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    Concept » Dragon Ball Universe appears in 185 issues.

    The shared universe between some of the works of Akira Toriyama such as Dragonball, Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, Dr Slump, Neko Majin, and other one shot mangas.

    Broly (M8) or (M10) vs Bojack, Android 13, Frieza and Super Perfect Cell

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    Shintakie

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    @gaoron said:

    @Shintakie: Wrong. Gohan stated in movie 10 that he is stronger than in cell games.

    Brolly stomps this team easly

    Brolly LSS >> Gohan SS2 (movie 10) > Kid Gohan SS2 > SPC =/> Kid Gohan SS2 (at 50% of power) =/> Bojack >> Android 13 >> Namek Frieza

    You definitely have your timeline wrong here. Movie 8 happens before the Cell games, not after, meaning he'd yet to unlock SSJ2 at that point. His line in Movie 10 about being substantially stronger is compared to how he was in movie 8, where he didn't even have access to SSJ2 yet.

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    #52  Edited By nilok

    @Shintakie: ...He was in base form when he was comparing himself. You don't get a power boost for being in base form.

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    @Shintakie: What access to ss2 have to do with anything? Its a multplier, it doesnt change base power. And Gohan never train or get power up after leaving RoSaT. Gohan in Movie 8 is the same Gohan that fought Cell in Cell games.

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    @rukelnikovftw: Broly beat a SSJ2 Gohan that was weaker than the one I meant. I was talking about Gohan during the Cell Games. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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    @legendarysaiyan: He wasn't much lower than his teen self, and by how Broly curbed him, he would still have beaten teen gohan

    Broly >>> SSJ2 Buu Gohan = SPC

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    @rukelnikovftw: when you say SSJ2 Buu Gohan, you mean pre Z sword gohan right?

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    cell stomps .-.

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    For the sake of this fight I'll say Gohan was SSJ2 in movie 10.

    Assuming Broly isn't killed before going LSSJ, it comes down to SPC and LSSJ Broly. Based off Broly's pretty convincing fight with Gohan, Broly might be stronger than Cell. As the two engage in hand to hand combat, Cell realizes he is outmatched and pulls back. Then Cell makes his Cell Jrs. To distract Broly while he thinks of a strategy. Broly of course easily dispatches of the Cell Jrs. and charges up an omega blaster, destroying most of Cell. To Broly's surprise Cell regenerates, and thanks to his saiyan traits, he is stronger than ever. Broly charges up an Eraser Cannon, but just before it hits Cell, Cell uses instant transmission and appears above Broly, with a fully charged Kamehameha. Broly has no time to react as the beam slams into him, eventually pushing him into the core of New Namek, killing him, destroying New Namek and the entire system itself, leaving Cell the winner.

    When Gohan says he is stronger than his M8 self, he is referring to FPSSJ Gohan, not SSJ2 Gohan. And while Broly might be stronger than Cell, Cell is comprised of some of the greatest fighters in the universe, and knows all their techniques. Along with his hax regen, Cell is a far more skilledfighter.

    what would really happen

    bojack, cell and broccoli would all c dat they r all green, and become best friends. then they kill super 13 and frieza

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    Strongest to weakest

    1. SPC Cell

    2. M9 Bojack

    3. M10 Brolly

    4. M8 Brolly

    5. Super 13

    6. Frieza ( i assume namek frieza)

    so cell wins

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    #60  Edited By nilok

    @jplaya2023: So according to your list, a solar system buster is stronger than a galaxy or a 1/4th universe buster depending if you are using the English or Japanese translation respectively. Cool.

    @nilok said:

    "The South Galaxy has been shattered" - Narrator.

    "...even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed!" - King Kai.

    "Mm. He's already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy" - King Kai.

    "You're the one who destroyed the Southern Galaxy, ain't you Broly?" - Goku

    "If we don't defeat him, it's the end of the universe!" - Piccolo.

    It is important to note that King Kai does not have a single galaxy to his name, he oversees the North Area of the universe. However, most English translations of Dragon Ball Z call it the North Galaxy instead of the North Universe or Northern Area to reduce confusion of what "North" they are talking about.

    Furthermore, it is heavily implied that Broly is a major threat to the survival of the universe as a whole, and seeing how Broly has a mortal lifespan, being a risk to the whole universe with billions and billions and billions of stars is nuts, especially if he is destroying them piecemeal. For Broly to destroy a minimum of four galaxies, assuming that they literally meant the universe was made of four galaxies, he would need to destroy 21 million solar systems a day, or 243.7 solar systems per second, for every day, without rest, without eating.

    We know that the Dragon Ball universe is a macroverse on the same scale as ours, so Broly being even considered a threat to the universe is really scary. Buu has eternity to destroy the universe being an ageless force. Broly on the other hand, being 37, has between 33-53 years on average to destroy the universe.

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    I have also confirmed where this picture is sourced from, Daizenshuu #7

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    @rukelnikovftw: when you say SSJ2 Buu Gohan, you mean pre Z sword gohan right?

    That's the only SSJ2 Gohan there was in Buu saga


    Strongest to weakest

    1. SPC Cell

    2. M9 Bojack

    3. M10 Brolly

    4. M8 Brolly

    5. Super 13

    6. Frieza ( i assume namek frieza)

    so cell wins

    Riiiight... Cell is at least debatable, Bojack? Lol, M10 Broly was without too much effort overpowering the combined Kamehameha of Gohan, Goku and Goten, SPC was stalemating Gohan...

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    @rukelnikovftw: gohan was weaker in m10 than he was in m9. Base gohan was giving m10 brolly a fight while ssj1 gohan was struggling against bojack and his gang

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    @jplaya2023: So? SSJ2 Gohan almost one shoted Bojack, and was thorougly trounced by Broly

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    @rukelnikovftw: gohan was WEAKER when he fought brolly in M10 and Brolly is weaker than bojack since he lost to a weaker gohan.

    kid gohan >>> teen gohan

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    @rukelnikovftw: gohan was WEAKER when he fought brolly in M10 and Brolly is weaker than bojack since he lost to a weaker gohan.

    kid gohan >>> teen gohan

    Please read the thread before bringing up old points.

    @nilok said:

    Here is the excerpt from Movie 10 with Gohan stating that he is stronger than he was in Movie 8, and still not strong enough to face SSJ Broly. The movies do not take place in the same timeline as the anime/manga, as the power levels do not match any in canon context, ie. power level 30,000 base Goku in Tree of Might, when his power level was 8,000+ in the Saiyan Saga and 90,000 in the Namek Saga.

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