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    Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.

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    #1  Edited By Midnight Lantern

    Hmm.

    Never thought about it. Possibly Atheist?

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    #2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    I think he was raised Episcopalian/Catholic

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    #3  Edited By Static Shock

    I have a question for all of you Batman fans out there. Does he believe in God? For some reason, Batman comes of as agnostic, to me (Doesn't know if God exists). What does everyone else think?

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    #4  Edited By iSHADOW

    he's too cynical and enterprising to be religious.

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    #5  Edited By Charmcaster

    He's Episcopalian/Catholic

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    #6  Edited By No_Name_

    Charmcaster says:

    "He's Episcopalian/Catholic"

    Big difference between an Episcopalian and a Catholic.

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    #7  Edited By No_Name_

    So which one is it, Episcopalian or Catholic?

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    #9  Edited By No_Name_

    Static Shock says:

    "Charmcaster says:
    "He's Episcopalian/Catholic"

    The site says that he's split between Catholic and Episcopalian (His

    mom was the former and his dad was the latter). But, in some scans, his

    mother and father's gravesites have Christian crosses. Also, in the

    future, Bruce's gravesite has a Christian cross as well. But just because his parents had a religious background doesn't mean he shares the same views.

    The site also

    says that his religious views vary with the writer. More often than

    not, he seems very agnostic, to me. And, sometimes, athiest. And, I say

    that because there have been times when people will try to explain the

    existence of magic, mysticism, and religion. However, being the type of

    person he is, he feels those things are non-existent, and says that

    there's a explanation behind it, that it's something that cannot be

    explained with science alone. That sounds very agnostic to me. He had

    this discussion with Superman once, and with Zatanna about magic in the

    last issue of Superman/Batman (when Superman encountered magic

    kryptonite).

    So, I don't know. He may have been depicted as being

    religious in some stories depending on the writer, but based on the way

    he carries himself, he seems very agnostic.
    Post Edited:2008-04-15 18:28:49"

    I see what your saying about his being agnostic. Also, if he was a catholic I feel like he wouldn't be so apt for vigilantism, if that makes any sense.

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    #10  Edited By Static Shock

    Charmcaster says:

    "He's Episcopalian/Catholic"

    The site says that he's split between Catholic and Episcopalian (His

    mom was the former and his dad was the latter). But, in some scans, his

    mother and father's gravesites have Christian crosses. Also, in the

    future, Bruce's gravesite has a Christian cross as well. But just because his parents had a religious background doesn't mean he shares the same views.

    The site also

    says that his religious views vary with the writer. More often than

    not, he seems very agnostic, to me. And, sometimes, athiest. And, I say

    that because there have been times when people will try to explain the

    existence of magic, mysticism, and religion. However, being the type of

    person he is, he feels those things are non-existent, and says that

    there's a explanation behind it, that it's something that cannot be

    explained with science alone. That sounds very agnostic to me. He had

    this discussion with Superman once, and with Zatanna about magic in the

    last issue of Superman/Batman (when Superman encountered magic

    kryptonite).

    So, I don't know. He may have been depicted as being

    religious in some stories depending on the writer, but based on the way

    he carries himself, he seems very agnostic.
    Post Edited:2008-04-15 18:28:49

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    #11  Edited By Static Shock

    I think it makes perfect sense.

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    #12  Edited By Nighthunter

    Nightwing says:

    "My parents didn't much talk about god. Bruce never did. Though I'm sure he believed in the devil"
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    #13  Edited By Static Shock

    Nighthunter says:

    "My parents didn't much talk about god. Bruce never did. Though I'm sure he believed in the devil"

    "

    That reminds me. There was a villain that told Batman that he would see him in Hell, and Batman said that he probably would see him there one day.

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    #14  Edited By Nighthunter

    Static Shock says:

    "Nighthunter says:
    "My parents didn't much talk about god. Bruce never did. Though I'm sure he believed in the devil"

    "

    That reminds me. There was a villain that told Batman that he would see him in Hell, and Batman said that he probably would see him there one day. "

    remember the villain?

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    #15  Edited By Static Shock

    Nighthunter says:

    "remember the villain?"

    I'm thinking the Mad Hatter... I really don't remember. A lot of Batman's villains are psycopaths.

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    #16  Edited By Gottheit

    Batman must have some degree of belief in some sort of afterlife, as he has visited Heaven and Hell, hasn't he? With the rest of the JLA...I don't know, man. Not sure how much he thinks about it.

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    #17  Edited By No_Name_

    Static Shock says:

    "Nighthunter says:
    "remember the villain?"

    I'm thinking the Mad Hatter... I really don't remember. A lot of Batman's villains are psycopaths."

    That's what makes him so interesting. Was it Ras?

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    #18  Edited By Satyrquaze

    He talks to his dead parents too often for my liking if he's agnostic or atheist.

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    #19  Edited By Static Shock

    Gottheit says:

    "Batman must have some degree of belief in some sort of afterlife, as he has visited Heaven and Hell, hasn't he? With the rest of the JLA...I don't know, man. Not sure how much he thinks about it."

    What issue was this?

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    #20  Edited By zero edge

    Static Shock says:

    "Nighthunter says:
    "My parents didn't much talk about god. Bruce never did. Though I'm sure he believed in the devil"

    "

    That reminds me. There was a villain that told Batman that he would see him in Hell, and Batman said that he probably would see him there one day. "

    hey I remember this quote too, I forgot which villain also but when you brought up the Mad Hatter, it might be in the latest Mad Hatter story arc... not sure but for some reason this story came to mind.

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    #21  Edited By Knightwing

    Nice to see you in the Batman forums again Zero edge.

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    #22  Edited By No_Name_

    I don't know enough about Daredevil, what do you mean>?

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    #23  Edited By Gottheit

    @ Static Shock: Grant Morrison issues(I think...), it was in the '90s.

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    #24  Edited By Gottheit

    Daredevil is blind but he can see. everyone knew his identity long before Civil War, since he never knew when there were, like, 20 people in the room where he changed(blind, you see.) Really a strange character. He always made people stay where they are as he felt his way to the room to feel their face and pummel them, yet his villains never caught on that he was blind. It was really insulting that they expected us to believe all this. Seriously.

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    #25  Edited By Cosmic Sentinel

    I am reasonably sure Batman has always erred on the side of atheism in any book I've read with him. Being raised by parents of a religion doesn't automatically make you a disciple.

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    #26  Edited By Gottheit

    Batman. Agnostic. Fairly sure.

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    #27  Edited By Gottheit

    Silence, infidel! Gottheit says what he wants.

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    #28  Edited By Static Shock

    Cosmic Sentinel says:

    "I am reasonably sure Batman has always erred on the side of atheism inany book I've read with him. Being raised by parents of a religiondoesn't automatically make you a disciple."

    Agreed.

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    Whatever religion Batman's creators, Bob Kane and Bill Finger, and his designer, Kane, might have practiced, or whatever religion Bruce Wayne's parents might have been shown practicing in the comics, Batman could never really belong to any faith because all their emphases on forgiveness offend and outrage his sense of justice.

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    #31  Edited By knife

    Batman does believe in God but he also has read the New Testament in James where it says that faith without works is died. Which means that he believes in God but he knows he must help and do his part.

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    #32  Edited By likalaruku
    Midnight Lantern said:
    "

    Hmm.

    Never thought about it. Possibly Atheist?

    "

    :
     Not likely, since he's the opposite of the Joker & the Joker is very likely atheist: No gods, no masters, no fears. It's not really appropriate for any fictional character to be affiliated with a religion. ::jabbs Nightcrawler hard in the chest::
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    #33  Edited By NightFang3
    Nighthunter said:
    "

    Static Shock says:

    "Nighthunter says:
    "My parents didn't much talk about god. Bruce never did. Though I'm sure he believed in the devil"

    "

    That reminds me. There was a villain that told Batman that he would see him in Hell, and Batman said that he probably would see him there one day. "

    remember the villain?

    "
                 I think it was the Joker in The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller.
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    #34  Edited By speedlgt

    whatever he is I am sure he believes in the afterlife hes been through too much and seen too much not too

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    Nighthunter said:
    "

    Nightwing says:

    "My parents didn't much talk about god. Bruce never did. Though I'm sure he believed in the devil"
    "
    What issue was this?
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    #36  Edited By speedlgt

    Hes Catholic I am sure of it.....
    basic reason is the premise of the religon and his character......"Its a Guilt based religon" Unlike other christian faiths Catholics are not "saved" nor "reborn" they have to work on redemption till the day they die.

    Now dont jump on me I am Catholic always have been.

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    #37  Edited By inferiorego  Staff

    Saving Gotham city is a tad more important than worrying about a man in the sky

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    #38  Edited By Lantern Prime
    knife said:
    "Batman does believe in God but he also has read the New Testament in James where it says that faith without works is died. Which means that he believes in God but he knows he must help and do his part."

    I remeber that too.
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    #39  Edited By King_Saturn
    Batman believes in the Almighty...
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    #40  Edited By inferiorego  Staff

    Batman and the quest for the holy grail... aka The Chalice... great read

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    #41  Edited By Methos
    Midnight Lantern said:

    Hmm.

    Never thought about it. Possibly Atheist?


    come on... please people, use some common sense...

    Batman, whilst in the JLA has not only encountered The Specter, the right hand of God himself... but has also worked alongside, and became friends with Zauriel, an actual Angel, one of the original Host from heaven...

    not only this, but during the "Heaven on Earth" arc... the JLA actually witnessed the Gates of Heaven opening...

    i'd say that goes beyond having Faith in God Almighty, and becomes downright proof of his existence lol

    if Batman doesn't believe in God, and lets face it, if he doesn't in the face of all that proof, he doesn't deserve to have the moniker of the Worlds Greatest Detective... more like the Worlds Greatest Idiot...

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    #42  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    Episcopalian/Christian (lapsed)

    10 years in the future, Robin finds Bruce's grave. Its marked with a Christian Cross Headstone
    10 years in the future, Robin finds Bruce's grave. Its marked with a Christian Cross Headstone
    Saying his prayers
    Saying his prayers
    Article from Newsweek
    Article from Newsweek
    As Batman, praying.
    As Batman, praying.


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    #43  Edited By King_Saturn
    Methos said:
    "Midnight Lantern said:

    Hmm.

    Never thought about it. Possibly Atheist?


    come on... please people, use some common sense...

    Batman, whilst in the JLA has not only encountered The Specter, the right hand of God himself... but has also worked alongside, and became friends with Zauriel, an actual Angel, one of the original Host from heaven...

    not only this, but during the "Heaven on Earth" arc... the JLA actually witnessed the Gates of Heaven opening...

    i'd say that goes beyond having Faith in God Almighty, and becomes downright proof of his existence lol

    if Batman doesn't believe in God, and lets face it, if he doesn't in the face of all that proof, he doesn't deserve to have the moniker of the Worlds Greatest Detective... more like the Worlds Greatest Idiot...

    M"
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    #44  Edited By V
    Gambler said:
    "Episcopalian/Christian (lapsed)
    Is he really? I had no idea.
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    #45  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    V said:
    "Gambler said:
    "Episcopalian/Christian (lapsed)
    Is he really? I had no idea."
    I dont believe he's ever come right out and said. But theres more then enough circumstantial evidence to back it up.
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    #46  Edited By V

    I guess I have something in common with him afterall

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    #47  Edited By Lantern Prime

    Yeah he believes in Christ.

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    #48  Edited By V
    Lantern Prime said:

    Yeah he believes in Christ.

    Yes Episcopalians do.
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    #49  Edited By warlock360
    TheDrifter said:
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    #50  Edited By clockworkcanary

    I personally believe in separation of church and comics :)

    Seriously, I think Batman, having travelled the world and been exposed to numerous cultures and lifestyles would most likely have a respect for all religions, using aspects of all philosophies that help him become a better crime fighter. I imagine he would partake in some elements of the Eastern religions.

    IMO though, comics shouldn't deal overly too much with religion unless it's central to the core of a character's personality (such as Nightcrawler for example).

    And just a side note, Joker could well be of any religion. I've seen some posts on fstdt (fundies say the darndest things) that are ten times crazier than anything the Joker could come up with.  I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the demonization of Atheists either by claiming Joker is one because he is evil and crazy. Just because some people haven't been convinced of any of them doesn't make them evil.

    I personally think Joker is a Scientologist though :)  And I swear I saw Aquaman at the airport pushing Islam last week!

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