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Off My Mind: Is Superman the USA's #1 Hero?

If the world's in danger, is Superman our only hope?

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Superman and the United States of America still love each other. Just a few weeks ago, many people were shocked when Superman apparently decided to renounce his U.S. citizenship in Action Comics #900. Many news outlets were disappointed that he would make this proclamation when he's always been known for his "Truth, justice and the American way" philosophy.

If you read at the story, you know this was blown out of proportion. Superman wasn't saying goodbye to the United States or making a statement that he no longer believed in what the red, white and blue stands for. He was making a point that his mission is to save the world. If he needs to chase a threat like Doomsday or Brainiac into a country that doesn't have open borders with the United States, they could make the accusation that Superman's presence is an act of war by the U.S.

Two weeks later, whether it was a coincidence or DC did some magic to include a follow up at the end of Superman #711, Superman made it perfectly clear that he still firmly believes in what the American way.

As if that scene wasn't enough to show there were no hard feelings, in last week's Action Comics #901, the President of the United States (clearly depicted as President Obama) pretty much proclaimed Superman was Earth's only savior.

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When Earth was minutes away from total destruction, a call went out to the Justice League of America and other heroes. For some reason, not a single hero could be reached. The President did the only thing he could, he put out the call the Superman, stating "Your country needs you now!"

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Superman is capable of many...super feats but the idea that he is the one and only hero that could save Earth from this particular threat felt like a bit much. Honestly, this feels like a way to show us readers that Superman and the United States have patched things up and they both still love each other.

It's hard to believe that the President wouldn't be able to contact any other superhero. If a giant mass was headed towards Earth and it couldn't simply be destroyed by missiles, what could Superman do? He no longer has the strength or ability to move planet sized objects. He can't use super-breathe to blow it away. A super-punch obviously would have the same disastrous results as missiles. The President should be trying to contact the super-intelligent heroes out there. What about the mystical ones? Couldn't they gather all the magicians to open some magical portal to save the day?

The United States loves Superman and Superman still loves the United States. The message should be clear now. I love the United States as well. It's great seeing some love shown but enough is enough. We get it. I don't think we need to see another mention of Superman being a patriot and so forth. Maybe it's just that the President didn't get word that the United States is no longer Superman's country.

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I just think if the Earth was in danger, they would have some sort of technology to take care of some giant mass heading towards the planet. I like Superman but I don't see him as Earth's only hope. The governments of the world are bound to have different alien technology they've gathered over the years. With all the threats they've had from alien invasions (I brought up before if they know aliens exist or if they are in denial), I'd think they would have some sort of giant canon to deal with any oncoming threats.

Superman does have his hands full fighting the Doomsdays. I wonder if the President will still think highly of him if he fails to stop this threat. Then again, if Superman does fail, the Earth will be destroyed. Guess that means no more Superman loves/hates the U.S. references in the comics.

Is Superman the only one that could save Earth?

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Nope, it's Captain America.

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Superman is not  american clark is superman for me is an international icon

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@perry_411 said:

Nope, it's Captain America.

I strong disagree, because Superman represent was good about America. 
 
@darkrider said:

Superman is not American Clark is superman for me is an international icon

Sense his married to Lois and raised by the Kent's, his legally American even if his from another plant. 
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While I agree with the article that there are other options in the DCU to deal with threats. If a giant space threat was headed for us rather than contacting just one person the comic savvy govermnent contacts the JLU, that way you get all the smart ones and all the strong ones. And that has always been one of Superman's key personality traits anyway, he does not stand on pride. If he needed help he would ask for it. If Superman alone cannot stop an asteroid, then certainly Supes + Martian Manhunter + Wonder Woman + Superboy + Supergirl + Green Lantern could do it.  
 
And I totally agree we dont need any more 'is Superman patriotic' discussions. Its kind of obvious that he is. But in accordance with that patriotism he is uniquely aware of his status as Earth's champion. And that goes along with him being the 'only hope'. While he might not be able to face all threats solo, he is still Earth's champion in that he is the strongest and (and this is very important) he represents all that is good about humanity. I can think of no better champion!

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cap is ,superman is i think represents earth in dc

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Is Superman all that stands between the Earth and an asteroid apocalypse? 
 
No... there is another... 
 
 
 

 
Oh wait, they haven't renounced their citizenship yet, so the world won't ruffle its delicate feelings when they save those sovereign, bickering nations! Couldn't they have stopped to let the planet know the U.S. of A. fifn't intend to give the impression we would pwn the world after saving it?! For shame!  
 
You go ahead and sing Kum Ba Ya, Supes, while you cool your heels waiting for France and Belgium to give you permission to stop some "man-caused disasters." 
 
Thanks, Superman #900, and D.C., for a P.C. disaster!
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"Couldn't they have stopped to let the planet know the U.S. of A. fifn't intend to give the impression we would pwn the world after saving it?! " 
 
 
Er, my rants are so much more awe-inspiring when I spell "didn't" correctly. Hunt and peck, much? 
 
Too much caffeine... and Four-Loco... and caffeine... :)
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@jubilee042 said:
cap is ,superman is i think represents earth in dc
That's what I was gonna say :P
 
Superman's always been more of "Earth's #1 Hero"!
I mean, we always end up seeing him fly all over the planet in any story.. ("New Krypton", "For Tomorrow", etc..)
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At the end of the day does it really matter? The Earth needed it's ass saved and Superman did what he does best and saved the day - for the eight millionth time. The heroes of the planet couldn't be reached so they called the one they know could and would do the job.
 
The thing about Superman is that he doesn't fight for any country, he doesn't fight for a flag , he doesn't fight for a planet; he fights for people, he fights for those that can't fight for themselves. He fights for what he knows is right; sometimes that means doing something that will inflame every dick on an internet forum who will demonize him for being un-American and bicker and bitch on his patriotism or his status as an American icon. The world we live in today is built on this pseudo-controversial crap filling our minds with this idle nonsense.
 
When you get right down to it, Superman is a hero. End of discussion.

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Actually modern Superman can move planet sized objects. He was able to turn the endless gears of Mageddon which dwarfed the entire solar system, move dwarf planets single handed and toss a ship the size of the moon. He just has more difficulty in doing so than the Silver Age Superman would. And since the ship is moving at a fast speed he may not be able to stop it just like he failed to stop Brainiac's ship from crashing into Kandor. And to me being British Superman is an international hero the protector of all humanity not just American.

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I never saw Superman as an American hero. Sure, on paper, he was an American... he maybe still is, I don't know. But he's a man who can fly around the world in a heartbeat, whose sole mission is to make the day better for everyone involved.  Borders should not matter to him much as they are an abstract concept often defined by geography (which doesn't matter in Superman's case).
 
He occasionally is pushing some sort of agenda or another, but hey, the man's mainly busy punching aliens from the planet Her'P-Derr'p in the face. Or a Cyborg built by alien zombies or something. If you tell that thing that you do or don't support the war in Iraq, what's it going to mean to it? It's a being that is hellbent on either destroying, invading or otherwise harming the entire planet, so a comparably petty quarrel between two earth-people won't bother it.

It does however make sense that Superman should not be a citizen of one nation. Or, actually, I would have expected the governments or the UN or some sort of international alliance of clerical things involving all things heroic and/or villainous to come up with some sort of "This man/woman acts in the general interest of humanity itself, not the nation that is on his passport"-thing. Because let's say Superman gets punched to New Guinea by Doomsday... what's New Guinea going to do? Tell Superman that he's committing an act of war by simply being punched? That's idiotic in its very basic premise.
 
Also, Superman's saved the planet a billion times since last Friday. Nobody would believe that he's actually bringing harm to the Earth. And if you do, you're probably some lunatic leader like Ghadhafi or Chavez who have basic issues with reality and their perception thereof. Nobody takes them seriously anymore and so the entire issue would be a moot point.
 
In addition to all that, there's this little tiny bit where the American Way, at least the one Superman's trying to live by, is something the entire Western Civilization has taken on. It's no longer a uniquely American concept, just as the American Dream is no longer only American. It's a global thing. And in the mindset of the people of the Western World, the USA has taken over.

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The fact  that Cap's name is "Captain America" doesnt mean he is autimatically the "americanest hero".  
To me,the character who portrays the most the "american way" is The Punisher.He knows what he has to do,No apologizes and get always the Job done no matter what. 
Actually,I would say The Punisher or Cyclops. 
 
Superman is the greatest hero of all time,but he belongs to earth.In fact,Superman looks more like a deity,a living god(in a religious way).

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@darkrider said:
Superman is not  american clark is superman for me is an international icon
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Captain Marvel would have handled it

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If the USA is to represent what it's trying to represent as an 'idea', there is no #1 hero. 
There's a team of them, big or small, great or dull, they all represent the meaning of nation united. 
 
I think Supes actually understands that better than most of the leaders in the funny pages. 
He's not out there trying to save a country, he's out there trying to show humanity there's hope.

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I'll take Captain America as my hero for the U.S. 
Superman was made and created as a hero to be the best and unstoppable, Its really dumb if you ask me but he's more of Earth hero, not americas
Cyclops is another one who reps the U.S. well, as in who he is as a character is like being america. 
 
Just my opinions tho, i respect anybody's opinion that differs.

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Couldn't Zatanna just have waved her hand and made the threat disappear, give Superman the night off.

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@caesarsghost said:

And I totally agree we dont need any more 'is Superman patriotic' discussions. Its kind of obvious that he is. But in accordance with that patriotism he is uniquely aware of his status as Earth's champion. And that goes along with him being the 'only hope'. While he might not be able to face all threats solo, he is still Earth's champion in that he is the strongest and (and this is very important) he represents all that is good about humanity. I can think of no better champion!

I keep trying to figure out why there are constant discussions of whether or not the character is patriotic. Wouldn't it be a better use of time discussing why the writers seem to have a preoccupation with calling Superman's patriotism into question?
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Superman is the Universes greates super-hero. He started out in the US, moved onto the world and then will move on to the rest of the universe.
now as for the US all i can say is this.
Super-Soldier. 

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Wasn't Superman created by a Canadian?

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@MrCipher said:

@caesarsghost said:

And I totally agree we dont need any more 'is Superman patriotic' discussions. Its kind of obvious that he is. But in accordance with that patriotism he is uniquely aware of his status as Earth's champion. And that goes along with him being the 'only hope'. While he might not be able to face all threats solo, he is still Earth's champion in that he is the strongest and (and this is very important) he represents all that is good about humanity. I can think of no better champion!

I keep trying to figure out why there are constant discussions of whether or not the character is patriotic. Wouldn't it be a better use of time discussing why the writers seem to have a preoccupation with calling Superman's patriotism into question?
I've actually explained that in a blog post of mine where I liken Superman to Justin Bieber, at least in concept: http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/battlepig/superman-is-not-a-justin-bieber-so-stop-treating-him-like-one/87-68799/
 
if you're having a tl;dr moment, it's because Patriotism once meant to not allow black people to drink from the same water fountain as white people.
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@perry_411 said:
Nope, it's Captain America.
True.
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normaly DC makes it very clear that their military heroes are USA's go to force. Captain Atom and Major Force, and then all the specialty forces they created. And Checkmate, Cadmus. Guys like the Metal Men... and then eventually the JSA ( as the founding fathers of heroism in the DCU).
  i think all those people officially come before Superman on the USA call list. But of course in a Superman title all previous rules are thrown to the wind for the sake of story. So instead of calling for every superhero in the world to try their best, every superhero is instead called to help Superman.
 
figures.

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cap america is the more patriotic one i guess. Superman stands for some of the ideals but belongs to the whole world. not just the us...
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I haven't picked up a single issue of DC Comics since his little Proclamation in Action Comics 900.  You can be a hero of the World and still be a citizen of a specific country.  If he proclaimed that he is not an affiliate with the US Government or any other Countires Government then that would be a whole different story.  He renounced his Citizenship. That embodies sooo much more than political stance.  Being a citizen of the United States is a special privelege with special freedoms that he just tossed away like it was nothing.    
 
Lets think about this too.  He did so because Iran threaten the US.  News Flash.  They are always looking for a way to get into with us. They will use and abuse any excuse to provoke us into an incident.  When they made a threat like this is an "Act of War" which causes a Superhero assocciated with our Country renounce his citiczenship.  They Win!  That's called Terrorism.  The act of threatening violence to induce Fear. Superman is suppose to be above such petty and trivial BS.  Apparently DC Comics doesn't think so.   
 
Regardless.  My stance against DC still remains.  I doubt I will ever come back over to them. 
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Captain America has to be Americas best symbol thats actually human but for world threats theres many options like Captain Marvel, Green Lantern probobly even Batman

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think this sums it up pretty well, Superman isn't the best america has to offer, he's the best that the world has to offer.

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Superman is an internatiol's greatest hero. Cap America is the USA's #1 hero.
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In this day and age, why does nationality even matter?  There are plenty of wonderful countries out there, and they're often ignored in the world of comics.  People complain about a lack of variety in comic books, then get upset when somebody emphasizes that they're global, and for all mankind.  What a terrible thing to declare...

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@Roninidas said:
I haven't picked up a single issue of DC Comics since his little Proclamation in Action Comics 900.   
I would that this is not the reason. If you don't like the stories, fine. But If you're refusing to buy anything because of some political statement than all you're doing if punishing yourself. No one got your message, DC hasn't "learned their lesson" and you're blaming the wrong people. Superman is not a real person, he didn't "decide" to revoke his citizenship. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at Goyer for writing the thing. I think a lot has been said over one silly little story that is most likely not even in continuity and will never be talked about again. As stupid as it is to create such a big deal out of something so small, I do find Goyer's need for such a statement to be a little ridiculous and DC's inclusion of it in such a big issue to be kind of dumb. We're celebrating 900 issues of Action Comics, how does superman revoking his citizenship celebrate that, continuity or not? It should have been left on the cutting room floor. All in all though, it isn't that big of a deal and if you like comics, read them for yourself, don't shut yourself out of entertainment just to "stick it to the man" because they don't care.
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@Xenozoic Shaman said:
In this day and age, why does nationality even matter?  There are plenty of wonderful countries out there, and they're often ignored in the world of comics.  People complain about a lack of variety in comic books, then get upset when somebody emphasizes that they're global, and for all mankind.  What a terrible thing to declare...
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@Captain_Shakespeare:  
 
Its really not punishment I've always been more of a Marvel Man myself anyways.  I recognize Superman is a fictional character, but he is written by real people with real viewpoints and real agendas.  Goyer wrote it sure, but I am banking money that there was a Laundry List of people that had to review and sign off on his story before publication.  My beef is not with Superman (in truth if he were real I don't think he would have done this) my beef is with DC Comics they are the ones that this did.  My boycott is on DC Comics as a whole.  I am sure they are not affected by one reader quiting.  I am sure if any of them were to be made aware they'd probably all laugh about it.  This isn't about them.  This isn't  punishing myself either.  This about making a stand for what I believe in and what I want and holding true to my Belief and Convictions no matter how small it may be in the big scheme of things.  Truth is I haven't even missed reading DC's titles.  I took the money that I would have spent on DC and put it into more Marvel Comics, Image, Darkhorse and Indie titles. 
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Superman is the world's greatest hero..Not USA.

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@Roninidas: No offense, but you have to get over it. It was an 8 page story written by a guy who doesn't write, and probably doesn't read comics. The whole point of the story was Superman helping Iranians protest against their tyrants. This cause an international incident. Superman then renounces citizenship to lift some of the burden off America and prevent a potential war. The whole Superheroes causing international incidents has been something discussed a bunch of times before and it was addressed.
 
As for whether Superman is America's greatest hero, I would say yes. Fame and the fact that he's a symbol to DC's America are obviously two reasons why he's considered the greatest, but this happens a lot in other areas. The top 100 hottest women/men are often famous people who have just been in hit movies, though there are people who are generally hotter. This is just how it works.
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No.. Batman is
 
 Superman is just an attention wh0re

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USA #1 superhero is Captain America.

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I'm from Argentina, I see Superman like a World icon, international icon. Captain America is an amercian icon

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@Renee: Yes and no. Siegel was American (Born in Cleveland, Ohio October 17th 1914) and Shuster was Canadian (Born in Toronto, Ontario July 10th 1914). When they were trying to sell Superman's second incarnation, his first being a villain in a short story for their high school, he was set in Cleveland, which was where the paper they were hoping he'd be picked up by was printed. When they were re-used by DC the setting was changed to Metropolis. Despite, Shuster modeled the skyline after Toronto, not Cleveland. In the following years Metropolis would change, looking more like Vancouver, Detroit, Los Angeles, and of course New York. The location of Metropolis has changed may times, its usually seen a major city in the Midwest, or on either coast. 
 
In the forties there was a set of famous cartoons by Fleischer Studios and its said Superman lives in New York, not Metropolis. Later in the seventies it was established Metropolis and Gotham were close to New York (Ask the Answer Man article). Then there is Frank Miller who says Metropolis is New York during the say and Gotham is New York at night. Either way, the modern version, I feel, is supposed to be a parallel of New York. 
 
Does that make Superman American? No. It does give him (as Clark) American citizenship. He was (clearly) born on another planet and is today as he always has been, the ultimate immigrant. 
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Unless America is in his super hero name and his outfit is very much Old Glory themed he cannot be bound just to the good old USA. 
   
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I would have to say the character that is the best representation of America has to be Captain America. 
 
That being said, if you look at both universes (DC and Marvel that is), the true embodiment of the US is found in the strong teams that exist.  Forget about "rugged individualism", the JLA and Avengers are both strong representations of America.  A bunch of different people, bringing their respective talents and abilities to the table, working together to make the US and the world a better place.  That sounds like an American Dream I can believe in.
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That really does make more sense now when put into perspective like this. In truth I never was really angry per se when that little story in AC #900 came out. I took in in stride, rolled my eyes a little, and moved on.  I see how more clearly what was being said, and while I think Supes will always stand for the ideals of 'truth, justice, and the American way', he also knows his concerns are for the entire world.  My only question is, wasn't that always clearly defined?  I ask because in many stories years prior to AC900 we saw plenty of references of Kal-El's allegiance to the US while still maintaining friendly status with the nations of the world.  One that stands out in particular is Funeral for a Friend when, at Clark's funeral, J'onn J'onnz delivered the eulogy and claimed why the world loved Superman was because of his devotion to all peoples, regardless of where they came from or what allegiances they had or what God they did indeed worship.  It seems to me with ideas like this then that we've always known that Superman was Earth's champion.

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Superman @G-Man said:

Superman and the United States of America still love each other. Just a few weeks ago, many people were shocked when Superman apparently decided to renounce his U.S. citizenship in Action Comics #900. Many news outlets were disappointed that he would make this proclamation when he's always been known for his "Truth, justice and the American way" philosophy.

Superman is pretty fucking lame for me these days. He has some great comics but I think his era is done now, he just can't cut it in the new age of comics. I think darker, down to earth, grittier characters like Wolverine ( and Xmen), Spider-Man, Batman  will out sell Superman. It's just very difficult to make that over powered optimistic boy scout story work in the modern age of comics....trying to make a darker Superman who renounced American citizenship that's bad or the dark drama of the Singer movie I'm sorry but Routh Superman was pretty lame...when they try to change Superman this dark he becomes bad and unrecognizable for me. We live in different times now and I don't know if the Superman story works anymore for the modern audiences tastes.
 
As for needing his powers there are plenty of other power houses out there
Diana, Billy, the Martian, Spectre, Phantom Stranger....its just that DC spent so much time and effort keeping the spotlight on Superman that nobody else got much attention
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Clearly there are a lot, if not most of the superheroes that "chose" to live in the USA. This is more of a clutch since it's absurd to think that the rest of the world is so far "back" compared to the USA. The idea that USA needs to have everything is pretty much equal to say women not being properly represented (skimpy outfits, perfect bodies, exploitable fighting scenes). Fact is comics sell well in the USA and in order to keep it so they've centered their heroes to be "close" to the readers so that they can get sucked in better. 
 
However you don't need to make or establish a superhero in the USA to make him a good one. Just take a look at Wolverine, he's Canadian and a well drawn out character who is not only famous but well written and has evolved into an icon in the past decades. 
 
With that being said, making Superman yet another pure USA hero not only feels wrong but it's a step down for him. He wants to be a beacon of hope for everyone, not just 1 country. Take a look at Batman. He clearly saw that he wasn't alone in his fight and there were plenty others who were willing to follow him despite their nationality. 
 
As for who best represents USA as a hero I would have to say SPIDERMAN. He's pretty much the average American bookworm that's gotten superpowers and fight his busy life to make room for heroics.

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He was still raised in America. Hes technically American. And he stands for "the American way" 
He was much more a figure of America in early DC comics.

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NO! Captain America is USA's #1 hero. 
 
Superman is the world's #1 hero.

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Eh....Superman does more damage than good in my opinion, his rouges are ultra power retard or super smart jack offs, wonder how Metropolis really stand for his presence. I'd say he's done more harm than goood
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uh....with the 1000's of heroes in all the comic universes.....why is this a question?
 
and haven't other heroes saved the world before?
 
this the best we can discuss huh?

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@cyberninja said:
NO! Captain America is USA's #1 hero.  Superman is the world's #1 hero.
Agree!
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@TheThe said:


                    The fact  that Cap's name is "Captain America" doesnt mean he is autimatically the "americanest hero".  To me,the character who portrays the most the "american way" is The Punisher.He knows what he has to do,No apologizes and get always the Job done no matter what. Actually,I would say The Punisher or Cyclops.  Superman is the greatest hero of all time,but he belongs to earth.In fact,Superman looks more like a deity,a living god(in a religious way).

                   

               

I have to say.  Punisher represents the worst of America and makes as much sense as saying Joker represents america.
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"About Superman and Batman: the former is how America views itself, the latter, darker character is how the rest of the world views America." 
 
-Michael Caine