@Hancock89: QFT, it's a load of bull.
On a separate note I want Lobdell's shirt.
Character » Batman appears in 23636 issues.
@toekneebeeears: BS with the Hulk it was more of a compromise. and In that crossover it was the usual villain tricks Heroes in to fighting each other and oohhh we're both good guys so lets team up.
@shackle said:
Batman the character suffers from the rabid fanboyism that elevates him to omnipotence.
True. This is where superheroes get their true power.
@Hancock89 said:
The most wanked character in comic book history.
Make a thread of Batman versus any given character and the first question you get from his craziest fans is: ''How much prep time does he get?!''. Listening to some of 'em one could even beleive that Batman could probably defeat the entire comicverse if granted enough prep-time. Quite ridiculous, he's the Chuck Norris of comic books. And it doesn't seem like the blind fanboyism among writers and his most loyal fans will change any time soon.
This is accurate assessment. Batman=Chuck Norris. But just like Chuck Norris, Batman could never defeat Bruce Lee. PERIOD!
@Icon said:
@Blood1991 said:
This is why I can't love Batman, I like Batman well enough, but honestly I hate this perception that he is unbeatable. His book is good and seeing him struggle against Talon was awesome, but then you have this parallel fanverse where he could take Superman and Wonder Woman on blindfolded and it is totally acceptable. Bat-god in my opinion ruins Batman.
It's the same reason I've never been able to get that into the character. Blind fanboyism ruins him. There is just no fun in liking a supposedly unbeatable character when it would be impossible for him to be so.
Actually batman loses more times than you know and he can barely keep his city safe but the fact that he never gives up is the reason we "fanboys'' keep saying he's unbeatable. people like to believe that nothing is impossible, that if we try hard enough we can achieve anything thats exactly what batman does, he never gives up,he works hard until he gets what he wants and even being just a man he's walking with demigods. and thats why he is one of most popular comic book characters. and please if you don't like him because of his insane fanboys then you're no better than them. read his stories, his character has gone through the most different interpretations than any character ever, you might like some of them. you might actually like Batman Earth One, Batman Year One, and the Venom storyline was pretty good and showed that he was vulnerable too. There are many other amazing storyline and Batman TAS is one of the best incarnations of the character, you can definitely check it out. Just give it a try.
@Blood1991 said:
This is why I can't love Batman, I like Batman well enough, but honestly I hate this perception that he is unbeatable. His book is good and seeing him struggle against Talon was awesome, but then you have this parallel fanverse where he could take Superman and Wonder Woman on blindfolded and it is totally acceptable. Bat-god in my opinion ruins Batman.
All of this.
@RustyRoy: At the risk of making a blanket statement, most of the people who have a problem with Bat God are Marvel readers.
Oops, I guess that was a blanket statement. Oh well...
Much as I love him no. Given prep and planning there are some heroes and villains he could beat in multiple comic universes. However as good as he is he's only human. When you completely dismiss him as a threat that tends to be a fatal flaw that I've seen in both the comics, cartoons and live action movies.
My Little Pony will beat Batman. I agree the Doctor and Holmes (Batman ripped him off) can kick his ass. Galactus will just fart and kill him.
This is why I appreciate the Powers game on this site. If brute force and ability are compared to defeat Batman, he'd lose. But, if Batman had the time/concentration to think about what he's doing and formulate a plan... using something like "outwit" there's at east a heavy chance that he'd win.
if superwoman had been so cocky in Crisis on 2 earths she would have killed him so that pretty much answers it.
Most people have the misconception that Batman always beats Superman with prep, when 75% of the time he fails.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! BATMAN IS A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 NO ONE CAN DEFEAT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Reignmaker said:
@RustyRoy: At the risk of making a blanket statement, most of the people who have a problem with Bat God are Marvel readers.
Oops, I guess that was a blanket statement. Oh well...
God forbid I read from both companies...
@RustyRoy said:
@Icon said:
@Blood1991 said:
This is why I can't love Batman, I like Batman well enough, but honestly I hate this perception that he is unbeatable. His book is good and seeing him struggle against Talon was awesome, but then you have this parallel fanverse where he could take Superman and Wonder Woman on blindfolded and it is totally acceptable. Bat-god in my opinion ruins Batman.
It's the same reason I've never been able to get that into the character. Blind fanboyism ruins him. There is just no fun in liking a supposedly unbeatable character when it would be impossible for him to be so.
Actually batman loses more times than you know and he can barely keep his city safe but the fact that he never gives up is the reason we "fanboys'' keep saying he's unbeatable. people like to believe that nothing is impossible, that if we try hard enough we can achieve anything thats exactly what batman does, he never gives up,he works hard until he gets what he wants and even being just a man he's walking with demigods. and thats why he is one of most popular comic book characters. and please if you don't like him because of his insane fanboys then you're no better than them. read his stories, his character has gone through the most different interpretations than any character ever, you might like some of them. you might actually like Batman Earth One, Batman Year One, and the Venom storyline was pretty good and showed that he was vulnerable too. There are many other amazing storyline and Batman TAS is one of the best incarnations of the character, you can definitely check it out. Just give it a try.
This isn't about his fanboys at least not the ones online this is about DC writers being fanboys. I also read ALOT of Batman, and watched every cartoon because I love his villains, but Batman himself has always just been meh with me.
@kagato: In my head I heard this being said by Allyson Hannigan's character Michelle from American Pie.
"So, this one time, at band camp, with Batman.."
@Blood1991 said:
@Reignmaker said:
@RustyRoy said:
@Icon said:
@Blood1991 said:
This is why I can't love Batman, I like Batman well enough, but honestly I hate this perception that he is unbeatable. His book is good and seeing him struggle against Talon was awesome, but then you have this parallel fanverse where he could take Superman and Wonder Woman on blindfolded and it is totally acceptable. Bat-god in my opinion ruins Batman.
It's the same reason I've never been able to get that into the character. Blind fanboyism ruins him. There is just no fun in liking a supposedly unbeatable character when it would be impossible for him to be so.
Actually batman loses more times than you know and he can barely keep his city safe but the fact that he never gives up is the reason we "fanboys'' keep saying he's unbeatable. people like to believe that nothing is impossible, that if we try hard enough we can achieve anything thats exactly what batman does, he never gives up,he works hard until he gets what he wants and even being just a man he's walking with demigods. and thats why he is one of most popular comic book characters. and please if you don't like him because of his insane fanboys then you're no better than them. read his stories, his character has gone through the most different interpretations than any character ever, you might like some of them. you might actually like Batman Earth One, Batman Year One, and the Venom storyline was pretty good and showed that he was vulnerable too. There are many other amazing storyline and Batman TAS is one of the best incarnations of the character, you can definitely check it out. Just give it a try.
This isn't about his fanboys at least not the ones online this is about DC writers being fanboys. I also read ALOT of Batman, and watched every cartoon because I love his villains, but Batman himself has always just been meh with me.
Ok
I can't believe people are still debating this. He's merely human and obviously has his limitations. That being said, this was obviously done and fun, shouldn't be taken seriously, but I can't believe blind fans are still proposing the impossible. My favorite in video response" I think Galactus would probably eat him."
Has anyone read Green Lantern #14 ? (If someone can upload a scan it will be nice).. Baz' kinda say : Justice League ? There's nothing I can do. Maybe I could take Batman.. ... ... .... What the f*$^ ?? Of course Batman can beat anyone ! He is the Goddam Batman !
@Mrfuzzynutz said:
*sigh* Face palm
Batman CANNOT beat everyone. period. What Batman is great at however? Getting his tail kicked the first time, and then developing a counter measure for the next time he encounters them. Batman is like 486-2 in rematches hahaha
Good point, which would make Batman more like Rocky Balboa than Chuck Norris
@Russcovito said:
Has anyone read Green Lantern #14 ? (If someone can upload a scan it will be nice).. Baz' kinda say : Justice League ? There's nothing I can do. Maybe I could take Batman.. ... ... .... What the f*$^ ?? Of course Batman can beat anyone ! He is the Goddam Batman !
Actually, if Baz took Batman by surprise he could (temporarily, of course) take him out of the battle. All he needs is a big green hand to grab Bruce with and throw him away.
Then again, he could also use that big green hand and just squash Batman with it. The non-lethal way has less hazardous consequences, though.
True batman fans know that he cant beat everyone, those rabid fanboys who cite non canon feats and say how batman can defeat everyone with prep arent true batman fans. The reason the charecter is so popular is because he is human and we know that he has limits, saying he can beat everyone ruins what made the charecter cool in the first place.
@Eternal19 said:
@Rumble Man said:
I blame miller
**** that guy
This, All this Batman beats everyone crap started after Miller wrote The Dark Knight Returns
He monopolizes on the good writer and 75% of the stories will link wit Bman
I loved it when the black suit Supergirl encountered Batman and said something along the lines of "Why doesn't somebody just kill you already?" It is a good question. The answer is obviously that Batman does have a super power. It's called fanboyism. Batman always wins simply because he is Batman(written by fanboys for fanboys) with the assist from the fact that he is the good guy and you can't exactly go having the good guy get stepped on by a monster immensely more powerful than him.
On a side note, I am really surprised Batman hasn't taken over Chuck Norris jokes yet. I.E Batman doesn't call the wrong number. You answer the wrong phone. Ghosts sit around the campfire and tell Batman stories. Death once had a Near-Batman experience. Etc...
That's where it all started...thanks to him...@Eternal19 said:
@Rumble Man said:
I blame miller
**** that guy
This, All this Batman beats everyone crap started after Miller wrote The Dark Knight Returns
He monopolizes on the good writer and 75% of the stories will link wit Bman
@sinestro_GL said:
Without the convenient plot devices...then no.
E.g.
Hush: Supposing that Lois managed to escape Catwoman's escape and went somewhere she couldn't be found, and if Bruce didn't happen to be in the same building as the Kryptonite ring, Batman would have probably been turned inside out.
e.g. 2:
TDKR: Suppose Oliver Queen dropped his arrow, or was apprehended before he had a chance to fire his arrow, the ending of the Superman/Batman fight would have come a lot sooner.
I would find it far less believable for Green Arrow, one of Comicdom's greatest archers, to just "drop his arrow" than for him to fire it accurately. And if you recall, he almost did get apprehended. He was fighting government troops instead of staying in position like he was supposed to. So really, the plot device was skewed against Batman in this instance.
And regarding Hush, the ring was in his belt. Clark gave it to him, in case he ever needed to be stopped. So he was carrying it, he didn't conveniently find it.
@SandMan_ said:
@Rumble Man said:That's where it all started...thanks to him...@Eternal19 said:
@Rumble Man said:
I blame miller
**** that guy
This, All this Batman beats everyone crap started after Miller wrote The Dark Knight Returns
He monopolizes on the good writer and 75% of the stories will link wit Bman
D-Bag
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