Should Barbara Gordon Walk Again?

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#1 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio

yes!!


its been enough time...

there is absolutely no reason for Babs to still be inthat wheelchair... i've been through this on the forums before, there are a dozen or more ways for her to walk again, with bionics or not...

Hell, Batman himself has access to Kryptonian technology that could 'reset' her back to her prime in half a second or less... then we have people with advanced healing energies / factors that could give her a transplant to repair her nerve endings... how about Cyborg? he didn't have any legswhen they originally attached the bionics to him... if he has them, why not Babs? it's not as if Bats couldn't afford it...

it's more than time for her to be up and walking again... get her back into the Batgirl outfit where she belongs!

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#2 Posted by sora_thekey (8810 posts) - - Show Bio

Either / or just don't make her Batgirl again keep her as Oracle!!!

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#3 Posted by gmanfromheck (42246 posts) - - Show Bio

I just find it interesting that she was shot 21 years after her introduction and now it's been 21 years since she was shot.  Hmmmm....

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#4 Posted by sora_thekey (8810 posts) - - Show Bio

21 is a lucky number

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#5 Posted by Erik (32504 posts) - - Show Bio

I think she should be able to at least walk again. I do not care so much if she jumps back into the suit though. I actually like her as Oracle and think she should stay in that role. But I really do think she has been in the chair long enough. 

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#6 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

What would happen to Cassandra if she became Batgirl again?

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#7 Posted by Erik (32504 posts) - - Show Bio
G-Man said:
"I just find it interesting that she was shot 21 years after her introduction and now it's been 21 years since she was shot.  Hmmmm...."
Hmmm..... Good point. Do they intend to break and mend her spine every 21 years? Now that would be interesting. 
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#8 Posted by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio

Baman #666, she's the commissioner, and still in a wheelchair. (future)

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#9 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio
G-Man said:
"I just find it interesting that she was shot 21 years after her introduction and now it's been 21 years since she was shot.  Hmmmm...."

yeah, that is pretty ominous... and as you said, Zatanna could fix it, or there are a half dozen other ways for her legs to be fixed...

i do think that this "Cure" storyline will result in her walking again, especially with the sheer amount of the Anti-Life Equation that she now knows about on earth...

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#10 Edited by Nahero (9350 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah it'd be great to see her fight crime so that way she won't have to be a useless DC version of prof X i mean he is useful but he can be more useful if could still walk thats what i mean

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#11 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio
Voidheart said:
"Baman #666, she's the commissioner, and still in a wheelchair. (future)"

So?

no future storylines ever published by DC are canon... they all change with different writers...

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#12 Posted by geraldthesloth (32689 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"What would happen to Cassandra if she became Batgirl again?"
Kill her

i wont mind
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#13 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio
Nahero said:
"yeah it'd be great to see her fight crime so that way she won't have to be a useless DC version of prof X i mean he is useful but he can be more useful if could still walk thats what i mean"
Xavier walks.
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#14 Posted by gmanfromheck (42246 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"G-Man said:
"I just find it interesting that she was shot 21 years after her introduction and now it's been 21 years since she was shot.  Hmmmm...."
yeah, that is pretty ominous... and as you said, Zatanna could fix it, or there are a half dozen other ways for her legs to be fixed...i do think that this "Cure" storyline will result in her walking again, especially with the sheer amount of the Anti-Life Equation that she now knows about on earth...M"
Exactly.  The whole page about the phantom pain is just too much for a coincidence.  And, as I mentioned in the video, she wouldn't or shouldn't go back to being Batgirl and there already is a Batwoman.  She can stay Oracle.  Oooooor, why not become BatMAN?  If Maya Lopez could wear a padded suit and dress as Ronin...

Actually, I'm kidding about that.
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#15 Posted by Erik (32504 posts) - - Show Bio

I also think that if she could walk again, she would not be a super hero again. She admitted to Cassandra once that she was really stupid when she was younger. She lacked the ability she should have had to be safe.

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#16 Edited by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"I also think that if she could walk again, she would not be a super hero again. She admitted to Cassandra once that she was really stupid when she was younger. She lacked the ability she should have had to be safe."
But she's lived and learned... plus what happened at the end of that oracle issue would make her want to suit up again, IMO
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#17 Posted by Erik (32504 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh I see. Well I missed it so I need to pick it up next week. 

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#18 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio
G-Man said:
Exactly.  The whole page about the phantom pain is just too much for a coincidence.  And, as I mentioned in the video, she wouldn't or shouldn't go back to being Batgirl and there already is a Batwoman.  She can stay Oracle.  Oooooor, why not become BatMAN?  If Maya Lopez could wear a padded suit and dress as Ronin...Actually, I'm kidding about that."

yeah... the phantom pain bit did make me really think...

this issue was one of the best i've read in a while, and i do really hope that it ends in Babs walking again...

we know who will be replacing Batman after all, so if Babs can be walking again, maybe she could be the sidekick that she , and HE, always wanted her to be... and make a lot of fans happy at the same time lol

i left that deliberately vague, for those of you who don't want it spoiled lol

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#19 Posted by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio
Methos said:
"Voidheart said:
"Baman #666, she's the commissioner, and still in a wheelchair. (future)"
So?no future storylines ever published by DC are canon... they all change with different writers...M"
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#20 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

I think her being HIS sidekick would make me sick. They're practically equals, it'd seem like a demotion.

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#21 Posted by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio

feminists around the world unite

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#22 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"I think her being HIS sidekick would make me sick. They're practically equals, it'd seem like a demotion. "

exactly... equals, a partnership... as it always should have been...

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#23 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

then she should be the Woman to his Man.

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#24 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio

that could work... we don't know how Batwoman will work out after the Cowl storyline...

maybe she could take over Batwoman and tie the two together properly

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#25 Posted by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio

cant imagine her in a robin costume D:

she'd have to be Batwoman, but for that the other ones gotta get out of the way

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#26 Posted by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio

wasnt it said that Batwoman was supposed to take over Detective Comics anyway?

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#27 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

for a whole year.

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#28 Edited by gmanfromheck (42246 posts) - - Show Bio
Voidheart said:
"wasnt it said that Batwoman was supposed to take over Detective Comics anyway?"
Yes
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#29 Posted by Methos (40531 posts) - - Show Bio

Failing that, give her a Pink Lantern ring.... she's known love and loss... much like Carol Ferris... she'd make an amazing Star Sapphire, and then that would give Bat's a reason to get involved with the Corps war

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#30 Edited by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"for a whole year."
G-Man said:
"Voidheart said:
"wasnt it said that Batwoman was supposed to take over Detective Comics anyway?"
Yes"
well then if the current batwoman isn't capable of such success then they could bring in the old and successful one (wheels) give a polish and viola, one year of success, plus, answer to your question.
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#31 Edited by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

Barbra became a better character after being crippled in my opinion. As Batgirl she was corny and a bit annoying. As Oracle it seems like the DC writers put more effort into making her an intelligent/tech support type character, as opposed to just another Bat member with crazy acrobatic skills. However, I believe she could still fit in this role even with the use of her legs. To me it seems pretty silly that with all the resources the Bat-Family have, they have yet to come up with a way to overcome her condition. It wouldn't bother me if Barbra Gordon was once again able to walk (through whatever means). This issue was pretty bad though (bad as in awful). One thing that I thought was interesting (besides the Phantom Pains) was the mentioning of the Anti-Life Equation. Hmmmm

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#32 Edited by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio

Even people in their real life who have lost limbs or feeling in them have mentioned phantom pains.

But Gambler did you mean you liked this issue or didn't like this issue when you called it Bad?

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#33 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Even people in their real life who have lost limbs or feeling in them have mentioned phantom pains. But Gambler did you mean you liked this issue or didn't like this issue when you called it Bad?"
Bad as in awful.
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#34 Posted by Psychotime (821 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know. I think it'd be pretty stupid, but whatever, it's a comic book. If people can die and come back, then I guess they could do that. Besides, the KIlling Joke was just a one shot that DC decided to make into continuity. I guess they're regretting it now.

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#35 Posted by pixelized (49086 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"pixelized said:
"Even people in their real life who have lost limbs or feeling in them have mentioned phantom pains. But Gambler did you mean you liked this issue or didn't like this issue when you called it Bad?"
Bad as in awful."
Even the ending?
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#36 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1673 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm looking forward to finding out.

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#37 Posted by Rod12 (87 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea Barbara Gordon should Walk again it would be great too se her return as Batgirl. But having her possible be the Batwoman or a member of the Star Sapphire Corps is also a great idea. But lets see Barbara Gordon walk again.

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#38 Posted by vance_astro (89968 posts) - - Show Bio

If Barbara has been introduced cripple I would say she never needs to walk but she was not...so I would like to see the real Batgirl walk again.

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#39 Posted by deactivated-579fe0ae58107 (1318 posts) - - Show Bio

I remember her as Batgirl and she was pretty goofy and silly, trying so hard to be as good, if not better than Robin and Batman's equal. Looking back, I don't think the writers/editors back then got female characters. It's almost embarassing to look back at how Batgirl, Hawkgirl, Supergirl, Wonder Girl and Wonder Woman were handled. As much as I would like to see how she would be something more in the Batman family now - what would she be? Robin? Flamebird? Batwoman? Huntress? Or something new entirely? I was disappointed that she was shot and crippled; but at the same time, she just might be a role model for people who don't have the means to "fix" their situation. Cyborg was used as a positive role model for kids that had prosthetics. As Oracle, she has become such a strong character and support character to just about every other character in the DCU. 

Besides, for a guy who works alone, he's got a pretty big family...and everybody wants in...     

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#40 Posted by G'bandit (13664 posts) - - Show Bio

She should get her legs but not the Batgirl costume, she should remain been the Oracle but an Oracle that can kick anyone's ass.. Literally XD

That's what I think :) Or Maybe she'll be female Nightwing XD I mean, she is training with two sticks :P

 Anyway, the thing is that I like the new Batsy Girl a bit more than Barbie as Batsy girl :)

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#41 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Gambler said:
"pixelized said:
"Even people in their real life who have lost limbs or feeling in them have mentioned phantom pains. But Gambler did you mean you liked this issue or didn't like this issue when you called it Bad?"
Bad as in awful."
Even the ending?"
yeah
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#42 Posted by gmanfromheck (42246 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the issue.  I had no idea about Calculator's daughter.

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#43 Posted by superboy12 (267 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

But G man is right she should not become bat girl again because like dick grayson who went from robin the boy wonder to nightwing she becaome a hero in here own way.

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#44 Posted by DMC (2006 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be pretty surprising if Barbara walked again. From what I know DC wants Oracle as their handicap superhero

Paul Dini had this idea of putting Barbara Gordon in the Lazarus Pit to revive her...I thought it was a great idea, and we pitched then-Batman editor Denny O'Neil with these drawings of that costume design. The idea of using the red instead of the traditional yellow was meant to invoke the idea that coming from the Lazarus Pit, she was in a way, more compromised as a character...And...that went nowhere. Denny shot it down, because, according to him, everybody loves Barbara Gordon as Oracle and as a handicapped character. The theory was that DC didn't have enough handicapped characters, so they weren't going to do anything with Barbara as she was. And the design went into the drawer.
It was also mentions in another article  how they receive mail from fans who are disabled and how they appreciate the character.

Hopefully DC's initial intention for making Barbara handicap had nothing to do with Professor X. And look at him he's walking again. As appreciative as handicap fans might be of Barbara, the could like her even more if she was making attempts to walk again, going through the procedures that many handicaps go through so that they can someday walk again.

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#45 Posted by Samuraikenpo (143 posts) - - Show Bio

I think she should but thats cause I had a father who lost his legs and was a military man at that so speaking from a real human experience after putting your life on the line time and time again even when she could have just given up and never done it again. Hell Yeah let Barb do some dancing I am sure Nightwing is hurting right now.  *wink wink*

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#46 Posted by King Saturn (220735 posts) - - Show Bio
Let Dat Woman Walk  !


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#47 Edited by Dr. Maxwell (676 posts) - - Show Bio

yet after all these years she's only 22, according to the final issue of Nightwing.

Hmm..........

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#48 Posted by Truex (461 posts) - - Show Bio
Dr. Maxwell said:
"yet after all these years she's only 22, according to the final issue of Nightwing.Hmm.........."
She says that she only tells people that she's 22 to make herself feel younger
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#49 Posted by gmanfromheck (42246 posts) - - Show Bio

It's great if people in wheelchairs can relate to her.  Just like we have characters of other races.  It does bother me when it's obvious that the character is meant to appease certain groups.  I just think Barbara is her own character.   I don't know if she should be the poster superhero for disabled people.  Then again, she has been doing fine for the last 21 years.  It's a tough call.

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#50 Posted by vance_astro (89968 posts) - - Show Bio
G-Man said:
"It's great if people in wheelchairs can relate to her.  Just like we have characters of other races.  It does bother me when it's obvious that the character is meant to appease certain groups.  I just think Barbara is her own character.   I don't know if she should be the poster superhero for disabled people.  Then again, she has been doing fine for the last 21 years.  It's a tough call."
It would be better if they made a character who had to be in a wheelchair their hold life and had to deal with it growing up and things like that instead of taking an already established hero and crippling her.
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