There is only one Batman, and it's not Dick Grayson.
Dick Grayson
Character » Dick Grayson appears in 9487 issues.
As the first Robin, Dick Grayson was the most famous sidekick in comic book history. As he ventured forth on his own, he formed the Teen Titans and became their leader. When the boy became a man, he became the independent hero known as Nightwing.
Do you prefer Dick Grayson as Nightwing or Batman
I like Dick as Batman, it was his only logical step his team mates have taken over for there mentors, Wally for Barry, Donna did for Dianna for a bit, Roy became Red Arrow, and even Tempest was king of Atlantis after Arthur. And if you remember the story of how Nightwing got the name from superman(Nightwing: Year One) Superman told him of a man cast out by his friends and family who rose above it and helped people basically. Well Dick isn't cast out of the family, he's been closer to Bruce,Tim,Alfred and basically everybody in the DCU. He's outgrown the role of Nightwing, Bruce will see that, Dick is an equal.
I agree that Dick is Bruce equal or is going to be. I think people who just like Bruce isn't ready for change.
Grayson has done a fine job as Batman but I'll always think of him as Nightwing.
He's better as Nightwing. And no, he's not as good as Bruce. He hasn't come close to showing himself equal yet. Anyone thinking otherwise hasn't been reading enough comics.
I don't see how Dick can outgrow his own persona, nor how he can ever equal Bruce.
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Dick was raised to take over for Bruce when Bruce died. He was raised to be Batman 2. Now he is. Makes sense he stay Batman. Being Nightwing was his immature way of growing up out of Bruce's shadow. I say immature because It was obvious to everyone that he was the first Robin and few take him seriously because he looks like Batman Lite. I think now that Bruce is alive Dick can be Batman in his own way with a suit that better suits him. Something more Batman Beyond/ Nightwing and less heavy cape/ silver age batman blue and grey.
i think that the stupidest thing is when bruce comes back in october is that he decides one batman isnt enough so they both r batmen
"Grayson has done a fine job as Batman but I'll always think of him as Nightwing. "
for lack of originality i say ditto
I agree it's the "natural" progression for him to take over the Batman moniker, but I personally will always think of Dick as Nightwing. It's the same thing with Tim Drake; he might call himself Red Robin now, but he'll always be Robin to me (and my personal favorite Robin, btw).
"There is only one Batman, and it's not Dick Grayson. "
agreed and he was way better as nightwing
"He's better as Nightwing. And no, he's not as good as Bruce. He hasn't come close to showing himself equal yet. Anyone thinking otherwise hasn't been reading enough comics. "
Agreed
Dick isn't Batman. He's just a guy wearing the suit. He doesn't have the mentality to be the Batman.
@daredevil21134 said:
" @Crom-Cruach said:"He's better as Nightwing. And no, he's not as good as Bruce. He hasn't come close to showing himself equal yet. Anyone thinking otherwise hasn't been reading enough comics. "Agreed "
Seconded.
agree" i think that the stupidest thing is when bruce comes back in october is that he decides one batman isnt enough so they both r batmen "
Dick is doing fine as batman even bruce would have gone through hell with gothams current state but i would have loved if dick wouldve done things as Nightwing. Its the identity he created for himself as such theres nothing wrong with staying that way but being who you were meant to be isnt bad either.
I think he's doing a great job as Batman. Even when Bruce needed some time off after the fiasco with Bane, Dick did a great job.
However, I like him as Nightwing. No one can be Nightwing like he can.
"i think that the stupidest thing is when bruce comes back in october is that he decides one batman isnt enough so they both r batmen "
I know. There should only be one Batman.
No,Nightwing is way better suits his personality way better Bruce Wayne is an original character and wouldn,t be right if Dick Grayson took his place as Batman
Well actually I like him as both really but he just can't stay as Batman forever because I do believe that there is only 1 Batman Bruce Wayne!! Anyways Im a in between !!
"@nightwing0001 said:"i think that the stupidest thing is when bruce comes back in october is that he decides one batman isnt enough so they both r batmen "I know. There should only be one Batman. "
I agree that Dick is the natural replacement for Batman. But he's not a replacement anymore, because Bruce is back. And Bruce still works in Gotham, too, it's not like he's always somewhere else and Dick NEEDS to stay Batman for Gotham's sake. He needs to train Damian, you say? Why not train him as Nightwing? He did the same with Tim. It's stupid having two of them, how would that work out in the field? Say Batman, Batman and Robin are out on a mission?
Damian: "Batman, look out behind you!"
*Bruce and Dick share a puzzled look*
"I agree that Dick is the natural replacement for Batman. But he's not a replacement anymore, because Bruce is back. And Bruce still works in Gotham, too, it's not like he's always somewhere else and Dick NEEDS to stay Batman for Gotham's sake. He needs to train Damian, you say? Why not train him as Nightwing? He did the same with Tim. It's stupid having two of them, how would that work out in the field? Say Batman, Batman and Robin are out on a mission? Damian: "Batman, look out behind you!" *Bruce and Dick share a puzzled look* "
LOL...agreed
Since when was Dick equal to Bruce? The only people that say so are just plain Batman haters that just want Batman taken down a notch by being replaced. No one who's favorite character is Batman wants him replaced or want him to be one of multiple. It seems Dick is usually the favorite Batman character of people that do not like Batman.
"@Crom-Cruach said:"He's better as Nightwing. And no, he's not as good as Bruce. He hasn't come close to showing himself equal yet. Anyone thinking otherwise hasn't been reading enough comics. "Agreed "
Agreed to you agreeing.
I agree Dick Grayson is an amazing NightWing or Even an awesome ROBIN ... and a Good batman
But I think Jason Todd should be the NEW BATMAN :D
"Since when was Dick equal to Bruce? The only people that say so are just plain Batman haters that just want Batman taken down a notch by being replaced. No one who's favorite character is Batman wants him replaced or want him to be one of multiple. It seems Dick is usually the favorite Batman character of people that do not like Batman. "
Dick Grayson will always be subordinate to Batman, but due to legacy rather than character strength. But Dick's continued tenure as the Batman of Gotham should be encouraged as an opportunity for character development and much-needed cleanup, especially after the lackluster Nightwing arcs helmed by Devin Grayson and Bruce Jones.
Grayson benefits from this in various other ways, especially in the costume department. For the longest stretch of time, the lone member of the Bat-Family without a costume was Nightwing, who, as a result, suffered in terms of legitimacy. Bruce, Cassandra, and Tim all shared similarites as far wearing the cape and on-patrol demeanor. Nightwing writers, however, excised the cape in favor of flips and pretty-boy looks, to the point where that's all the character became known for.
And there HAVE been positive results from Dick's continued run as Batman. Red Robin, Batgirl, and Scott Snyder's Detective Comics are a few gems in the current Batman Inc. era.
Personally it doesn't matter to me. I like Dick as Nightwing or as Batman, but I can see why people personally like Dick as Nightwing more. But hey, I also like the idea of Batman Inc. so having two Batmen isn't that big of a deal to me.
I absolutely loved that Dick was Batman for a while. It was a necessary step for the character, and it showed us some great character development on Dick's part.
But leaving Dick as Batman forever just wouldn't work. Bruce Wayne as Batman is one of those things that just doesn't go away forever. But I'm glad for the little time we did see of Dick as Batman.
I only wish that some of Dick's experiences as Batman had been incorporated into his return to being Nightwing. Dang New 52.
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