THOSE AREN'T BONE CLAWS!
Did he get the adamantium skeleton too?
Is hard for me to read the comics so I'm always surprised :P
Daken
Character » Daken appears in 1163 issues.
Daken is Wolverine's long lost son, torn from his mother's womb by the dark figure Romulus. Raised with a warped view on his father's "abandonment" and his mother's murder, Daken was left holding a grudge.
Adamantium Skeleton?
actually it's little more then that....
"Nobody said:Possible but given his dads mutation unlikely"His claws are still bone for now.I always thought they were keratin because of their black color. "
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"Nobody said:They could be, but I don't think they have stated to be anything other than bone."His claws are still bone for now.I always thought they were keratin because of their black color. "
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Not really nothing else about Daken is different from Wolverine and actually isn't bone harder than keratin so wouldn't that mean Daken is maybe not better
Well either way that still doesn't mean Dakens claws are made of Keratin nor do we really now how hard his claws are and Wolverine's bones claws have torn through steel too so the real question is are Daken's claws harder than Wolverines bone claws
"Well either way that still doesn't mean Dakens claws are made of Keratin nor do we really now how hard his claws are and Wolverine's bones claws have torn through steel too so the real question is are Daken's claws harder than Wolverines bone claws"Well it is true that we do not know what his claws are made of, but bones do not have a tendency to be black. It is also true that Wolverine has torn through steel before but it has also been stated that his bones are much more dense than a normal human being. Why would evolution bother with making Daken's claws keratin then? Well probably the same reason the process of evolution does anything, to make things easier and better. Keratin is much easier to produce than bone, it is stronger, and more flexible.
"Midnightist said:His bio in the Dark Reign Files just says "claws", it doesn't state what they are made out of."Well either way that still doesn't mean Dakens claws are made of Keratin nor do we really now how hard his claws are and Wolverine's bones claws have torn through steel too so the real question is are Daken's claws harder than Wolverines bone claws"Well it is true that we do not know what his claws are made of, but bones do not have a tendency to be black. It is also true that Wolverine has torn through steel before but it has also been stated that his bones are much more dense than a normal human being. Why would evolution bother with making Daken's claws keratin then? Well probably the same reason the process of evolution does anything, to make things easier and better. Keratin is much easier to produce than bone, it is stronger, and more flexible. "
Although that may be true we also have to remember that even tho must of the time his claws are drawn black that doesn't really mean they will stay that way. Till some in reality explanation is given they could turn gold for all we know. Second I remember reading that Wolverine has a unique mutation and that he keeps slowly evolving and we don't know how that has affected Daken's power levels but since I'm using that example I also remember reading that the adamantium slowed the evolution so he should be stronger than he is know but since Daken never had the adamantium we can assume if they same rules applied he should be far stronger than Wolverine via raw power.
Has he lost his mohawk yet? technically, his hair should be growing back any time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is.
"Although that may be true we also have to remember that even tho must of the time his claws are drawn black that doesn't really mean they will stay that way. Till some in reality explanation is given they could turn gold for all we know. Second I remember reading that Wolverine has a unique mutation and that he keeps slowly evolving and we don't know how that has affected Daken's power levels but since I'm using that example I also remember reading that the adamantium slowed the evolution so he should be stronger than he is know but since Daken never had the adamantium we can assume if they same rules applied he should be far stronger than Wolverine via raw power."The adamantium stopped the evolution process completely. Wolverine lived more years without adamantium than Daken has even been alive. If Daken has the same evolutionary power, then he is not better than Wolverine in any way. Maybe one day he will but not right now. The keratin explanation I had given is clearly just speculation. There are no solid sources I have to back it up. I am just using logic and evolutionary theory.
"Has he lost his mohawk yet? technically, his hair should be growing back any time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is.No
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That was the point I was trying to make as an example of Daken not being the next step of evolution and of course I know its speculation but what's the fun in that if there's no debate lol
"Has he lost his mohawk yet? technically, his hair should be growing back any time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is.Maybe he shaves his head with carbonadium lol. No seriously though. There has been some inconsistency concerning hair growth with Wolverine and his ilk. Sabretooth for example has always had long hair. Then when Weapon X gave him the adamantium skeleton, he had a short style for the duration of his stay with Weapon X. Even beyond for a time. He even had tattoos, which should not have been allowed with his healing factor. Daken has a unique style and tattoos as well. I often wonder if the healing factor is controlled at least on a subconscious level.
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"White Mage said:Maybe he got the tattoo before he gained his healing factor."Has he lost his mohawk yet? technically, his hair should be growing back any time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is.Maybe he shaves his head with carbonadium lol. No seriously though. There has been some inconsistency concerning hair growth with Wolverine and his ilk. Sabretooth for example has always had long hair. Then when Weapon X gave him the adamantium skeleton, he had a short style for the duration of his stay with Weapon X. Even beyond for a time. He even had tattoos, which should not have been allowed with his healing factor. Daken has a unique style and tattoos as well. I often wonder if the healing factor is controlled at least on a subconscious level."
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"erik said:Unless he is a mutate, that means he would've had to have gotten it before he was 11-12 years old."White Mage said:Maybe he got the tattoo before he gained his healing factor."Has he lost his mohawk yet? technically, his hair should be growing back any time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is.Maybe he shaves his head with carbonadium lol. No seriously though. There has been some inconsistency concerning hair growth with Wolverine and his ilk. Sabretooth for example has always had long hair. Then when Weapon X gave him the adamantium skeleton, he had a short style for the duration of his stay with Weapon X. Even beyond for a time. He even had tattoos, which should not have been allowed with his healing factor. Daken has a unique style and tattoos as well. I often wonder if the healing factor is controlled at least on a subconscious level."
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"He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
"Midnightist said:Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday."He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
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"Nobody said:Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?"Midnightist said:Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday."He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
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"Actually now that I think of it Daken having a healing factor means he's not a mutant at all"Huh?
"White Mage said:It depends, does Wolverine have a scar that won't heal?"Nobody said:Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?"Midnightist said:Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday."He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
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Midnightist said:
"Actually now that I think of it Daken having a healing factor means he's not a mutant at all"..........................what now?
"Nobody said:Wolverine gained his powers at a very young age though. Wasn't he still a child?"White Mage said:It depends, does Wolverine have a scar that won't heal?"Nobody said:Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?"Midnightist said:Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday."He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
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A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier.
"White Mage said:Not really sure."Nobody said:Wolverine gained his powers at a very young age though. Wasn't he still a child?"White Mage said:It depends, does Wolverine have a scar that won't heal?"Nobody said:Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?"Midnightist said:Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday."He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
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Not a baby I think he was maybe 10
Wolverine gained his powers at a very young age though. Wasn't he still a child?
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"Midnightist said:"He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."Maybe he uses magic marker O_O
@Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure
one of those sickos would have given him a tat.Which brings me back to the subconscious control aspect. When Wolverine was shaved during the adamantium bonding process, he grew his hair back in twenty minutes. Wolverine issue #59 volume #1, he shaved his head to go undercover and grew his hair back by the end of the story arc. Which would be inconsistent with the previous showing unless we go back to the subconscious control aspect. Deadpool has his healing factor from Wolverine and he has some level of control over the healing. I found this particular piece of information interesting.
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"A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
"Midnightist said:But she may also fall under that same species as well and Damian stated he was this other species because he had his powers from birth like Jaime and Daken only a theory thought but it seems right."A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
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"A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."Mutants also can have their powers manifest during stressful times. The condition of his birth was probably extremely stressful.
"Nobody said:It seems to only be a theory though, even when Jamie talks about it. There is no real evidence to support it. As long as they hold the "X-Gene" they are mutants."Midnightist said:But she may also fall under that same species as well and Damian stated he was this other species because he had his powers from birth like Jaime and Daken only a theory thought but it seems right.""A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
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"Midnightist said:Then they should all have powers at birth but it requires emotional stress as well child can't understand whats happening to them"A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."Mutants also can have their powers manifest during stressful times. The condition of his birth was probably extremely stressful. "
"Midnightist said:True. Plus Jamie is not a scientist. He could have just been making that nonsense up because it suited his ego."Nobody said:It seems to only be a theory though, even when Jamie talks about it. There is no real evidence to support it. As long as they hold the "X-Gene" they are mutants."Midnightist said:But she may also fall under that same species as well and Damian stated he was this other species because he had his powers from birth like Jaime and Daken only a theory thought but it seems right.""A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
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Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene
"Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene"This is a possibility but then what of Nightcrawler and Beast? I would have assumed this theory if correct, would have been discussed with the house scientists such as Beast and Professor Xavier.
"Midnightist said:Very true, Nightcrawler was born a freak."Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene"This is a possibility but then what of Nightcrawler and Beast? I would have assumed this theory if correct, would have been discussed with the house scientists such as Beast and Professor Xavier."
Well Nightcrawler may fit the bill but now I'm seeing it more as just artistic license than something new. That would be fun talking to Beast and Prof.X
"erik said:Yup. Beast as well."Midnightist said:Very true, Nightcrawler was born a freak."Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene"This is a possibility but then what of Nightcrawler and Beast? I would have assumed this theory if correct, would have been discussed with the house scientists such as Beast and Professor Xavier."
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