Ultimate Comics Avengers #1 Reviewed

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Posted by gmanfromheck (42013 posts) - - Show Bio

With Ultimatum destroying just about everything and everyone in the Ultimate Universe, what's left to write about?  Taking place three weeks after Utlimatum, we see the beginning of the Ultimate " Avengers."  For a first issue, you have to have something big happen, right?  We do sort of get that.  Where will this lead to?  I suppose we'll all have to read the series to find out.
 
 

  
What did you think?  Did you feel this was a good new direction to take the characters in?  Who do you think will be on the "Avengers"?  Will it be former Ultimates members or will it be Nick's 'black ops' team?  What other characters would you like to see in this book?
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#1 Edited by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome! I was hoping you'd review at least one of the new Ultimate Comics lines. Gracias!
 
I think I agree, with you. I  might give it a 4 out of 5. It's Millar, It's Ultimate Cap. I'm happy. I wasn't really shocked by the revelation at the end because Millar said that's what was going to happen in a bunch of interviews. I also remember reading somewhere that Millar said that Ultimate Cap is getting weaker. This was quite a while ago so I'm not sure If I can find a reference but I think that is something to take into consideration. And I've heard a lot of people don't like Ultimate Hawkeye, but I think he's awesome. He's becoming one of my favorite characters.

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#2 Posted by Drafta (670 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahaha.  I love your face at the end.

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#3 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3641 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Lord!. Please, tell me he doesn't say, "I am your father.".

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#4 Posted by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio
@FoxxFireArt said:
" Oh Lord!. Please, tell me he doesn't say, "I am your father.". "
HAHA, close!
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#5 Posted by Citizen 14 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was good. I was kinda confused because this is the first "Ultimate" comic I've read, but I still really liked it. The "big" surprise sorta shocked me. 
I love the cover and the art inside.
I'd give it a 3.5 outa 5. It felt a little short to me, though.

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#6 Posted by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio
@Citizen 14: I agree. This one definitely felt very short to me.
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#7 Posted by gmanfromheck (42013 posts) - - Show Bio

As I mentioned, I was close to giving it a 4 just because it was Ulitmate Cap and Ultimate Hawkeye.  I'm not sure how I feel about Red Skull.  I wasn't expecting that announcement.  I try to avoid the spoilery interviews.  It is a little cliche but could prove interesting. 

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#8 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)? 

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#9 Posted by gmanfromheck (42013 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
" I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)?  "
Since I haven't read any interviews, I wonder if this "Avengers" will be Nick Fury's black ops team.  Or if they're working closely with SHIELD, maybe that's whey they're going by Avengers rather than Ultimates.
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#10 Posted by King Quisling (2073 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the twist was kinda.....cheesy. Will not be reading the rest of this series.

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#11 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3641 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tmul501: 
Brother?
Father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former room mate ? (Anyone remember that line?) lol
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#12 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @War Killer said:
" I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)?  "
Since I haven't read any interviews, I wonder if this "Avengers" will be Nick Fury's black ops team.  Or if they're working closely with SHIELD, maybe that's whey they're going by Avengers rather than Ultimates. "
Yeah, I was wondering if they are even going to cal themselfs the Avengers in the book, and if this is the "New" Ultimates book and that Loeb won't be returning
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#13 Posted by Captain13 (4680 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Cap and Skull are now brothers or Skull is Cap's clone.
Guess I'll have to read the issue to find out.

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#14 Posted by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @War Killer said:
" I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)?  "
Since I haven't read any interviews, I wonder if this "Avengers" will be Nick Fury's black ops team.  Or if they're working closely with SHIELD, maybe that's whey they're going by Avengers rather than Ultimates. "
Yeah, I know Loeb's New Ultimates is supposed to be the group book that handles the big baddies and has a public persona. I curious to see what develops with the "other  
avenger" that appears in this book.
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#15 Posted by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio
@FoxxFireArt said:
" @Tmul501: 
Brother?
Father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former room mate ? (Anyone remember that line?) lol "
Space Balls! You'll have to read it to find out which it is though.
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#16 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tmul501 said:
" @G-Man said:
" @War Killer said:
" I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)?  "
Since I haven't read any interviews, I wonder if this "Avengers" will be Nick Fury's black ops team.  Or if they're working closely with SHIELD, maybe that's whey they're going by Avengers rather than Ultimates. "
Yeah, I know Loeb's New Ultimates is supposed to be the group book that handles the big baddies and has a public persona. I curious to see what develops with the "other   avenger" that appears in this book. "
Yeah, I read in a intreview on I think it was IGN.com a few months ago and they had some preview art that had the Ultimates in Asgard fighting Ultimate Loki and I'm still trying to figure out if Loebs book is even still in the works
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#17 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain13 said:
"Either Cap and Skull are now brothers or Skull is Cap's clone. Guess I'll have to read the issue to find out. "
Read the issue and you'll be really suprised, I was when I found out
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#18 Posted by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
" @Tmul501 said:
" @G-Man said:
" @War Killer said:
" I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)?  "
Since I haven't read any interviews, I wonder if this "Avengers" will be Nick Fury's black ops team.  Or if they're working closely with SHIELD, maybe that's whey they're going by Avengers rather than Ultimates. "
Yeah, I know Loeb's New Ultimates is supposed to be the group book that handles the big baddies and has a public persona. I curious to see what develops with the "other   avenger" that appears in this book. "
Yeah, I read in a intreview on I think it was IGN.com a few months ago and they had some preview art that had the Ultimates in Asgard fighting Ultimate Loki and I'm still trying to figure out if Loebs book is even still in the works "
It is, Frank Cho is doing the art work. I've seen some of it. It looks amazing, but it doesn't necessarily fit in with the rest of the ultimate universe. I think in Marvel Spotlight they discuss it in quite a bit of detail (i haven't read it, but I overheard someone talking about it).
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#19 Posted by burr787 (2483 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the twist was stupid but it could lead up to something good. Overall it was a pretty good issue even though most of it was just a helicopter ride.

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#20 Edited by vaage-aina (72 posts) - - Show Bio

hahahaha the end was totally wierd. ultimates really took a liberal take on that one.....i wonder what red skull 616 would think if he met this counterpart....hahahahahhaha

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#21 Edited by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio

i was happy with how this issue turned out, although its not hard to say this is an improvement when compared to ultimatum. it didnt really have enough dialog for me though i would have prefered it to be about 35-40 pages since its a first issue for a new series, but i cant really complain they packed enough in the 23 or so pages to make it enjoyable. the only thing that got my goat was the red skulls little comment to cap, and the lack of other avenger members. other that that it was a good start to something i hope will redeem the ultimate franchise 
 
but once again ultimate stark seriously made me wish 616 tony would go back to being a drunken whore monger, instead of a sober whore monger
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#22 Posted by MJ Styles (95 posts) - - Show Bio

HAHA.  I loved the music during the scene where Red Skull whispers into Cap's ear.  HA.

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#23 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tmul501 said:
" @War Killer said:
" @Tmul501 said:
" @G-Man said:
" @War Killer said:
" I enjoyed this issue,  Mark Millar is one of the biggest reasons I'm reading comics today, when I was getting into comics I picked up Ultimates Vol.1 and I was hooked, the action, the story, and the way it felt like these characters were living in our world and not (616). I liked the issue, to me it was a quick read because it was mostly action, but I didn't mind only having two main characters just in the book, I liked how Cap and Hawkeye spoke and wokred together, and Millar's writing is always amazing to me, plus I'm a huge Ultimates fan. The thing I'm trying to figure out is that from what I've been hearing is that this isn't going to be the same team every 6 part arcs and what I wondering is that we have both USM and Ultimate Avengers, but what happened to Jeph Loebs "New Ultimates"(or what ever he's going to call it)?  "
Since I haven't read any interviews, I wonder if this "Avengers" will be Nick Fury's black ops team.  Or if they're working closely with SHIELD, maybe that's whey they're going by Avengers rather than Ultimates. "
Yeah, I know Loeb's New Ultimates is supposed to be the group book that handles the big baddies and has a public persona. I curious to see what develops with the "other   avenger" that appears in this book. "
Yeah, I read in a intreview on I think it was IGN.com a few months ago and they had some preview art that had the Ultimates in Asgard fighting Ultimate Loki and I'm still trying to figure out if Loebs book is even still in the works "
It is, Frank Cho is doing the art work. I've seen some of it. It looks amazing, but it doesn't necessarily fit in with the rest of the ultimate universe. I think in Marvel Spotlight they discuss it in quite a bit of detail (i haven't read it, but I overheard someone talking about it). "
Yeah I found some art on Cho 's site a few months ago... 

Cap and I'm guessing Valkyrie and Power Princess?
Cap and I'm guessing Valkyrie and Power Princess?


Tony and and unkown woman
Tony and and unkown woman


SPOLIER TO THOSE WHO THINK ULTIMATE THOR IS DEAD!!! ...Thor in Valhalla
SPOLIER TO THOSE WHO THINK ULTIMATE THOR IS DEAD!!! ...Thor in Valhalla


Preview art of the Ultimates fighting Loki in I think Asgard
Preview art of the Ultimates fighting Loki in I think Asgard


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#24 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@DH69 said:
"i was happy with how this issue turned out, although its not hard to say this is an improvement when compared to ultimatum. it didnt really have enough dialog for me though i would have prefered it to be about 35-40 pages since its a first issue for a new series, but i cant really complain they packed enough in the 23 or so pages to make it enjoyable. the only thing that got my goat was the red skulls little comment to cap, and the lack of other avenger members. other that that it was a good start to something i hope will redeem the ultimate franchise  but once again ultimate stark seriously made me wish 616 tony would go back to being a drunken whore monger, instead of a sober whore monger "
I did like the part with Tony, he's probably what you would turn into if you tried to be a real life superhero
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#25 Posted by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
"@DH69 said:
"i was happy with how this issue turned out, although its not hard to say this is an improvement when compared to ultimatum. it didnt really have enough dialog for me though i would have prefered it to be about 35-40 pages since its a first issue for a new series, but i cant really complain they packed enough in the 23 or so pages to make it enjoyable. the only thing that got my goat was the red skulls little comment to cap, and the lack of other avenger members. other that that it was a good start to something i hope will redeem the ultimate franchise  but once again ultimate stark seriously made me wish 616 tony would go back to being a drunken whore monger, instead of a sober whore monger "
I did like the part with Tony, he's probably what you would turn into if you tried to be a real life superhero "

if i was iron man i would be flying upside down drunk off my @$$ tipping buses over, and shooting at stop signs
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#26 Posted by reaper2923 (2863 posts) - - Show Bio

You mean Samuel L Jackson is talking to Hawkeye, seriously is it just me or does he look exactly like him?

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#27 Posted by gmanfromheck (42013 posts) - - Show Bio
@burr787 said:
" I thought the twist was stupid but it could lead up to something good. Overall it was a pretty good issue even though most of it was just a helicopter ride. "
The question is, how much of a surprise was it for Cap?
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#28 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@reaper2923 said:
"You mean Samuel L Jackson is talking to Hawkeye, seriously is it just me or does he look exactly like him? "
Was that a joke? When Mark Millar created the character, he based Ultimate Fury after Jackson
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#29 Posted by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
"@reaper2923 said:
"You mean Samuel L Jackson is talking to Hawkeye, seriously is it just me or does he look exactly like him? "
Was that a joke? When Mark Millar created the character, he based Ultimate Fury after Jackson "

bingo, hence why jackson played him in iron man
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#30 Posted by reaper2923 (2863 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
"@reaper2923 said:
"You mean Samuel L Jackson is talking to Hawkeye, seriously is it just me or does he look exactly like him? "
Was that a joke? When Mark Millar created the character, he based Ultimate Fury after Jackson "
Well I have never read anything with the word Ultimate in it
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#31 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@reaper2923 said:
"@War Killer said:
"@reaper2923 said:
"You mean Samuel L Jackson is talking to Hawkeye, seriously is it just me or does he look exactly like him? "
Was that a joke? When Mark Millar created the character, he based Ultimate Fury after Jackson "
Well I have never read anything with the word Ultimate in it "
Oh okay, you should pick up Ultimates Vol.1, 2 and 3 they are really great books
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#32 Posted by reaper2923 (2863 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
"@reaper2923 said:
"@War Killer said:
"@reaper2923 said:
"You mean Samuel L Jackson is talking to Hawkeye, seriously is it just me or does he look exactly like him? "
Was that a joke? When Mark Millar created the character, he based Ultimate Fury after Jackson "
Well I have never read anything with the word Ultimate in it "
Oh okay, you should pick up Ultimates Vol.1, 2 and 3 they are really great books "
As long as they're not overpriced maybe
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#33 Posted by Tmul501 (601 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @burr787 said:
" I thought the twist was stupid but it could lead up to something good. Overall it was a pretty good issue even though most of it was just a helicopter ride. "
The question is, how much of a surprise was it for Cap? "
Enough to make him go awol. I can't really comment too much without giving away the secret, but I'm pretty sure that this is a shock to Cap on many levels.
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#34 Posted by reaper2923 (2863 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @burr787 said:
" I thought the twist was stupid but it could lead up to something good. Overall it was a pretty good issue even though most of it was just a helicopter ride. "
The question is, how much of a surprise was it for Cap? "
What was the suprise is Red Skull Cap's father or something?
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#35 Posted by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio
@reaper2923:  close guess very close
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#36 Posted by skaarason (693 posts) - - Show Bio

what was the shocking ending ?

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#37 Posted by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio

quick question was that ultimate A.I.M. or just some common terrorists, cause i dont remember reading anything about ultimate A.I.M. yet
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#38 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@DH69 said:
"quick question was that ultimate A.I.M. or just some common terrorists, cause i dont remember reading anything about ultimate A.I.M. yet "
Yeah, it was A.I.M., because one of the S.H.I.E.L.D. guys asked what "A.I.M." standed for on the page with Carol Danvers in it
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#39 Posted by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio

well atleast they dont look like bee keepers in that universe
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#40 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio

True, but I always liked that look for some reason

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#41 Posted by gmanfromheck (42013 posts) - - Show Bio
@MJ Styles said:
" HAHA.  I loved the music during the scene where Red Skull whispers into Cap's ear.  HA. "
It's amazing how the music can totally change the...mood of a comic.  Sometimes I spend way too much time playing around with that. 
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#42 Posted by Toastalchemist (189 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Skull looks like a biker punk.

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#43 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @MJ Styles said:
" HAHA.  I loved the music during the scene where Red Skull whispers into Cap's ear.  HA. "
It's amazing how the music can totally change the...mood of a comic.  Sometimes I spend way too much time playing around with that.  "
Yeah, but the videos are better with all of the effects you and Babs use in your videos
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#44 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:
" @MJ Styles said:
" HAHA.  I loved the music during the scene where Red Skull whispers into Cap's ear.  HA. "
It's amazing how the music can totally change the...mood of a comic.  Sometimes I spend way too much time playing around with that.  "
Yeah, but the videos are better with all of the effects you and Babs use in your videos
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#45 Posted by zombietag (1678 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont think its a big deal if its focused on two characters for now, its the first issue you know? theyre building plot

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#46 Posted by Dex (627 posts) - - Show Bio

G mannnn use blog tv one time a week so we can pick your brain POR FAVOR

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#47 Posted by Omega Flight (11 posts) - - Show Bio

i gotta know what is that music
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#48 Edited by DH69 (4324 posts) - - Show Bio

im waiting for ultimate jocasta and war machine to show up, i saw the cover of issue #3 on marvel and from the way it looked it was just janet in a suit that looked alot like her original 616
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#49 Posted by prez (12 posts) - - Show Bio
@skaarason:
red skull is the SON of cap!!!
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#50 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4172 posts) - - Show Bio

I am still undecided on this issue. I really loved the art and I am glad to see the Ultimate Avengers in the hands of a good writer. But I don't know if I like the direction with Cap and Skull. Although I actually like the design of Skull he went from Nazi General to Neo-Nazi skin head. I am still undecided.

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