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    Batman Inc. is the result of Bruce Wayne using the concept and idea of Batman to counter-act the idea of crime. His goal is to make Batman a global franchise and stop crime around the world.

    Off My Mind: Batman Endangering Wayne Enterprise Employees

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    #51  Edited By BooDoug187

    There have been many Batman stories where Wayne Tech or some company that Bruce Wayne owns was attacked and robbed. I don't think anything will change


    And yes, there have also been stories where Wayne and Fox were attacked.  I think being a employee of any company in a comic book universe makes you a target for some crazy asshole in a costume!
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    #52  Edited By gmanfromheck
    @ssnyder1835: But you didn't address the question in the article. Is Batman endangering Wayne Enterprise employees? Guess that'd be cheating if you answered.
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    #53  Edited By BoOMbOoMpOw

    I think that`s exactly what is going to happen in a few months or a year . But hey wouldn`t it be boring if there where no problems ?!

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    #54  Edited By Moonleming

    To me the real interesting fall out from Batman Inc. may come later.  I came away from Grant Morison's run (to this point) with the feeling that Batman did have a super power and that super power was Bruce Wayne.  The run showed that Bruce is the only one who could handle what he went through and not come out a dangerous sociopath.  The Gotham cops showed that. Bruce defeating Hurt showed that, when the Joker told Hurt that he has no idea what he's dealing with. Hurts entire approach was based on the psychology of normal men.  And even further Darkseid recognized Bruce's greatness and tried to clone him all attempts failed.  None of the clones could handle the stress of the imprint.  

    Move to Batman Inc.  - we all know Batman breeds cooky villains well Bruce can handle a looney like The Joker and those who have dealt with him for so long can. But how will any of these new Batmen handle dealing with that level of crazy?  They are bound to breed the same type of enemies. I wonder if all the Batmen have the mental fortitude needed and what happens if they don't?

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    #55  Edited By ssnyder1835

    I think he is, yes. But that's Bruce's way. He's obsessive and stoic and solitary and inconsiderate and the greatest detective... He's thinks of the greater good, but not on a person-to-person level. His employees are endangered, sure. But the world is safer. That sort of thing. He's like a general in a war. he looks at the board, you know? That singularity of purpose and the sort of unilateral decision making - that's who Bruce is, and why, in my mind, he's destined to live his life (mostly) alone. Bruce's pathological nature is what makes him so fascinating to me. He's my favorite superhero for this reason - his cause is totally noble, but the execution and underpinnings are self-destructive and obsessive. 

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    #56  Edited By ssnyder1835

    Look at JLA tower of Babel for example. He's got his own, secret marching orders :)

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    #57  Edited By antiterra

     Very, very happy to see Scott Snyder post here on Comicvine!

    Last year, Rucka and Williams set the bar impossibly high on Tec with their Batwoman run, but Snyder (and Jock and Francavilla, whose pencils blow me away each month) has managed to bring Tec to the very top of the Bat-books pile. Considering the competition, that's no small feat.

    I haven't read issue 876 yet (I'm always 2 weeks behind since I live in Europe), but everything so far has been deliciously nightmarish (knife-wielding Babs in issue 873 still terrifies the crap outa me!).

    The best compliment I could pay Snyder is to say that there's a little bit of Dini in his focus - not in the tone, themes or style, because Snyder is very much his own voice and not an imitation of somebody else, but in the way that, like Dini, he understands how you can't write a truly compelling Batman book without placing Gotham at the heart of it, without writing the city as a central character.

    In Streets of Gotham, Dini and Nguyen practically gave us a study of how the "Gotham of yore" has endured into modern times - it's a Gotham steeped in tradition, a city that's very much like its founding families: majestic, full of secrets and shadows, equal parts nobility and shame, high rises and dank alleyways.

    Snyder's Gotham is more nightmarish, a twisted rabbit hole/gaping mouth. It offers a warping landscape that coils itself around the psyche of the characters, feels for the cracks in the armour and morphs into the most unnerving and rattling scenery for them.

    In a way, Snyder's Gotham reminds me of Morrison's Doctor Hurt: instead of going after "the Batman" with brute strength, they challenge the men behind the cowl, wear them down psychologically, chip away at their fortitude and mental strength by building a custom-tailored hell for them. Except that Gotham - maybe paradoxically for a creature of stone and steel - feels more organic and animalistic than most human foes would.

    That, and Snyder just gets what makes Dick a Batman of his own. That's the biggest challenge for Bat-book writers these days and Scott clearly doesn't have a problem with it. No need to check the colour of the symbol to know it's Dick and not Bruce.

    Wow... Sorry for being so stupendously off-topic, but when I'm enthusiastic about something, I tend to get carried away. :)

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    #58  Edited By gmanfromheck
    @ssnyder1835: Nice. Good to see I wasn't completely crazy with this idea.
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    #59  Edited By Mr.Q
    aside from all of Batman's villains breaking out of the INSANE ASYLUM and targeting Wayne employees( and lets face it The Joker would pick any name out of the phone book and kill them but if he knew some random 9 to 5 worker was connected to The Batman it would only entice him more) there is also the fact that Batman has made enemies as a member of the Justice League and has allies in The Teen Titans and other places the threat is even bigger. what's really there to stop a Titan villain from targeting Wayne employees to get at one of the Robins, knowing that the boy wonder works with the bat, and the bat works with Wayne and this random pencil pusher works for Wayne... well it just takes a little twisted logic but that is what comic villains ( specifically Batman villains) excel at.
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    #60  Edited By DKing_CiCADA

    Workers can always leave, sure there are other jobs in Gotham

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    #61  Edited By JonesDeini
    @The Sadhu said:
    "


    The same could be said about any employee that works for Tony Stark... but I don't remember a story where someone went after any of his employees (thats not including Rhodes, Pepper or Happy)

     

    Stark obviously thought it out... I'm sure Bruce did the same!

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    Read the beginning of Fraction's Run "The Five Nightmares" Zeke Stane and Sasha Hammer kill and injure 100s of his employees. So short answer yes, yes Bruce is. 
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    #62  Edited By MakoaWolf

    In Gotham, I have to think anyone working for WE was already a target.  Most major corporations are; its why they generally have fairly good security onsite, as well as other considerations.  One building I worked in had retractable pylons in the event an unauthorized vehicle attempted to penetrate the building...that should be read "car bomb", by the way.  In the current environment, I don't think this necessarily increases WE risk, save that maybe its added a vector of threat or two, but on a much smaller scale than say a "terrorist group".

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    #63  Edited By ssnyder1835
    @antiterra:
    Huge thanks man. we're trying our hardest to make something we can all be proud of and excited about. And for us, that means making it a story that's about something that interests us - we all like the idea of exploring Gotham as a kind of personal nightmare generator, or black mirror. So we do try to infuse every aspect of the  story with that. Every arc has its own themes and things, but that undercurrent is (hopefully) running through the whole thing, coming to a head in the climactic issues. Basically, we wanted to make this Sick Grayson's Gotham, a Gotham that has transformed itself to challenge him (rather than Bruce) as cruelly as it can. Again, very excited about what's coming up. If you like the run so far, I think you'll like the 2nd half even more, as things start to converge.
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    #64  Edited By gmanfromheck
    @ssnyder1835: Man, whenever you start talking about what you're gonna be doing in Detective, it gets my blood pumping, in a good way.
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    #65  Edited By Icon
    @Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
    " Living in Gotham in of itself is a health and safety hazard.

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    Agreed
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    #66  Edited By ssnyder1835
    @G-Man:
    Thanks man. You know I'm a fan of ComicVine. As for what's coming up, I couldn't be more excited. I mean it. No PR bullshit - 878 will ratchet the James Jr.  story up in a big way, 879 will be the big James/Gordon chapter, and in 879 we also bring in our version of the Joker (I cannot wait for you guys to see him - Jock and I have been designing him for a while. Nothing is radically different, but we wanted to make him our own the way other guys have, and so we've gone as dark and scary as possible and he is our take visually, too) then big 2-issue finale. S
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    #67  Edited By Demas

    1. Why are people limiting attacks to Gotham?  Doesn't exposing Wayne Enterprises as the financial pillar of Batman's war mean that all WE offices and subsidiaries are potential targets?  Why would you strike at the Batman in his hometown now that you know you can attack him anywhere WE- a multinational corporation- has personnel?  You can argue that people in Gotham aren't risk adverse- a disturbing argument that essentially says they're asking to be victimized- but what about all the employees that work at WE outside of Gotham?

    2. People mentioning Stark aren't up on their Iron Man.  In one of his more recent encounters with Ezekiel Stane, several of his international headquarters were blown up by Stane with high potential casualties.  It's only common sense to strike at the purse strings of your enemy when they're known.

    3. The "employees are even MORE secure NOW" argument is befuddling.  If transparency is security then why doesn't Batman just completely unmask or reveal the locations of the Bat Caves?  The arguments being used to claim exposure protects the employees should extend to Wayne's identity and the Bat Caves if taken to their logical conclusion.

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    #68  Edited By sj_esposito
    @ssnyder1835:  Man... I cannot wait to see what you guys have planned for the Joker... Jock has been so great thus far with making the darkness and the grittiness of the city and the villains really stand out. Even what he does with Batman -- the way Dick moves and how he looks in the costume -- is just right.
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    #69  Edited By Solitaire

    I'm really glad G-Man decided to write this.

    This is something that I hadn't even though of when I voiced my fears about the repercussions of Batman Inc. back when the first issue came out.

    I was completely focused on Batman ruining the fear he inspired by going public, and about the new "batmen" turning out like Jean-Paul Valley, I hadn't even considered the danger facing Wayne Enterprises Employees.

    I'm very interested to see how this all plays out, and if this recent development will affect Bruce's decision about the Batman Inc.

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    #70  Edited By entropy_aegis
    @ssnyder1835 said:
    " @entropy_aegis: Hi Entropy. It's Scott Snyder. I appreciate you taking the time to read my run on TEC and give your thoughts. And I'd never claim to be doing anything close to what Dini or Dixon have done, or even Jeph Loeb whose TLH and Dark Victory i love, personally. The only thing I can say for our run is that it's a story we all (Jock, FF, Dave Daron, and me) believe in strongly, and what I hope is coming across is that the whole 11-part run is actually one big take on Gotham. It's an exploration of Gotham as a twisted fun-house mirror to the people who try to do good for the city - the way it has this disturbing way of conjuring up villains and challenges that speak to a hero's greatest vulnerabilities. Meaning, for Bruce, Gotham throws back all these villains who are really just extensions of Bruce's own obsessions, taken to the extreme. Two-face being the duality of Bruce's life. Joker being who Bruce would be if he descended fully into the cave... So what we're trying to do is explore how that sort of city - some kind of black mirror city - would treat Dick Grayson. So the Dealer isn't a villain I'm prod of simply b/c he's creepy, but b/c he harnesses the worst in people, the buried desire to be bad and laud evil. And in that way, he's a good foil for Dick. who (unlike Bruce) puts a lot of stock in the goodness in people. He's a more hopeful man, less misanthropic. He has faith in the human character. So a villain that believes in the divine nature of humanity's capacity for evil is something that for me, makes a scary opponent for Dick. For Bruce, the Dealer would be easily dispatched, but he hits a deeper nerve w/Dick. And if the first cycle is about showing Dick how dark regular people can be (hence the crowbar), this second arc is about showing how dark street criminals can be. How unafraid of Batman. And the third cycle... well, I don;t want to give anything away, but I do promise it'll bring the James Jr. story and the Dick Grayson story lines together in a big way. And speaking to the James Jr. story - for me, James is the same nightmare for Jim Gordon that the Dealer is for Dick, just more central and direct. Meaning, Gordon is all about cause and effect, clues adding up. But what if his own son, his only biological child, is a person who doesn't add up? What is that person is an enigma, in a frightening way? (Though believe me, by 878 you will know whether James is, as Babs thinks, a brilliant serial killer, or (as Jim hopes) a troubled young man struggling with a neurological disorder... Anyway, the point is, whether or not we're any good or breaking new ground, we are all excited about the story we have to tell. And it is one big story, one exploration of a singular idea. Thanks again for checking us out :) S      "
    Don't worry your stuff is better than TLH and DV,it may well surpass what Dixon and Dini did as well.
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    #71  Edited By kungnima

    Read the last issue yesterday. Awesome stuff! I hate it when i come to the last page. Feels like two minutes reading, then its over. I wat more. So much more!

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    #72  Edited By untammed
    @TDK_1997 said:
    " I think the same way but Bruce knows what to do "
    yes
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    #73  Edited By Lurkero

    Its funny how Batman is always willing to let super villains threaten the lives of others, but he is never willing to kill those super villains so that Gotham's problems would be solved.

    Super villains can only keep threatening people in you keep letting them escape from jail.

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    #74  Edited By GamiSB

    from Batman Inc #6

    Reporter: But has Gotham's favorite playboy taken it to far this time? Does his public support for the elusive Batman's crusade against crime put Wayne, his employees and share holders in real danger?
    Bruce: I'm a prominent and successful citizen of Gotham Mercedes.  My parents were murdered in the street. As you might expect, security isn't the kind of issue I've ever been inclined to overlook. You have to remember that most criminals would prefer not to attract the attention of Batman and his allies. Or me for that matter. 


    Case closed. 

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