Witchblade - Don't know her upper limits.

Spawn - Depends a lot on which version. At his highest I'd say Transcendent.

Ninja Turtles - High Street Level but I can see Low Meta

Dynamo 5 - All of them Low Meta (Captain Dynamo probably High Meta but that's just a guess since we don't see him)

Danger Girl - Don't know.

Ballistic - High Street

Velocity - Mid Meta

Heatwave - Don't know.

Cyblade - Don't know.

Ripclaw - Low Meta

Stryker - Don't know.

Impact - Don't knww.

Darkness - Varies. At highest I'd say Mid (or possibly High?) Herald.

Lara Croft - High Street

Aspen - Low Herald

Cannon and Kiani - High Meta

Grace - Not sure.

Sara doesn't have the witchblade anymore so without it she'd be low street

Danger Girl are Abbey Chase, Sydney Savage, Natalia Kassle. They'd be low street.

Heatwave - low meta

Cyblade - low meta

Stryker - high street

Grace - middle meta

Didn't know she doesn't have it. How high do you think she'd be if she did? We could put "(w/ Witchblade)" next to her name and have two separate ones since she's known for it. I haven't read Danger Girl so that's all you. The rest of Cyberforce I didn't know but they're in the range of their team members (which I do know) so I guess that's good. I've read some Soulfire but I don't remember any kind of limit or range on Grace's magic so I didn't know where to put her. I think your rankings are good, what did you think of mine? Accurate? Any you think should be discussed before they get put in?

Anyone else with knowledge of these characters, feel free to chime in.

Post Edited:2007-05-09 03:07:45

Yeah I pretty much agreed with your rankings so I took on the ones you left out. Hmmm Sara with Witchblade I think she can be high meta. The Witchblade is on a new girl named Danielle Baptiste, but they're just barely starting her so not much is known. For Grace, I think middle is a good spot for now since nothings been revealed except that magic is the shit in that universe.

All this sounds good to me. Want me to change them now or should we wait to see if anyone has an opinion?

Just add it in now, if someone has any objection they can make their case and we can just move them around.

I'd say Abbey Chase and Natalia Kassle would be mid street as they're both secret agent/martial arts types, Sydney Savage low.

Black Widow and Robin are low so unless those 2 move up I don't think Abbey and Natalia should move up.

I propose to add a Jean with Phoenix in high herald since theres a Jean without Phoenix.

I'd say Black Widow should be mid too. She's no slouch either. Robin is still learning, which is why Nightwing is mid and he's low. To me, the high street level is for those who reach a level where by they are capable of superhuman feats, even though they have no super powers. Mid is for those who are highly skilled and dangerous. Masters of martial arts and the like. Low would be those who are training or have some skills, but have room for improvement.

That's my take on the rankings anyway, from the majority of people in them.

I noticed Zatanna is missing from the list. Not sure where she'd go though as different writers seem to have her at different levels.

Zatanna...

I'd put her at High metahuman...

she can alter pretty much anything she wants, even Batman considers her a threat...

Mid to High Metahuman, depending on the writer

Ted

She's at High Meta, if anyone disagrees, put it here.

High meta seems about right. In theory she could be much higher, but she's rarely, if ever, written that high.

sounds good... and she's one of the few superheroines that constantly wears fishnets lol

M

Deathurge has been quite depowered in the GLA mini, i think he's still a squirrel.

Also isn't Ares (Marvel) almost as powerful as Thor? I havent read that many appearances by him, but that's my impression.

Edward says:

"sounds good... and she's one of the few superheroines that constantly wears fishnets lol M"

If you think her normal outfit is libidinous, you should see her in Seven Soldiers or Superman #662. She's only wearing the top hat in part of Everyday Magic....

fesak says:

"Also isn't Ares (Marvel) almost as powerful as Thor? I havent read that many appearances by him, but that's my impression."

I've only seen him in Mighty Avengers. So far he hasn't displayed that much power, though he is a god and probably has mid to high herald level powers. That said, probably isn't proof.

fesak says:

"Deathurge has been quite depowered in the GLA mini, i think he's still a squirrel.Also isn't Ares (Marvel) almost as powerful as Thor? I havent read that many appearances by him, but that's my impression."

He's probably (haven't seen it yet, just guessing) physically as powerful, being the god of war and all, but he doesn't have (or hasn't shown) the magic Thor does.

Cosmic Sentinel says:

"Edward says:

"sounds good... and she's one of the few superheroines that constantly wears fishnets lol M"

If you think her normal outfit is libidinous, you should see her in Seven Soldiers or Superman #662. She's only wearing the top hat in part of Everyday Magic...."

cool... have to dig that issue out

cheers for the heads up

Ted

Cosmic Sentinel says:

"fesak says:

"Also isn't Ares (Marvel) almost as powerful as Thor? I havent read that many appearances by him, but that's my impression."

I've only seen him in Mighty Avengers. So far he hasn't displayed that much power, though he is a god and probably has mid to high herald level powers. That said, probably isn't proof.

"

Hah, we said the same thing, but you typed faster.
Post Edited:2007-05-11 04:27:29

I haven't read the Ares mini, maybe someone who has could give some input.

Also I've read in an interview with Brian Bendis that his take on Ares would be like Thor with Wolverine's attitude and off the charts tactical and strategical genius since he is the God of War.

Buckshot says:

"Cosmic Sentinel says:

"fesak says:

"Also isn't Ares (Marvel) almost as powerful as Thor? I havent read that many appearances by him, but that's my impression."

I've only seen him in Mighty Avengers. So far he hasn't displayed that much power, though he is a god and probably has mid to high herald level powers. That said, probably isn't proof. "

Hah, we said the same thing, but you typed faster.
Post Edited:2007-05-11 04:27:29"

Fastest typer in the west.

I wish.

Why is Amazo in the Transcendant section if no one from the JLA is? Where is the extra power potential being credited from?

I have to question a few members honestly. I agree whole heartedly that Red Arrow should be in the same space as Ollie, the difference in skill is nominal as far as arrows are concerned, and you have to factor in his mastery of Moy Toi(sp) that allows him Bullseye type accuracy with all weapons. In what world are the Ninja Turtles in a higher teir than Nightwing??? That makes no since to me. Nova should definately be moved to the top-tier along with Supes and others. He showed in Annihilation that he has the powers for it and he's continued to operate at that level througout his series. Plus you have not only his powers, but also the worldmind. Then you have the GL's. Can you honestly explain how at this point you'd rate them differently?? John has probably logged as many hours in the JLA as Hal and Kyle, and Guy has had plenty of time to shine in GLC. Those two definately deserve to move up.

did i miss something or is Zantanna missing from the list he i would rank high as she is one of if not the most powerful characters i can think of that uses magic aside Dr. Strange