. If a man is stupid enough to let the possibility of sleeping with her distract him from holding his ground against her on a business or ethical issue, that's his look out.

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#4 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

I've found most of the woman with "Reputations" don't really deserve them. Emma's attitude doesn't help her image any either though. She plays (or did play) the slutty, bitchy role. Its the way Marvel created her character. Its not about how many people she's actually been with, its the way she acts around all men. She's seductive. She knows men desire her and she uses that to get what she wants. Personally I think she's fond of her rep.

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#5 Posted by Midnight Lantern (5974 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Emma. Don't change her.

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#6 Posted by Charmcaster (5141 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"I've found most of the woman with "Reputations" don't really deserve them. Emma's attitude doesn't help her image any either though. She plays (or did play) the slutty, bitchy role. Its the way Marvel created her character. Its not about how many people she's actually been with, its the way she acts around all men. She's seductive. She knows men desire her and she uses that to get what she wants. Personally I think she's fond of her rep."

cough*Iloveemmasheactslikeallprettyblondesdonothingwrongwiththat*cough

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#7 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma Frost is one of my favorite characters. The only thing I hate is how Marvel still bends over backwards to have Jean kick her @$$ everytime they fight. Its time for Emma to be one of the most powerful Marvel characters out there.

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#8 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

I Absolutely Love Emma, Ecspecially when she had her little Confrontation with Ms. Marvel over the death of the students due to stryker. She's not afraid of her sexuality and people normally just see the inflated breast and hardcore stomach and then they attack her for it

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#9 Posted by The Spartan (6192 posts) - - Show Bio

Charmcaster says:

"Gambler says:
"I've found most of the woman with "Reputations" don't really deserve them. Emma's attitude doesn't help her image any either though. She plays (or did play) the slutty, bitchy role. Its the way Marvel created her character. Its not about how many people she's actually been with, its the way she acts around all men. She's seductive. She knows men desire her and she uses that to get what she wants. Personally I think she's fond of her rep."
***cough****Iloveemmasheactslikeallprettyblondesdonothingwrongwiththat****cough***"

Ummmmm......

Bless you?

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#10 Posted by Jack the Ripper (2060 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"I Absolutely Love Emma, Ecspecially when she had her little Confrontation with Ms. Marvel over the death of the students due to stryker. She's not afraid of her sexuality and people normally just see the inflated breast and hardcore stomach and then they attack her for it"

attack her? I love her for it!

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#11 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack the Ripper says:

"pixelized says:
"I Absolutely Love Emma, Ecspecially when she had her little Confrontation with Ms. Marvel over the death of the students due to stryker. She's not afraid of her sexuality and people normally just see the inflated breast and hardcore stomach and then they attack her for it"
attack her? I love her for it!"
You like her for the way she looks? but she's a deeper character than that.
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#12 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Gambler says:
"Emma Frost is one of my favorite characters. The only thing I hate is how Marvel still bends over backwards to have Jean kick her @$$ everytime they fight. Its time for Emma to be one of the most powerful Marvel characters out there."

Lack of the Phoenix force will do that to her"

Yup. Maybe its time for the Phoenix to move on. Let Jean stay dead and lets elevate Emma to the upper echelon.

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#13 Posted by Pania (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno, I like the fact that Emma is the better telepath not because she has more raw power, but because she is far more imaginative and skilled (and less scrupulous) in using it.


Post Edited:2008-03-19 22:55:09

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#14 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Emma Frost is one of my favorite characters. The only thing I hate is how Marvel still bends over backwards to have Jean kick her @$$ everytime they fight. Its time for Emma to be one of the most powerful Marvel characters out there."

Lack of the Phoenix force will do that to her

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#15 Posted by Jack the Ripper (2060 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Jack the Ripper says:
"pixelized says:
"I Absolutely Love Emma, Ecspecially when she had her little Confrontation with Ms. Marvel over the death of the students due to stryker. She's not afraid of her sexuality and people normally just see the inflated breast and hardcore stomach and then they attack her for it"
attack her? I love her for it!"
You like her for the way she looks? but she's a deeper character than that.
Post Edited:2008-03-19 22:51:19"

I did not say I like her for the way she looks, I said I like the way she looks

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#16 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"I dunno, I like the fact that Emma is the better telepath not because she has more raw powers, but because she is far more imaginative and skilled (and less scrupulous) in using it.
Post Edited:2008-03-19 22:54:49"

Thats cool to. I just want her to be head and shoulders above everyone else. Phoenix included.

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#17 Posted by Midnight Lantern (5974 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Emma Frost.

NEVER Change her.

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#18 Posted by Pania (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, she's not going to be head and shoulders above the cosmic embodiment of life itself. But if Phoenix would please, please go away and never return, she certainly could be better than Jean.

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#19 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack the Ripper says:

"pixelized says:
"Jack the Ripper says:
"pixelized says:
"I Absolutely Love Emma, Ecspecially when she had her little Confrontation with Ms. Marvel over the death of the students due to stryker. She's not afraid of her sexuality and people normally just see the inflated breast and hardcore stomach and then they attack her for it"
attack her? I love her for it!"
You like her for the way she looks? but she's a deeper character than that.
Post Edited:2008-03-19 22:51:19"
I did not say I like her for the way she looks, I said I like the way she looks"

Understood

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#20 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"I dunno, I like the fact that Emma is the better telepath not because she has more raw power, but because she is far more imaginative and skilled (and less scrupulous) in using it.
Post Edited:2008-03-19 22:55:09"

Her telepathy is beautiful. I love hoe she uses it. but i'm a sucker for telekenisis which is why half of my heart os with jean as well as emma

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#21 Posted by Midnight Lantern (5974 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Someone list them, cause all i know of is Cyclops and possibly sebastian shaw"

Well, I'm one of them.

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#22 Posted by Midnight Lantern (5974 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Where does she get it from? She has only been with 3 guys [give or take], so why is she frowned upon? Sure she dress provocatively, ecspecially for a headmaster, but does she really deserve the rep she has?"

Emma has had more than three men.

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#23 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone list them, cause all i know of is Cyclops and possibly sebastian shaw

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#24 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"Well, she's not going to be head and shoulders above the cosmic embodiment of life itself. But if Phoenix would please, please go away and never return, she certainly could be better than Jean. "

That works for me. I also agree with pixie....something about telekinesis. Its one of my favorite powers and Emma needs it. Actually I think she has displayed limited TK once before. But I'm not sure.

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#25 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL. It must not have been great if it didnt make the series...lol

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#26 Posted by Midnight Lantern (5974 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"LOL. It must not have been great if it didnt make the series...lol"

She loves me. You jealous.

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#27 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnight Lantern says:

"pixelized says:
"LOL. It must not have been great if it didnt make the series...lol"
She loves me. You jealous."

Emma's gorgeous and all, but i'd prefer the other sex. haha

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#28 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"LOL. It must not have been great if it didnt make the series...lol"

lol

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#29 Posted by King Saturn (220478 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma Frost is hot. Thats all I got to say about this

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#30 Posted by nyx (184 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Someone list them, cause all i know of is Cyclops and possibly sebastian shaw"

I'm not sure how many she's been with, but there's a quote from her in (I think) Gen X where she's facing off with Iceman and he restrains her with ice on her hands and feet, and she says something along the lines of, 'Is that all? I used to pay good money--" So, Emma used to be ubber kinky. Then again, corset, thigh high boots, fur cape, c'mon, she was a bloody dominatrix.

Now, does she deserve it? Don't get me wrong, I love the character, I RP Emma in a few RPGs. Emma is a character who has a rich history and complex persona, but is dressed provocatively on a more than regular basis. I think it's more an issue of the way Marvel--comics, in general--treat their female characters. Why must Emma have barely enough material to cover her nipples? It sends a bad message to both male and female readers. I'm not sure how many female readers comic books have, I know it must be substantial. But females, especially pre-teen to mid-20s, have enough self-image problems as it is and don't need some anorexic stick figure with huge boobs to further distort their views of beauty (Yes, she must work out a lot, but that in itself is a psychological disorder, plus when have you EVER seen Emma grungy and sweaty and lifting weights?). Males, this is a patriarchal society, don't deny it. Women are still paid substantially less then men for the exact same job, amount of work, education, and skill level. Now, here we have little Ms. CEO who wears barely enough clothes to constitute as being dressed. What does that tell you? High ranking/paying job+provocative clothes= Oh mama, she is LOOSE! That is an insult to all working women who climb the cooperate ladder. It's demeaning to women in general. Does she deserve it, I think so, only because of the message her character's portrayal conveys. Is she really little miss sex kitten, I don't know. But the way they portray her, yes, she is.
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#31 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

nyx says:

"pixelized says:
"Someone list them, cause all i know of is Cyclops and possibly sebastian shaw"
I'm not sure how many she's been with, but there's a quote from her in (I think) Gen X where she's facing off with Iceman and he restrains her with ice on her hands and feet, and she says something along the lines of, 'Is that all? I used to pay good money--" So, Emma used to be ubber kinky. Then again, corset, thigh high boots, fur cape, c'mon, she was a bloody dominatrix. Now, does she deserve it? Don't get me wrong, I love the character, I RP Emma in a few RPGs. Emma is a character who has a rich history and complex persona, but is dressed provocatively on a more than regular basis. I think it's more an issue of the way Marvel--comics, in general--treat their female characters. Why must Emma have barely enough material to cover her nipples? It sends a bad message to both male and female readers. I'm not sure how many female readers comic books have, I know it must be substantial. But females, especially pre-teen to mid-20s, have enough self-image problems as it is and don't need some anorexic stick figure with huge boobs to further distort their views of beauty (Yes, she must work out a lot, but that in itself is a psychological disorder, plus when have you EVER seen Emma grungy and sweaty and lifting weights?). Males, this is a patriarchal society, don't deny it. Women are still paid substantially less then men for the exact same job, amount of work, education, and skill level. Now, here we have little Ms. CEO who wears barely enough clothes to constitute as being dressed. What does that tell you? High ranking/paying job+provocative clothes= Oh mama, she is LOOSE! That is an insult to all working women who climb the cooperate ladder. It's demeaning to women in general. Does she deserve it, I think so, only because of the message her character's portrayal conveys. Is she really little miss sex kitten, I don't know. But the way they portray her, yes, she is.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 10:20:52"

All the female characters cant be carbon copies of each other running around saving the world looking like sporty spice...In one way i appreciate Marvel for making her different but i think she is overtly sexy, ecpsecially for a headmaster. I think i'm the biggest Emma fan on the planet but still, it gets to be a bit too much. Oh and the Iceman restraints comment...Being kinky doesnt need to give you a rep. I think Initially Miss Frost started out as eye candy to get more readers, but now she's an established charcter so she can still wear a corset, just put on a jacket and ensure the belly is covered....But you know, "if you got it, Flaunt it" lol..

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#32 Posted by WARLOCK2792 (18068 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Pania says:
"I dunno, I like the fact that Emma is the better telepath not because she has more raw power, but because she is far more imaginative and skilled (and less scrupulous) in using it.
Post Edited:2008-03-19 22:55:09"
Her telepathy is beautiful. I love hoe she uses it. but i'm a sucker for telekenisis which is why half of my heart os with jean as well as emma"
She appears to have latent telekenetic abilities.
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#33 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

I think troy and emma bumped uglies, but i doubt it about the teacher....Later on she told him she was a "mutie" and he all but jumpped off a cliff. Plus he had gotten in trouble for a mere kiss, i doubt more happened.



Telekinetic or not, the way she had Kimura in tears after she took her memories of her grand mother...Brilliant....Simply Brillant

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#34 Posted by iSHADOW (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Someone list them, cause all i know of is Cyclops and possibly sebastian shaw"

yeah cyclops, sebastian shaw, iSHADOW...

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#35 Posted by WARLOCK2792 (18068 posts) - - Show Bio

I have much respect for Emma. But I heard from someone that she either seduced, or slept with Tony Stark. Is there any truth to that? I hope not.

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#36 Posted by Pania (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, there is truth. It was confirmed in in the Civil War mini that Emma and Tony were "booty-call buddies". (Which kinda makes sense as they move in the same social circles.)

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#37 Posted by iSHADOW (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

Pania says:

"Yes, there is truth. It was confirmed in in the Civil War mini that Emma and Tony were "booty-call buddies". (Which kinda makes sense as they move in the same social circles.) "

i smell celebrity sex tape

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#38 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony and Emma? Tony is so lame...although he has money, so i guess i cant hate her. lol

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#39 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Trust me, i'll defend Emma to my death bed! but i highly doubt her and Ian did more than kiss. Besides when he met up with her again all those years later, he was with her roomate...plus if he would have cheated on emma's roomate with emma, i'm sure it would have been worthy enough to mention.

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#40 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats what i was talking about too...when ian mysteriously showed up as her roomates Tutor. I still think it'd be worthy of a mention had they done somethng, seeing as how it was something we were expecting to happen since high school
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#41 Posted by Roguegirl (179 posts) - - Show Bio

I finde Rogue an much more interesting character

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#42 Posted by Luminum (10 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma probably gets her rep from her unflinching use of her body to be provocative. She even mentioned once that in the Hellfire Club, she enjoyed wearing the patronizing and sexist mandated underwear and corset because it distracted men and made them more susceptible to her telepathy. It comes more from her self-maintained image of being a sexual being and the embodiment of men's desires in order to keep the upper ground in an interaction rather than anything she's actually done.

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#43 Posted by vance_astro (89929 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm startin to dislike Emma Frost.

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#44 Posted by The Devil Tiger (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

Not me. I like her, but I think she will be bored with Scott. Ah well, Scott is boooooring ! I like Emma cause she isn't, even if she's bitchy sometime. It's like Gregory House : "I'm good, but you'll hate me for what I am." For the Male dominating issue and the teen-female problem... well, Emma is not the part of the problem, just look almost every women character of the comics, they're all gorgeous and beautiful ! In the TV, that's pretty (joke !) worse, if you think I'm wrong, think about it : There's a reason why Ugly betty is remarquable as a show, so...

Emma ROCKS !

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#45 Posted by The Devil Tiger (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

Beside of that, she admit to use esthetical chirugy, that make her a LOT more real hat the other female character in comics. She admit she have a weakness in the physical point that is an issue for any women I know.

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#46 Posted by xerox_kitty (17340 posts) - - Show Bio

I used to like Emm'a fiercesome reputation.  In business and in battle, people knew they were in trouble if they were up against her.  Now, I personally feel that her reputation is being diminished into someone who cries over her relationship every 5 minutes.  The White Queen should be renamed the Wet Blanket :p 
 
When Jean comes back (and we all know she will), then she & Emma should both walk out on Cyclops & set up their own team ;)

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#47 Posted by Gene_Pool (657 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
"I used to like Emm'a fiercesome reputation.  In business and in battle, people knew they were in trouble if they were up against her.  Now, I personally feel that her reputation is being diminished into someone who cries over her relationship every 5 minutes.  The White Queen should be renamed the Wet Blanket :p  When Jean comes back (and we all know she will), then she & Emma should both walk out on Cyclops & set up their own team ;) "

I'd cry tears of absolute joy if that ever happened.
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#48 Posted by Foreverbbyily (244 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gene_Pool said:
"@xerox-kitty said:
"I used to like Emm'a fiercesome reputation.  In business and in battle, people knew they were in trouble if they were up against her.  Now, I personally feel that her reputation is being diminished into someone who cries over her relationship every 5 minutes.  The White Queen should be renamed the Wet Blanket :p  When Jean comes back (and we all know she will), then she & Emma should both walk out on Cyclops & set up their own team ;) "
I'd cry tears of absolute joy if that ever happened. "

Emma should not team up with jean because she 
will be even more whiny she should go back to being the  
white q.  
scott has made emma soft
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#49 Posted by xerox_kitty (17340 posts) - - Show Bio
@Foreverbbyily said:
" @Gene_Pool said:
"@xerox-kitty said:
"I used to like Emm'a fiercesome reputation.  In business and in battle, people knew they were in trouble if they were up against her.  Now, I personally feel that her reputation is being diminished into someone who cries over her relationship every 5 minutes.  The White Queen should be renamed the Wet Blanket :p  When Jean comes back (and we all know she will), then she & Emma should both walk out on Cyclops & set up their own team ;) "
I'd cry tears of absolute joy if that ever happened. "
Emma should not team up with jean because she will be even more whiny she should go back to being the  white q.  scott has made emma soft "
Actually, under a decent writer (not someone like Matt 'What's Continuity?' Fraction) then they could compete with each other; pushing themselves further in an effort to out-shine the other.  Emma has always felt like she's lived in Jean's shadow, while Jean would recognise Emma as her replacement.  A strange relationship, but full of opportunity.  Certainly it would have more potential than the usual dribble that's currently in Uncanny.  There's only so many Cyclops & Emma in the bedroom, and Emma's crying moments I can take.
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#50 Posted by Silver Knight75 (1250 posts) - - Show Bio

She's not exactly the most trustworthy of the team.

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