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The Fate of the Ultimate Universe Revealed [Updated]

Get ready for an "All-New" Ultimate Universe.

Cataclysm is happening in the Ultimate Universe. Galactus has found his way from the 616 Universe and it hasn't been looking good. The fear was this marked the end of the entire Ultimate Universe and line of books.

You didn't really believe that would happen, did you?

It may be the end but it's also the beginning. Marvel has announced via the Associated Press that there will be hard times and sacrifices but it's not quite over just yet.

"They're able to win the day, but at great sacrifice, a sacrifice that is so huge that it changes the entire landscape," said Bendis. "It creates a place that demands a fresh start from everyone who surveys it."

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Marvel will relaunch the Ultimate Universe in April under the banner Ultimate Marvel NOW!

Axel Alonso, Marvel's Editor-in-Chief, mentioned it as an opportunity to tear things down and make them better.

"Once again, we're destroying something and building something new, but there's an end game in sight. We created the line to take chances," he said. "Dead is dead. The long and short of it is this: The Ultimate (universe) benefits from a good, old kick in the butt.

The books we can expect are MILES MORALES: ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN by Brian Michael Bendis and David Marquez, ALL-NEW ULTIMATES by Michel Fiffe and Amilcar Pinna and ULTIMATE FF by Joshua Hale Fialkov and Mario Guevara.

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Marvel has released more art.

It all starts in April with ALL-NEW ULTIMATES, from the creative team of Michel Fiffe (Copra) and Amilcar Pinna (X-Men: First Class). Spider-Man, Black Widow (formally Spider-Woman), Kitty Pryde, Bombshell, Cloak & Dagger officially unite to tackle the vicious, rampant crime wave overtaking Hell’s Kitchen! But can this new team of Ultimates stand up to the murderous gang known only as the Serpent Skulls?

Ultimate Marvel NOW! continues through the spring of 2014 with the launch of ULTIMATE FF by Joshua Hale Fialkov (Cataclysm: Ultimate X-Men) and upcoming superstar artist, Mario Guevara. The FF - Future Foundation - is all that stands between the Ultimate universe and COMPLETE AND UTTER DOOM! Can Sue Storm, Tony Stark, Machine Man and Sam Wilson face the oncoming devastation directly after the events of Cataclysm?

And finally, Miles Morales is back in his own web-slinging solo-series, MILES MORALES: ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN by creator Brian Michael Bendis (Ultimate Spider-Man, All-New X-Men) and artist Dave Marquez (Cataclysm: Ultimate Comics Spider-Man, All-New X-Men). In the wake of earth-shattering events, Miles is back in action with a new status quo and a new outlook on life! But there is no time to sit back and relax. A BIG villain from Peter Parker’s past is alive and well and about to turn New York upside down.

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I have been waiting for a new Ultimate FF series for several years. I hope I will be a happy camper with the results.

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@yung_ancient_one: Seeing Pete Parker go from a rookie to a guy with some experience is what I want. Seeing Pete die so Miles can be Pete ver2 and start from scratch? It's the same thing from jump for a second time. So if anything killing off a character and bringing back his "clone" is exactly that limit you say you don't want.

And sure, Marvel can kill off a character I've been reading for over ten years. And depending on the hows and whys maybe I will find a new favorite. But the Ultimate U hasn't been like that.

Daredevil Drowned off panel. So did half of the X-Men. Reed turned out to be the Ultimate Universe's Doc Doom, and while the idea is interesting, it still is needless because Doom is a second stringer and the FF don't really exist at this point. Wolverine and Spider-Man both went down like a champ. But We get second rate knockoffs in Jimmy Hudson and Miles Morales.

The point is that if a medium people sink money into treats the fanbase poorly, the fanbase moves on. Sure Marvel may hook some new people with all the bright new number one issues, but alienating a fanbase who wants to buy the product is stupid. Comics are a dying medium as it is. Killing off great characters who I've followed for a decade or more is a great way for Marvel to tell me they don't give a F***. So why should I give them my money? I don't want to read about second rate Spider-Man or knockoff Wolverine. I'll go read Luthor Strode or Invincible instead.

I respect your point of view but I don't see it that same way.

I. How many times did we see Parker start as a rookie and become a pro? I feel like Parker's story has been told a million times.

II. Miles Morales and Jimmy Hudson are not lame in my opinion. I actually prefer Hudson over Logan.

III. I honestly don't see it as a big issue that characters drowned off panel, it was to emphasize the evil act that Magneto committed. Plus, most of them exist in the 616 Universe so it wasn't like a "official" fair well for them.

IV. I personally don't understand with the issue of renumbering issues. If Scarlet Spider didn't end and instead just got renumbered I wouldn't care.

V. Saying "I'll read Luthor Strode instead," is exactly what I am talking about of finding a new favorite. It is easy solution if I do not like the product then I find another one. If they are making a bad decision then so what? It isn't my problem. I can always find a new medium.

VI. Honestly, I think in all mediums it is the average supporter or the casual supporter that carries a medium. However, I do think the hardcore fans are important and carry the medium when things go bad. At the same time, when times get hard for the medium, the hardcore fans have the power to destroy that medium.

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@master_thief: Miles is currently 14 going on 15 as the book time skipped when he was 13 going on 14 by one year.

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They really need to bring eddie brock back

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Who is the redhead on the far right in the ultimate pics? I haven't read Ultimate comics in a long long time but she is the only one i dont recognize.

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@teerack said:

Who is the redhead on the far right in the ultimate pics? I haven't read Ultimate comics in a long long time but she is the only one i dont recognize.

Jessica Drew aka Spider-Woman

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go home Marvel, you're drunk.

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@grenadeflow said:

@teerack said:

Who is the redhead on the far right in the ultimate pics? I haven't read Ultimate comics in a long long time but she is the only one i dont recognize.

Jessica Drew aka Spider-Woman

Oh I thought Jessica was the one in the hoodie? Who is the girl on her phone then?

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@teerack said:

@grenadeflow said:

@teerack said:

Who is the redhead on the far right in the ultimate pics? I haven't read Ultimate comics in a long long time but she is the only one i dont recognize.

Jessica Drew aka Spider-Woman

Oh I thought Jessica was the one in the hoodie? Who is the girl on her phone then?

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Painful to watch this. Might as well call it Ultimatum: Part Deus.

However, there have been good stories since Ultimatum. Fialkov in particular has given us some great material. I've been on this "ultimate" ride since Bendis and Bagely debuted Ultimate Spiderman and I'm not about to quit now. Here's to hoping this ends up being another Ultimate Enemy as opposed to a Ultimates 3.

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Hmmm... interesting, I'll be looking forward to this

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LEt's give this a try

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@danhimself: didnt mean to upset any by that. my comment should have read : i feel there is no need for it since i dont read it, so to peak my interest they could have destroyed it. then i would read the last few issues to watch everything crash and burn. Everyone else can carry on reading it :)

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Painful to watch this. Might as well call it Ultimatum: Part Deus.

However, there have been good stories since Ultimatum. Fialkov in particular has given us some great material. I've been on this "ultimate" ride since Bendis and Bagely debuted Ultimate Spiderman and I'm not about to quit now. Here's to hoping this ends up being another Ultimate Enemy as opposed to a Ultimates 3.

I don't know why you're saying that it's painful to watch....Cataclysm has been a great read so far...it's been nothing like Ultimatum

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@mr_athrilla said:

@cadencev2 said:

@laflux said:

@cadencev2. What do you think? Personally I would have preferred for their not to be a retcon, but I can't deny that I am very pleased the ultimate universe is going to carry on :)

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/ultimate-universe-isn-t-over-marvel-announces-rela-1527388/#23

Im slightly angry. I want to know right now if my second Favorite character is dead. Ultimate Cap.

My favorite Ultimate Characters so far.

  • Ultimate Goblin (Dead)
  • Ultimate Doc Ock (Dead)
  • Ultimate Peter Parker (Dead)
  • Ultimate Wolverine (Dead)
  • Ultimate Thor (Dead, then Resurrected, now maybe Dead)
  • Ultimate Captain America (Dead, then Resurrected, now maybe Dead)
  • Ultimate Miles (Alive)
  • Ultimate Invisible Woman (Alive)
  • Ultimate Reed (Alive)

As seen, Im quickly losing my favorite characters in this crap!

I don't think Ultimate Goblin is dead. He was smiling after Perter crushed him with a truck.They are probably gonna have him fight Miles in an upcoming story arc as a rite of passage.

I hope so, that BE SWEET!

Honestly, I sincerely hope its not Norman...His final battle with Peter was the moment where Pete was totally victorious against that scum-bag. Bringing him back would cheapen Petes last moment of badassness...crushing him with a truck. I'm hoping more along the lines of the kingpin with the enforcers, etc..

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go home Marvel, you're drunk.

ultimate fantastic four looks like garbage

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@nickxh said:

People still reading the Ultimate books?

not after this crap theyre going to put out

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@cadencev2: Oh that's right, I had forgotten about that scene... Still, it was a very small scene with no dialogue. They can still dwell in the series on the fact that they technically dated!

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@teerack said:

Who is the redhead on the far right in the ultimate pics? I haven't read Ultimate comics in a long long time but she is the only one i dont recognize.

Jessica Drew aka Spider-Woman

She's Black Widow now...

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Well, they keep trying this. Not that it's a bad thing, but this "try anything" sometimes feels like "try everything" because nothing lasts. The ultimate universe mutants especially seem to get the short end of things.

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I dig Fiffe's style and I really like Miles, so I'll give All-New Ultimates a shot.

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I wonder why adding kitty pride, i really like "spidey & his ultimate friends " better as they are.

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I wonder why adding kitty pride, i really like "spidey & his ultimate friends " better as they are.

They're probably going to drastically screw over the remaining X-Men or Kitty being on the Ultimates will be some sort of a PR thing "Not all Mutants are bad."

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@violetphoenix said:

go home Marvel, you're drunk.

ultimate fantastic four looks like garbage

It could be better.....yes

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@yung_ancient_one: Was offline a few days. Sorry about late reply.

Indeed we see Spider-man's origin often enough with Batman and Superman. It's the price we pay with having such popular heroes. Killing Pete to rehash another origin doesn't make your point, it helps mine.

2. You prefer Hudson and Morales? Oi. Well that explains most of our disagreement. You got something you like. I had something of mine taken away.

3. Treating a character bad is treating a character bad. And the character from the Ultimate U is not the same one in the 616. 616 Hulk doesn't eat people. They may both be big muscle guys who punch stuff but comparing Ult Hulk to 616 Hulk is like comparing Human Torch to Night Thrasher. Comparing Ult Spider-man to the 616 is like comparing him to Moon Knight. The Ultimate U. had different scenarios, different motivations and what not. They are not carbon copies for anybody willing to look closely.

4 I read in trade. Renumbering is more an issue when it gets done all the time and I need to recall what volume goes first. It's a nuisance more then a problem.

5. Sure I'll try to move on. But I may get alienated to the point where I leave comics again. Did it as a teen when Wolverine lost his Adamantium, the Hulk turned to Banner with savage mind when angry Spider-Clone Saga etc. I'll try to fill in the gaps when I quit paying for a bad product, but the truth is guys like Cap, Wolverine, Spidey, Superman and the rest are my first loves. I don't want to have to replace them. I can move on, I don't want to. I certainly won't reward Marvel for their lack of loyalty to me as a consumer so I won't replace my fallen heroes with new Marvel heroes. I'll move to publishers who don't have their heads firmly stuck up their backsides. Sadly, Marvel hasn't learned much since it's 90's bankruptcy that "events" and speculators are bad for the market.

6. Comics are not carried by the average supporter. Movie and games and such peripheral properties and such, but comics themselves, no. Comics are picked up by a casual supporter who becomes a fan or dropped. Why do you think Marvel keeps dinking up the status quo to make it so it matches the movies? They want the casual fans to pick up a book based on that movie they liked, enjoy the book and start shelling out money regularly for that book.

As it stands, from what it seems, Ultimate Marvel is something that I'll likely put down. Maybe the new guys will stand by it as long as I have, maybe not. All I know is that Marvel is walking a tightrope with me and it looks like they lost it. Third strike and I am out.

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I knew the ultimate universe would not be destroyed, although a reboot would be nice just to erase ultimatum, (which was the worst story ever!!!) bring back the characters, but let the dead means dead rule apply and make their deaths meaningful and right.

In my opinion, Jessica Drew should be named Scarlet Spider rather than Black widow.

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I really miss Miles and Jessica! :( Can't wait for April.

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The ultimate universe has not been the same due to Jeph Leob's machinations via ultimatum, which left it confusing I hope the ultimate universe will be easier to understand and enjoyable as i still see potential.