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    Character » Daken appears in 1163 issues.

    Daken is Wolverine's long lost son, torn from his mother's womb by the dark figure Romulus. Raised with a warped view on his father's "abandonment" and his mother's murder, Daken was left holding a grudge.

    Adamantium Skeleton?

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    The Wondering Spider

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    THOSE AREN'T BONE CLAWS!

    Did he get the adamantium skeleton too?

     Is hard for me to read the comics so I'm always surprised :P
     

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    #2  Edited By danhimself

    no those are bone claws

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    #3  Edited By SUNMAN
    danhimself said:
    "no those are bone claws"

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    They look metallic to me O_O

    rubs his eyes


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    #5  Edited By danhimself

    i wouldn't be surprised if he did somehow get his claws coated at some point soon though

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    #6  Edited By Daredevilfan182

    No doubt those are probably coated.

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    #7  Edited By Legacy_

    If you look at the solicts for Wolverine Origins for this April and May Wolverine is trying to stop Daken from going through the experimentation that gave Logan his adamantium claws

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    #8  Edited By danhimself

    actually it's little more then that....

    SPOILERS







    daken's trying to get the blade that logan used to kill sabretooth so that way daken can use the metal of the blade to coat his claws
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    Don't see the pic. And this sounds like X-23. Only the claws are coated.

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    #10  Edited By The_Martian

    His claws are still bone for now.

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    #11  Edited By Erik
    Nobody said:
    "His claws are still bone for now.
    "
    I always thought they were keratin because of their black color. 
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    #12  Edited By Midnightist
    erik said:
    "Nobody said:
    "His claws are still bone for now.
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    I always thought they were keratin because of their black color. 
    "
    Possible but given his dads mutation unlikely 
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    #13  Edited By The_Martian
    erik said:
    "Nobody said:
    "His claws are still bone for now.
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    I always thought they were keratin because of their black color. 
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    They could be, but I don't think they have stated to be anything other than bone.
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    #14  Edited By Erik
    Midnightist said:
    "erik said:
    "Nobody said:
    "His claws are still bone for now.
    "
    I always thought they were keratin because of their black color. 
    "
    Possible but given his dads mutation unlikely 
    "
    I do not see how. Daken would be the next step in an evolutionary process.
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    #15  Edited By Midnightist

    Not really nothing else about Daken is different from Wolverine and actually isn't bone harder than keratin so wouldn't that mean Daken is maybe not better

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    #16  Edited By Erik
    Midnightist said:
    "Not really nothing else about Daken is different from Wolverine and actually isn't bone harder than keratin so wouldn't that mean Daken is maybe not better"
    Keratin is much stronger than bone. Pound for pound, keratin is stronger than steel. 
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    #17  Edited By Midnightist

    Well either way that still doesn't mean Dakens claws are made of Keratin nor do we really now how hard his claws are and Wolverine's bones claws have torn through steel too so the real question is are Daken's claws harder than Wolverines bone claws

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    #18  Edited By Erik
    Midnightist said:
    "Well either way that still doesn't mean Dakens claws are made of Keratin nor do we really now how hard his claws are and Wolverine's bones claws have torn through steel too so the real question is are Daken's claws harder than Wolverines bone claws"
    Well it is true that we do not know what his claws are made of, but bones do not have a tendency to be black. It is also true that Wolverine has torn through steel before but it has also been stated that his bones are much more dense than a normal human being. Why would evolution bother with making Daken's claws keratin then? Well probably the same reason the process of evolution does anything, to make things easier and better. Keratin is much easier to produce than bone, it is stronger, and more flexible. 
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    #19  Edited By The_Martian
    erik said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "Well either way that still doesn't mean Dakens claws are made of Keratin nor do we really now how hard his claws are and Wolverine's bones claws have torn through steel too so the real question is are Daken's claws harder than Wolverines bone claws"
    Well it is true that we do not know what his claws are made of, but bones do not have a tendency to be black. It is also true that Wolverine has torn through steel before but it has also been stated that his bones are much more dense than a normal human being. Why would evolution bother with making Daken's claws keratin then? Well probably the same reason the process of evolution does anything, to make things easier and better. Keratin is much easier to produce than bone, it is stronger, and more flexible. 
    "
    His bio in the Dark Reign Files just says "claws", it doesn't state what they are made out of.
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    #20  Edited By Midnightist

    Although that may be true we also have to remember that even tho must of the time his claws are drawn black that doesn't really mean they will stay that way. Till some in reality explanation is given they could turn gold for all we know. Second I remember reading that Wolverine has a unique mutation and that he keeps slowly evolving and we don't know how that has affected Daken's power levels but since I'm using that example I also remember reading that the adamantium slowed the evolution so he should be stronger than he is know but since Daken never had the adamantium we can assume if they same rules applied he should be far stronger than Wolverine via raw power.

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    #21  Edited By WARLOCK2792

    Has he lost his mohawk yet?  technically, his hair should be growing back any  time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is. 

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    #22  Edited By Erik
    Midnightist said:
    "Although that may be true we also have to remember that even tho must of the time his claws are drawn black that doesn't really mean they will stay that way. Till some in reality explanation is given they could turn gold for all we know. Second I remember reading that Wolverine has a unique mutation and that he keeps slowly evolving and we don't know how that has affected Daken's power levels but since I'm using that example I also remember reading that the adamantium slowed the evolution so he should be stronger than he is know but since Daken never had the adamantium we can assume if they same rules applied he should be far stronger than Wolverine via raw power."
    The adamantium stopped the evolution process completely. Wolverine lived more years without adamantium than Daken has even been alive. If Daken has the same evolutionary power, then he is not better than Wolverine in any way. Maybe one day he will but not right now. The keratin explanation I had given is clearly just speculation. There are no solid sources I have to back it up. I am just using logic and evolutionary theory. 
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    #23  Edited By The_Martian
    White Mage said:
    "Has he lost his mohawk yet?  technically, his hair should be growing back any  time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is. 
    "
    No
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    #24  Edited By Midnightist

    That was the point I was trying to make as an example of Daken not being the next step of evolution and of course I know its speculation but what's the fun in that if there's no debate lol

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    #25  Edited By Erik
    White Mage said:
    "Has he lost his mohawk yet?  technically, his hair should be growing back any  time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is. 
    "
    Maybe he shaves his head with carbonadium lol. No seriously though. There has been some inconsistency concerning hair growth with Wolverine and his ilk. Sabretooth for example has always had long hair. Then when Weapon X gave him the adamantium skeleton, he had a short style for the duration of his stay with Weapon X. Even beyond for a time. He even had tattoos, which should not have been allowed with his healing factor. Daken has a unique style and tattoos as well. I often wonder if the healing factor is controlled at least on a subconscious level.
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    #26  Edited By The_Martian
    erik said:
    "White Mage said:
    "Has he lost his mohawk yet?  technically, his hair should be growing back any  time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is. 
    "
    Maybe he shaves his head with carbonadium lol. No seriously though. There has been some inconsistency concerning hair growth with Wolverine and his ilk. Sabretooth for example has always had long hair. Then when Weapon X gave him the adamantium skeleton, he had a short style for the duration of his stay with Weapon X. Even beyond for a time. He even had tattoos, which should not have been allowed with his healing factor. Daken has a unique style and tattoos as well. I often wonder if the healing factor is controlled at least on a subconscious level.
    "
    Maybe he got the tattoo before he gained his healing factor.
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    #27  Edited By Midnightist

    He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child.

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    #28  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    Nobody said:
    "erik said:
    "White Mage said:
    "Has he lost his mohawk yet?  technically, his hair should be growing back any  time soon, unless he's not as good at healing as his father is. 
    "
    Maybe he shaves his head with carbonadium lol. No seriously though. There has been some inconsistency concerning hair growth with Wolverine and his ilk. Sabretooth for example has always had long hair. Then when Weapon X gave him the adamantium skeleton, he had a short style for the duration of his stay with Weapon X. Even beyond for a time. He even had tattoos, which should not have been allowed with his healing factor. Daken has a unique style and tattoos as well. I often wonder if the healing factor is controlled at least on a subconscious level.
    "
    Maybe he got the tattoo before he gained his healing factor.
    "
    Unless he is a mutate, that means he would've had to have gotten it before he was 11-12 years old.
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    #29  Edited By The_Martian
    Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
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    #30  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
    "
    Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday.
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    #31  Edited By Midnightist

    Actually now that I think of it Daken having a healing factor means he's not a mutant at all

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    #32  Edited By The_Martian
    White Mage said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
    "
    Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday.
    "
    Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?
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    #33  Edited By The_Martian
    Midnightist said:
    "Actually now that I think of it Daken having a healing factor means he's not a mutant at all"
    Huh?
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    #34  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    Nobody said:
    "White Mage said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
    "
    Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday.
    "
    Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?
    "
    It depends, does Wolverine have a scar that won't heal? 

    Midnightist said:
    "Actually now that I think of it Daken having a healing factor means he's not a mutant at all"
    ..........................what now?

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    #35  Edited By The_Martian
    White Mage said:
    "Nobody said:
    "White Mage said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
    "
    Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday.
    "
    Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?
    "
    It depends, does Wolverine have a scar that won't heal? 
    "
    Wolverine gained his powers at a very young age though. Wasn't he still a child?
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    #36  Edited By Midnightist

    A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier.

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    #37  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    Nobody said:
    "White Mage said:
    "Nobody said:
    "White Mage said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
    "
    Which technically would've healed by his 11-12th birthday.
    "
    Would it heal wounds though that have already healed on their own, before he had his power?
    "
    It depends, does Wolverine have a scar that won't heal? 
    "
    Wolverine gained his powers at a very young age though. Wasn't he still a child?
    "
    Not really sure. 
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    #38  Edited By Midnightist
    Nobody said:

    Wolverine gained his powers at a very young age though. Wasn't he still a child?
    "
    Not a baby I think he was maybe 10
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    #39  Edited By Erik
    Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "He was born with his healing factor it saved him as a child."
    Maybe he uses magic marker O_O

    @Mage: I know, but you never know. He was raised by killers, I'm sure
    one of those sickos would have given him a tat.
    "
    Which brings me back to the subconscious control aspect. When Wolverine was shaved during the adamantium bonding process, he grew his hair back in twenty minutes. Wolverine issue #59 volume #1, he shaved his head to go undercover and grew his hair back by the end of the story arc. Which would be inconsistent with the previous showing unless we go back to the subconscious control aspect. Deadpool has his healing factor from Wolverine and he has some level of control over the healing. I found this particular piece of information interesting. 
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    #40  Edited By The_Martian
    Midnightist said:
    "A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."
    A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
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    #41  Edited By Midnightist
    Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."
    A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
    "
    But she may also fall under that same species as well and Damian stated he was this other species because he had his powers from birth like Jaime and Daken only a theory thought but it seems right.
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    #42  Edited By Erik
    Midnightist said:
    "A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."
    Mutants also can have their powers manifest during stressful times. The condition of his birth was probably extremely stressful. 
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    #43  Edited By The_Martian
    Midnightist said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."
    A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
    "
    But she may also fall under that same species as well and Damian stated he was this other species because he had his powers from birth like Jaime and Daken only a theory thought but it seems right.
    "
    It seems to only be a theory though, even when Jamie talks about it. There is no real evidence to support it. As long as they hold the "X-Gene" they are mutants.
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    #44  Edited By Midnightist
    erik said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."
    Mutants also can have their powers manifest during stressful times. The condition of his birth was probably extremely stressful. 
    "
    Then they should all have powers at birth but it requires emotional stress as well  child can't understand whats happening to them
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    #45  Edited By Erik
    Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "A mutant by definition has to have their powers appear at puberty 12-13 and not only that times of stress but Damian Tryp and Jaime Madrox had their powers since birth. Damian told Jaime that that meant they where a species known as changlings who predated mutants. Daken was born with his powers it saved him from his mom being killed by Winter Soldier."
    A mutant doesn't have to have gain his powers during puberty. Most due though. Look at Messiah Complex, with the Baby Mutant. Jaime has stated that he may not be a mutant, but that doesn't mean Daken isn't just cause he was born with his powers.
    "
    But she may also fall under that same species as well and Damian stated he was this other species because he had his powers from birth like Jaime and Daken only a theory thought but it seems right.
    "
    It seems to only be a theory though, even when Jamie talks about it. There is no real evidence to support it. As long as they hold the "X-Gene" they are mutants.
    "
    True. Plus Jamie is not a scientist. He could have just been making that nonsense up because it suited his ego. 
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    #46  Edited By Midnightist

    Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene

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    #47  Edited By Erik
    Midnightist said:
    "Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene"
    This is a possibility but then what of Nightcrawler and Beast? I would have assumed this theory if correct, would have been discussed with the house scientists such as Beast and Professor Xavier.
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    #48  Edited By The_Martian
    erik said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene"
    This is a possibility but then what of Nightcrawler and Beast? I would have assumed this theory if correct, would have been discussed with the house scientists such as Beast and Professor Xavier.
    "
    Very true, Nightcrawler was born a freak.
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    #49  Edited By Midnightist

    Well Nightcrawler may fit the bill but now I'm seeing it more as just artistic license than something new. That would be fun talking to Beast and Prof.X

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    #50  Edited By Erik
    Nobody said:
    "erik said:
    "Midnightist said:
    "Either way the fact of when his powers emerged seems to say he is something different from most mutants and if he is an evolved mutant he would still have the x-gene"
    This is a possibility but then what of Nightcrawler and Beast? I would have assumed this theory if correct, would have been discussed with the house scientists such as Beast and Professor Xavier.
    "
    Very true, Nightcrawler was born a freak.
    "
    Yup. Beast as well.

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