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    The Chaos King embodied the universe before anything existed. He is the nothingness from which everything sprang and the state to which it will someday return. While this may be an inevitable cycle, the Chaos King wished to destroy the multiverse before its time, hoping to ensure that it would never be able to recreate itself again.

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    #1  Edited By council elite

    What do you guys think so far?
     
    imo the writing is incredible as always & the art is simply amazing.
    i definitely recommend it =) 
     

    Checklist 

     

    October

    Chaos War #1 
    Chaos War #2  
     

    November

    Chaos War #3 
    Chaos War: Thor #1
    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #1
    Chaos War: Chaos King One-Shot
    Chaos War: Alpha Flight One-Shot 

    December

    Chaos War #4
    Incredible Hulks #618 
    Chaos War: God-Squad One-Shot
    Chaos War: Thor #2
    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #2
    Chaos War: X-Men #1   
    Incredible Hulks #619  
     

    January

    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #3
    Chaos War: X-Men #2
    Chaos War #5
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    #2  Edited By MajinBlackheart  Moderator

    I wouldn't call it incredible exactly, but the second issue was far better than the first. I do like the art though.
     
    My biggest issue is that all the Marvel Earth writers seem to forget that Marvel has a cosmic storyline and that usually they are plucking characters out of major events. And that they "created" another cosmic being equal to Eternity. How many do we need? Enough already!

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    #3  Edited By council elite
    @jloneblackheart said:
    " I wouldn't call it incredible exactly, but the second issue was far better than the first. I do like the art though. My biggest issue is that all the Marvel Earth writers seem to forget that Marvel has a cosmic storyline and that usually they are plucking characters out of major events. And that they "created" another cosmic being equal to Eternity. How many do we need? Enough already! "
    haha, it does seem like most of marvel's characters are abstract entities nowadays.
    & something about pak & van lente"s story telling is just riveting to me.
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    #4  Edited By xerox_kitty

    I've updated the OP to this thread. It now includes the Checklist.

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    #5  Edited By Metatron_Da_Don

    I just want to know if some of the dead X-Men/Avengers survive or if they have to go back to restore balance or something.
    And where is Jack of Hearts? He was next!

    "I'm next?"








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    #6  Edited By mrtrickster

    it would be awesome if chaos king isn't an unoriginal nekron rip off.  he's more boring than nekron

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    #7  Edited By N7_Normandy
    @council elite said:
    " What do you guys think so far?
     
    imo the writing is incredible as always & the art is simply amazing.
    i definitely recommend it =) 
     

    Checklist 

     

    October

    Chaos War #1 
    Chaos War #2  
     

    November

    Chaos War #3 
    Chaos War: Thor #1
    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #1
    Chaos War: Chaos King One-Shot
    Chaos War: Alpha Flight One-Shot 

    December

    Chaos War #4
    Chaos War: God-Squad One-Shot
    Chaos War: Thor #2
    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #2
    Chaos War: X-Men #1  

    January

    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #3Chaos War: X-Men #2Chaos War #5 "
    there are a bunch more Chaos war tie-in issues that don't necessarily have the Chaos War title.  I'm pretty sure the Incredible Hulk is going to have a few tie-in issues
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    #8  Edited By xerox_kitty
    @N7_Normandy said:
    ""
    there are a bunch more Chaos war tie-in issues that don't necessarily have the Chaos War title.  I'm pretty sure the Incredible Hulk is going to have a few tie-in issues "
    If you know them (and where they slot into the checklist) then please let me know & I'll edit the OP again :)
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    #9  Edited By PumpkinBomb

    We need a God Squad ongoing.

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    #10  Edited By xerox_kitty
    @PumpkinBomb said:

    " We need a God Squad ongoing. "

    What is this "God Squad" you speak of...?   
      
     This cross-over pretty much snuck up on me.  All I know is that the dead are rising from the grave.... yet again.
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    #11  Edited By PumpkinBomb
    @xerox-kitty: 
       
    Although of course they'll need an updated lineup. I'd really like to see Hanuman or Raven, for instance.
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    #12  Edited By xerox_kitty
    @PumpkinBomb: Ahhh... If only we could +1/'like' posts :)
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    #13  Edited By PumpkinBomb
    @xerox-kitty: 
    You could visit my profile 900 times.
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    #14  Edited By council elite
    @N7_Normandy: 
    @xerox-kitty said:
    " @N7_Normandy said:
    ""
    there are a bunch more Chaos war tie-in issues that don't necessarily have the Chaos War title.  I'm pretty sure the Incredible Hulk is going to have a few tie-in issues "
    If you know them (and where they slot into the checklist) then please let me know & I'll edit the OP again :) "
    Incredible Hulks #618 - 619
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    #15  Edited By N7_Normandy
    @council elite said:
    " @N7_Normandy: 
    @xerox-kitty said:
    " @N7_Normandy said:
    ""
    there are a bunch more Chaos war tie-in issues that don't necessarily have the Chaos War title.  I'm pretty sure the Incredible Hulk is going to have a few tie-in issues "
    If you know them (and where they slot into the checklist) then please let me know & I'll edit the OP again :) "
    Incredible Hulks #618 - 619 "
    already sent him a pm with the issues yesterday
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    #16  Edited By Joe Venom

    Not hating it, but not liking it either, just feels kinda meh to me. I'll keep buying it tho maybe one of the tie-in's will pull-me-in

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    #17  Edited By Scary Tousers
    @mrtrickster said:

    " it would be awesome if chaos king isn't an unoriginal nekron rip off.  he's more boring than nekron "

    Chaos King is based on Amatsu Mikaboshi, character from Japanesse mythology. As Mikaboshi, he appeared in 2006, Nekron, while existing for decades, has been more of wanting to control and gets more power, and has to be revamped to be what he is and this verison of him appeared first in Blackest Night. If somebody is an rip-off here, it's Nekron. Plus, Nekron wanted to kill everything, he didn't cared about the Universe but life, he was more like Annihilus or Thanos that way. Mikaboshi wants ultimate and complete destruction, to undo creation. Also, Nekron in Blackest Night was more of an manipulator, rather defeating enemies with his gambits and plans and hannibal lectures of Black Lanterns, than in combat. Mikaboshi has somebody who planns for him, and is doing all heavy action. The only thing Nekron did in BN was really just STANDIND THERE, even Spectre was defeated by him doing nothing. Chaos King engages in direct combat, he destroys everything personally, especially if he fights with powerfull enemies. Nekron didn't do anything until Entity appeared. Chaos King at this point took loads of incredibly powerfull characters, all by himself.  Nekron will be remembered as dude who played Lich King Arthas in the middle of a giant battle. Mikaboshi will be remembered as the guy who killed countless numbers of gods and godlike characters by himself.
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    #18  Edited By mrtrickster
    @Scary Tousers said:
    "@mrtrickster said:

    " it would be awesome if chaos king isn't an unoriginal nekron rip off.  he's more boring than nekron "

    Chaos King is based on Amatsu Mikaboshi, character from Japanesse mythology. As Mikaboshi, he appeared in 2006, Nekron, while existing for decades, has been more of wanting to control and gets more power, and has to be revamped to be what he is and this verison of him appeared first in Blackest Night. If somebody is an rip-off here, it's Nekron. Plus, Nekron wanted to kill everything, he didn't cared about the Universe but life, he was more like Annihilus or Thanos that way. Mikaboshi wants ultimate and complete destruction, to undo creation. Also, Nekron in Blackest Night was more of an manipulator, rather defeating enemies with his gambits and plans and hannibal lectures of Black Lanterns, than in combat. Mikaboshi has somebody who planns for him, and is doing all heavy action. The only thing Nekron did in BN was really just STANDIND THERE, even Spectre was defeated by him doing nothing. Chaos King engages in direct combat, he destroys everything personally, especially if he fights with powerfull enemies. Nekron didn't do anything until Entity appeared. Chaos King at this point took loads of incredibly powerfull characters, all by himself.  Nekron will be remembered as dude who played Lich King Arthas in the middle of a giant battle. Mikaboshi will be remembered as the guy who killed countless numbers of gods and godlike characters by himself. "

    mikaboshi got retconned...........the whole idea of chaos war is ripping off bn, and i read both. so there's no need for you to explain the plots for me
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    #19  Edited By Scary Tousers
    @mrtrickster said: 
     mikaboshi got retconned
     
    So got Nekron.  Mikaboshi is not at last closer to his mithological original  archetype.
    And, quite frankly, if you want to talk about ripp-off, okay:
    - Chaos War is a story about incredibly powerfull villain, capable of defeating strongest beings in the Universe, who is actively trying to archieve his dream of, to quote Darvos, THE DESTRUCTION! OF REALITY! ITSELF!. Therefore, it's ripping off Crisis On The Infinite Earths.
    - Blackest Night is about a powerfull villain finding a way to kill all life in the Universe. Therefore, it's ripping off Infinity Gauntlet.
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    #20  Edited By Omertalvendetta

    Is the checklist the proper way to read this? I've been interested in picking this up, but I don't know the order... I can tell the beginning point is obviously Chaos War #1... 

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    #21  Edited By IncredibleMSJ

    Not bashing the story or anything because I am a fan so far but I do have a few questions. 1.) Was there not already characters such as Oblivion and Entropy that are the same thing as Chaos King essentially? and 2.) If this is effecting the entire universe why have we not seen the Tribunal? (I know itd be a cop out cheap way of ending the story, and he usually doesnt get involved much anyway.) and 3.) I hadnt been keeping up with Hercules prior to this, what causes him to be so much more powerful than a normal skyfathr?  just thought i could hear some oppinions

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    #22  Edited By council elite
    @IncredibleMSJ said:
    " Not bashing the story or anything because I am a fan so far but I do have a few questions. 1.) Was there not already characters such as Oblivion and Entropy that are the same thing as Chaos King essentially? and 2.) If this is effecting the entire universe why have we not seen the Tribunal? (I know itd be a cop out cheap way of ending the story, and he usually doesnt get involved much anyway.) and 3.) I hadnt been keeping up with Hercules prior to this, what causes him to be so much more powerful than a normal skyfathr?  just thought i could hear some oppinions "
    he is more powerful because amadeus cho made himself a skyfather by finding the four ingredients of the ultimate boon. then, he brought herc back & gave him the powers instead.
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    #23  Edited By Scary Tousers
    @omertalvendetta said:

    " Is the checklist the proper way to read this? I've been interested in picking this up, but I don't know the order... I can tell the beginning point is obviously Chaos War #1...  "

     
    I'm always working on the chronological checklists to events I read, so I can help you.
     
    Chaos War: Chaos King (prologue that takes place before and between the events of firsts issue)
    Chaos War #1 
    Chaos War #2
    Chaos War: Ares (intelude)
    Chaos War #3
    Chaos War: God Squad
    Chaos War: Alpha Flight
      Incredible Hulks #618
    Chaos War: Dead Avengers #1
    Chaos War #4
    Chaos War: Thor #1-2
    Chaos War #5
     
    I will update it when new issues will be out.
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    The Hulks tie in was pretty good.
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    #25  Edited By mrtrickster

    amadeus cho, my new favorite character in MU 
    chaos king is still lame though

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    #26  Edited By council elite

    is it just me or does chaos war keep getting better?

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    #27  Edited By council elite
    @N7_Normandy said:
    " @council elite said:
    " @N7_Normandy: 
    @xerox-kitty said:
    " @N7_Normandy said:
    ""
    there are a bunch more Chaos war tie-in issues that don't necessarily have the Chaos War title.  I'm pretty sure the Incredible Hulk is going to have a few tie-in issues "
    If you know them (and where they slot into the checklist) then please let me know & I'll edit the OP again :) "
    Incredible Hulks #618 - 619 "
    already sent him a pm with the issues yesterday "
    now, Incredible Hulks #620 aswell
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    #28  Edited By Primmaster64

    Where the hell was The Living Tribunal?

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    #29  Edited By tensor
    @Primmaster64: he must be in hiding lol
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    #30  Edited By Primmaster64
    @tensor: lol, Nah, he could have ended this easily.
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    #31  Edited By AskaniSon295

    Captain Marvel and Alpha Flight are back from the Dead Nuff' Said.

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    #32  Edited By Primmaster64

    I'm serious

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    #33  Edited By Theworldbreaker

                                                                                                                                                                        This   

     
     

                                                                                                                                                          + 

     
     

                                                                                                                                                 that which is this 
     

     
     
     
                                                                                                                                                       = awsomens.
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    The X-Men issue was....there.
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    #35  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Jake Fury: duuudddddddddeeeeee
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    @Primmaster64:
    Yo yo yo.
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    #37  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Jake Fury: Where the F*ck was the Living Tribunal when all of this happened? Lunch break?
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    @Primmaster64:
    No idea. I dropped this after issue #1.
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    #39  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Jake Fury: This should have caugth his attention.
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    @Primmaster64:
    Maybe its beneath him?
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    #41  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Jake Fury: Not when there's abstracts involve right?
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    @Primmaster64:
    I'm not sure. I don't really get into the cosmic entities.
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    #43  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Jake Fury: ok...lol
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    #44  Edited By Scary Tousers
    @IncredibleMSJ 
    1) Oblivion is an counterpart of Inffinity, not Eternity, and seems to work in different way, just making benefits of the death and destruction that  already takes place. Entropy seems to just doesn't exist anymore, when it tried to create somethign after destroying the Universe, it transformed into Eternity, which has been reborn.
    2)  Tribunal isn't there, because apparently Abstracts see Chaos King's rampage as sort of thing that has to happen, at last that's what we can get from what Eternity said.
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    #45  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Scary Tousers: What do you mean? ''has to happen''
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    #46  Edited By cennobite

    What will happen to the people who were raised from the dead, maybe some might be able to stay in the land of the living. 

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