IS Warbird (Ms Marvel) suposed to be Marvel's version of supergirl or something?
Carol Danvers
Character » Carol Danvers appears in 4390 issues.
After encountering the Kree hero Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers was accidentally subjected to otherworldly radiation that transformed her into a superhuman warrior. Calling herself Ms. Marvel, she established herself as one of the most powerful and prominent heroes and respected member of the Avengers. She has now adopted the mantle of Captain Marvel for herself.
Supergirl parody?
I agree on the fact she may have started out as a spin-off of a male super hero. But she has evolved past that to the fact there alot of people see her in her own light and dont compare her to them. Buti like AtPhantom "I don't see any similarities between them.." is agreeable in my opioin.
I don't think Marvel has a premier female character anymore then they have a premier male character. I believe Marvel's having her lead the Mighty Avengers because it makes sense, and her solo series kicks ass and sells quite nicely, so there's no reason for her not to have one.
The only similarities, are the fact that both women are blond (which isn't isn't exactly a distinguishing feature, among female heroes) and that Carol's last name is "Danvers" (a name used by the original Supergirl, after she was adopted by the pre-crisis Danvers family (before that, she was Linda Lee). And the 90's Supergirl). Carol wasn't even a heroine (nor empowered), until almost a decade after her introduction. So, no. Carol's not Marvel's Supergirl (as she was originally neither a hero, nor villain).
Marketing-wise I think Marvel has, since Ms. Marvel's inception, always desired for Ms. Marvel to become their preeminent superheroine in much the same way Wonder Woman is DC's. Personally, with her powers, looks, feminist views and tough-girl 'tude, I've always thought Ms. Marvel most closely resembled Power Girl - not Supergirl.
I guess at first she was Captain Mar-Vell's Supergirl type character, but she's evolved way passed that. I'd define her as the woman icon of Marvel.
Marketing-wise I think Marvel has, since Ms. Marvel's inception, always desired for Ms. Marvel to become their preeminent superheroine in much the same way Wonder Woman is DC's. Personally, with her powers, looks, feminist views and tough-girl 'tude, I've always thought Ms. Marvel most closely resembled Power Girl - not Supergirl.They kind of put her in the dumps though after Rogue stole her powers. And for a while they were pushing her to become their leading female hero, but they've slowed down with that recently.
I guess at first she was Captain Mar-Vell's Supergirl type character, but she's evolved way passed that. I'd define her as the woman icon of Marvel.To be honest, she's come such a long way as a character that it wouldn't be to hard to just retcon Capt. Marvel out of her origin (which by the way I think is in need of a good modern day retelling). I mean most people bring up the fact that "she's a female Captain Mar-Vell" but like everyone has stated in this thread, Carol has grown far pass anything to him and has become her own character, and she has become one of Marvel's top superheroine's.
ms.marvel is a woman in charge
supergirl still has a long way to go before she's on ms.marvel's level in terms of maturity
@Gambit1024 said:They can absolutely retcon that out, but I don't think that's necessary. That story definitely has to be retold though... I'd read it, anyway.I guess at first she was Captain Mar-Vell's Supergirl type character, but she's evolved way passed that. I'd define her as the woman icon of Marvel.To be honest, she's come such a long way as a character that it wouldn't be to hard to just retcon Capt. Marvel out of her origin (which by the way I think is in need of a good modern day retelling). I mean most people bring up the fact that "she's a female Captain Mar-Vell" but like everyone has stated in this thread, Carol has grown far pass anything to him and has become her own character, and she has become one of Marvel's top superheroine's.
@PowerHerc said:They kind of put her in the dumps though after Rogue stole her powers. And for a while they were pushing her to become their leading female hero, but they've slowed down with that recently.
Marketing-wise I think Marvel has, since Ms. Marvel's inception, always desired for Ms. Marvel to become their preeminent superheroine in much the same way Wonder Woman is DC's. Personally, with her powers, looks, feminist views and tough-girl 'tude, I've always thought Ms. Marvel most closely resembled Power Girl - not Supergirl.
Yes, Marvel did push her off to the side for quite some time before they realized what they had and restored her to her true 'Ms. Marvel' persona, getting away from all the Binary, Warbird or even plain-old-Carol b.s.
If you don't think Marvel is still promoting her as their number one heroine, which character do you think they are promoting (if any)?
@PowerHerc: Currently she's only on the New Avengers, and she's not even the leader. She could be (and probably should be) because Luke Cage is already leader of the Thunderbolts. Ms. Marvel also doesn't have a starring role in any other popular media. Emma Frost is being pushed a bit more because she makes an appearance in just about all of the X-books, and has had major roles in both of the newest X-Men TV shows. She also has a big role X-Men First Class.Emma isn't really the hero type though, so they should be pushing Ms. Marvel instead.
she is being bumped to te main team in Avengers 13 same Photon will be as well judging by a cover to issue 14
gravitational pull being much stronger than Earth's (original idea for Superman's powers). The Kree buried citadels in the North Pole that Ronan used later. Mar-Vell is an alien who decided to side with Earth (and has a young male friend he bonds with over wrist-worn appendages) Clark was an alien who naturalized himself to our side as well, and gave Jimmy a special wrist watch. Both Clark and Marvel have their symbols on the chest, although tha's kind of common among superheroes/villains, and both distaff counterparts share the chest symbol of their peers. They both have the last name "Danvers" (although Matrix and Linda came later, '88 and '96, so if anyone copied that it was SG) Kara wore a red bandana, Carol wore it over her hips. Kara, Carol. Even in appearance, they're similar, although one could argue blonde superheroes are common. Remember, Janet Pym and Wanda were in the Avengers before Marvel, and they were not blonde. Neither was Black Widow. This thread is 6 years old and im totally getting scolded. But the truth must be told (i would say TRIBUTE character rather than "parody")
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