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Do Big Scoops Ruin Films For You?

To cover these scoops, or not to cover these scoops; that is the question.

We now live in an age where potentially huge moments in films are leaked months in advance. It's good fun finding out who's cast in which role and who will direct, but I'm left wondering.. do you really want to know specifics about the film's plot, too? It's a tricky subject. There's a strong desire to be in on the latest information, but at the same rate, not many of us want movies to be spoiled for us. Now, I'll try my best to not sound like an old guy complaining about how the times are changing and all that... but truthfully, that's kind of how I feel.

When I first saw Iron Man in theaters I went into the film pretty much oblivious to what I had in store for me. In fact, I think I only viewed a few trailers and interviews during the time. I'm grateful for that because the end result was an unparalleled viewing experience. The first rotating shot of Tony stepping into the armor had me in awe. But the real treat was the post-credits scene. I had no clue whatsoever about what would come next and the result blew me away.

Back then, I had a super busy schedule in college, but now I do spend most of my time in front of my computer, trying to bring Comic Vine the latest developments on everything we care about. That said, I have a strongly mixed opinion on it. On one hand, we are indeed a business and we need to stay on top of the game. If we don't cover these huge scoops, other sites still will. This means you -- our super awesome readers -- will migrate to those other locations and, in turn, give them your traffic instead of us (your traffic gives us +5 happiness). Naturally, that's something we don't want to see. But on the other hand, I feel as though these big rumors (despite not always turning out to be true) do indeed reduce the excitement we could experience in the theater or even when the first official teaser is released. Yes, we're still beyond stoked for these things and these scoops certainly keep interest levels at an all time high, but are you okay with knowing key points before buying your ticket?

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Posted By KnightofSteel

@drphilter: yes that scene in Avengers... you're right! I could've done without seeing that in the trailer beforehand.

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Posted By drphilter

@KnightofSteel: I completely agree that trailers give FAR too much away. I think even the most simple person can rationalize during a movie "I know where this goes because I saw this in the trailer". That is honestly my biggest pet peeve, more than scoops. I admit that the net has gotten a lot better about concealing spoilers than it used to, but trailers seem fine with showing you the ending. I mean a great example is Avengers. The scene where Hulk catches Iron Man was IN the trailers had I not known that I would have been riveted. I mean sure maybe I would have thought Hulk would catch him or something but that's a mere guess. Drives me nuts!

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Posted By Spidey0528

It seems almost impossible to insulate yourself enough in today's world to avoid spoilers. Stay out of the toy section and avoid ads as well because the toys they not sell months in advance are themselves - spoilers. I guess that there must be a thirst for this information because it is very hard to avoid. I do like to be warned via - SPOILER ALERT. But there are spoilers is the comic world as well. Marvel and DC announce new titles way before plot resolutions and most of the time we know pretty much what is gonna happen in-advance.

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Posted By yo_yo_fun

Am I okay "with knowing pivotal things about films well in advance"??

HECK NO!!! I hate spoilers! They ruin the movie for me. I'm okay with knowing who will be writing, producing, directing and staring in the movie but that's as far as I want to know. Trailers should show all there needs to know.

I avoid spoilers as much as possible, I hardly go on line anyway. As long as there's a Spoiler Warning label on the articles, then people could choose whether they want to read it or not.

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Posted By KnightofSteel

I try to avoid spoilers if I can. Most sites are pretty good at warning you if you really wanna "click here" for a spoiler. So we sorta ruin it for ourselves by not showing restraint. I like to see what characters will look like in an upcoming film. An example would be a shot of Ben Kingsley as the Mandarin - I wouldn't consider that a spoiler. Or think back to when the Dark Knight was filming. Everyone couldn't wait to see what Ledger would look like as the Joker...the studio released an image, cool. The one problem I do have is trailers. I think they show too much. They don't necessarily reveal too much of the plot, but some shots I'd rather that be part of my moviegoing experience without having seen it beforehand.

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Posted By RedheadedAtrocitus

For me, I see both good and bad outta spoilers. Good in that it could give us an idea for how the upcoming movie will be, bad in just what the actual spoiler/rumor content is. In all honesty I've long learned that when I look into rumors to simply, as the old adage says, to take it with a grain of salt and not cash it in. For my part the spoilers and rumors are great because I love to get the up to date information by something I'm immediately accessing from my end and then look like I'm the entertainment hookup to my friends who don't know the latest. On the other hand I also am careful to treat these just as rumors until otherwise confirmed to be true. I say continue to bring em on...better to know something and be wrong than to know nothing at all!

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Posted By JamDamage

I don't mind spoilers at all. I like to be surprised but I don't care if I find out some spoilers. Sometimes I look for them. Some times I want someone to tell me the spoiler and I get more excited because I just have to what it is they are talking about.

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Posted By drphilter

This is a two-fold answer for me. First I will say that if it is a movie that I was on the fence about seeing, learn how it ends, I will wait for video, netflix, what have you. If it is a movie that I was really amped to see, and someone spoils it or scoops it, I will still see it, obviously, but it does take away an experience for me. I don't think spoilers make a movie bad, but it obviously does ruin the experience. I mean if you are watching Fight Club not knowing what is going to happen, that movie is a trip. If you watch it knowing key plot points then you're watching it LOOKING for those things. There is no way around it. I think people who say spoilers shouldn't matter are wrong. I know, I was one of them.

It never dawned on me the affect of spoiling an ending had on me until The Dark Knight. Somewhere, completely unwarned, before the movie came out, there was a video with Gary Oldman talking about the movie and they went into brief detail about the ending (Spoiler alert: Two-Face being in it at all, dying, and Batman taking the heat for all of Two Face's murders). I didn't quite know the context until the last 30 minutes of the movie or so, but I thought to myself, man what if I hadn't known ANYTHING?! There is a clear difference between me predicting the movie, or getting to the conclusion as the movie is going, because that's my brain working it all out. If it is simply told to me, that's like watching someone else play a video game, there's no fun in it.

It is becoming worse now with shows like Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad and Walking Dead, I have to stay off of Facebook and be very cautious of websites if I am not caught up on the show. Same with movies, some places are getting Marvel movies a week before the states, screenings, you name it. I love movies and I love experiencing them one on one. After I see it, lets talk all day about it. I don't see the point of scooping these big stories, is it to get attention? It surely can't be to sell the movie because they are giving away too much these days. I wish we could go without any story scoops about plot/story details of anything. Imagine if Batman Inc 8 hadn't been spoiled. I mean yeah, the cover wasn't subtle but it COULD have meant perhaps Damian quits as Robin or changes his name or something, when it's confirmed it's sort of like, well why even bother? Some will argue, as I did once, that it's not the end it's the journey, and sure that's true and I still give most things a chance should they be spoiled. Point is a surprise party is always better when the person doesn't know about it.

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Posted By shadowknight508

Depends on what the scoop in question is talking about. For most scoops (which tend to have spoilers), I try to avoid them as much as possible so that they do not ruin anything for me (recently, been dodging all Star Trek: Into Darkness, Man of Steel, and Iron Man 3 scoops)

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Posted By MadeinBangladesh

@kfhrfdu_89_76k said:

HATE

THEM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By Fenderxx

I dont like Spoilers and it does take effort to avoid them nowadays, However I do like hearing interviews from producers and actors that are excited about the roll and what there goals are, and what they are trying to bring to the table, you can get a sense of if they even know the source material and if you will enjoy it or not, more then any spoilers would.

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Posted By Jean199999

@KnightRise:Yeah I know right

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Posted By Timandm
@SoA said:

scoops don't because one can read the title and make their own decision against reading it . what spoils more is people putting the spoiler in the title of a thread so when you are looking for interesting threads to respond to you end up getting a spoiler for a comic or show you have yet to read/watch

THIS!  Big Time!
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Posted By The Mast

As long as they choice isn't being made for us, whatever.

I won't read articles and I won't have things spoiled. The second they're visible to people trying to avoid it is when it becomes an issue.

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Posted By Veshark

The way I see it is that there will always be rumors and spoilers pervading the Internet. We live in an age of information, and news sites are constantly trying to get the big scoop. And in my opinion, that's fine and it's alright. It's the nature of modern-day media, be it comic-book movies or anything else.

But I choose not to read them. If anyone else wants to, they're right there for you to get spoiled, but I prefer not to. Going in to Iron Man or The Dark Knight, I was blown away without knowing a thing beforehand. But for Avengers, the hype was so big and I looked up every news bit and trailer that when I finally saw the movie - I was initially disappointed because of pumped expectations and also because I felt like I already knew the plot. So I've learned my lesson, and now I steer clear of anything that might spoil the fun.

But if anyone else wants to, it's all-good. The choice is yours.

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Posted By AWeekInGeekdom

Not a fan of big scoops, trailers and such are fine but when they start reporting every single crook and cranny about a film, it leaves NOTHING to the imagination. I loved the stinger scenes because you don't know what you might get. Last time my buddies had the genius idea of spoiling me about Thanos, needless to say a quarter of the fun was sucked when I watched Avengers on screen.

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Posted By vance_astro

I don't read them.

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Posted By sethysquare

Im okay with spoilers as long as the spoiler isnt spell out in the title. i can choose not to read it.

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Posted By daltonmunnal

Just put spoiler alert in the article title (and never the spoiler itself) and maybe a note about what type of spoiler, be it that a certain character has been cast, or that a movie will be based on a certain story arch, and so forth.

Also, I don't even have to look up the Iron Man 3 post credit spoiler. What's going to happen is almost so obvious it hurts, and I kind of hope that something genuinely surprising happens instead.

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Posted By Batman242

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@shackle said:

Yeah, that's why "Lincoln" sucked; everyone knows how it ends /s

Please keep this thread spoiler-free. I'm going to eventually get that on Netflix and I'm very curious to see how that turns out!

I mean the cover was good enough proof, but c'mon, man D:

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Posted By Batman242

@TheAcidSkull said:

i just want a solo hulk film...

Weren't there like 3 already?

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Posted By InnerVenom123

I know like half of Iron Man 3 now thanks to spoilers.

Not sure if they're legit, but given the trailers I've seen, I'm gonna say they might be.

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Posted By Whatchuptu

I enjoy building my own hype for a film by following scoops online...and I think if the studio is careful about what they release, some early scoops are okay. But, when someone on the inside is 'leaking' unreleased information I think this is just sad.

I was thinking that studios could use this against people and just reveal bogus propaganda information to throw people off the scent....or use lightly radiated bills to trace the leak *ahem* - The Dark Knight.

Spoilers ain't going anywhere...but I think if you don't wana know...then just don't go online.

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Posted By DarklyDreamingDeadpool

i try to avoid every spoiler that's too big. for example, an idiot ruined the fourth season of dexter for me by spoiling the end of it. so spoilers are a bad thing..... for me at least.

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Posted By HumanTorch101

I knew about the ending scene for Iron Man before I saw it but I was glad I did because it just made me more excited about the film. I knew about the Avengers one as well and it was also super exciting. I will probably avoid any spoilers for the comic book movies this year though because I am really excited about them and I want my viewing to be as pure as possible. On the Skrulls thing, they couldn't be Skrulls since the rights for them are owned by FOX because of them having Fantastic Four. Also, the Chitauri in Avengers weren't even like the Chitauri in The Ultimates since they were just aliens and not shape-shifting aliens. It seemed like the reveal about them was just a little nod to people who knew what that name meant.

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Posted By k4tzm4n
@powerhouse1122 said:
I must disagree on this one. Big scoops are actually one of the best marketing tactics, because it gives us something to look after the film. I mean I really wasn't that interested in IronMan3 until their latest poster showed up.
You're talking about official releases by the studio. This is talking about leaks and rumors -- aka information released unofficially. 
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Posted By Kal'smahboi

I'm one that really hates spoilers. I almost wish that I didn't even have a full cast list before I see a movie (specifically a comic book movie) because you can get a general plot from the character list.
 
I also try to avoid preview clips, because I wind up seeing the best parts of a movie ahead of time, out of context, and the movie magic disappears when I actually do see it.

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Posted By powerhouse1122

I must disagree on this one. Big scoops are actually one of the best marketing tactics, because it gives us something to look after the film. I mean I really wasn't that interested in IronMan3 until their latest poster showed up.

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Posted By Big_Nasty

It is almost impossible to spoil something for me. I knew how MUA and Batman Arkham Asylum was going to end and I still bought the game.

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Posted By GrimoireMyst

@TheAcidSkull said:

@EMH_Bruce said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@EMH_Bruce said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

i just want a solo hulk film...

I second this!

But please not Planet Hulk, I don't want to cry because Caiera dies ;__;

(I mean, I already spoiled myself by reading the Story Arc summary, but still v__v°)

you should read planet hulk! it's a great story!

I will and want to! I just hadn't the time to do it.

I just already know that I will cry T__T

Maybe you will :P, can't spoil anything though !

Oh you will unless you have a heart of stone. Even my heartstrings were struck a little. lol

Back to the first post I also would love a new solo Hulk movie as well but that doesn't look like it will happen until after Avengers 2 which is odd since I did hear the rumor that Ruffalo signed at least a three to six movie (or appearance) deal with Marvel so I thought he would at least pop in for the Shield tv series.

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Posted By Pokeysteve

Didn't read the whole thing but I definitely DO NOT want to know details of plot and story. It pisses me off sooo much when I go to one of my favorite movie sites and there's a big honkin spoiler right frickin there in the title of an article.

Thank you to CV's staff for not being A-Holes like that =D

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Posted By KomicKev

You know how on the main page of your website you have the titles of your articles and then we readers click the link and it takes us to that page? If you are going to have a spoiler-ish story, then you should boldly state *SPOILER ALERT!* - - and then we can make up our own minds on whether or not to click on that link.

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Posted By k4tzm4n
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@shackle said:

Yeah, that's why "Lincoln" sucked; everyone knows how it ends /s

Please keep this thread spoiler-free. I'm going to eventually get that on Netflix and I'm very curious to see how that turns out!
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Posted By YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@k4tzm4n said:

@shackle said:

Yeah, that's why "Lincoln" sucked; everyone knows how it ends /s

Please keep this thread spoiler-free. I'm going to eventually get that on Netflix and I'm very curious to see how that turns out!
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Posted By k4tzm4n
@shackle said:

Yeah, that's why "Lincoln" sucked; everyone knows how it ends /s


Please keep this thread spoiler-free. I'm going to eventually get that on Netflix and I'm very curious to see how that turns out!
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Posted By mk111

Hmm. If its only a rumor, then I don't mind, but if its a confirmed spoiler, then I won't read it.

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Posted By jinxuandi

One of the reasons why ComicVine is my go-to source for comic-related stuff is that the staff usually DON'T spoil key plot points unless it's after release (and even then, only for really big events). I get that most sites want to get as many pageviews as possible and one easy way of doing so is to be the first to break some detail or rumor. But I would rather just watch the movie when it comes out and enjoy it. I find that if I watch trailers, read rumors/spoilers/interviews and so forth, I can only concentrate on the plot points I already knew about beforehand and how they will work into the story.

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Posted By blackkitty

It depends on what's shown to be honest. The problem with reporting is that news does not work with the movie industry to help promote the movie. Instead it takes all the information it can get, tells everyone about it and in the end all the best scenes of a movie are ruined because I've seen them 20 times already before it ever came out, not to mention the entire plot is usually given away, all surprise appearances revealed. All in all, I get excited when I first see it but, then I become so jaded and acclimated that the movie just doesn't do it for me when it finally comes out.

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Posted By lightsout

Yes

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Posted By shackle

Yeah, that's why "Lincoln" sucked; everyone knows how it ends /s

There are times when knowing plot details ruins a story, and times when it doesn't. Generally, the worse the story, the more critical it is to be surprised by plot details. Don't believe me? Do you re-read good books, or bad books? You re-read good books, because it's less about the story, and more about the TELLING. People are entirely too plot-centric today; they have no scope or understanding of the art of storytelling. In short, I don't care about spoilers, because I don't judge a story by the plot, I judge it by how effectively it was told.

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Posted By cborg

A study showed that "spoiling" the end of stories before reading them actually increased enjoyment of the story. So feeling hearing an ending beforehand hurts ones enjoyment of the story may be imagined.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2011/08/15/story-spoilers-may-boost-enjoyment

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Posted By fACEmelter88

I love spoilers! They are often given a warning so anyone who reads a spoiler knows what they are so there is always a choice. Don't cry if you read them, you know there's a possible spoiler so don't read it if you don't want to.

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Posted By chalkshark

I find spoilers are actually fairly easy to avoid. I don't even watch the trailer, unless it's playing in front of a movie I've gone to see. On the flip side, my cousin spends hours trolling the internet for every little shred of information he can find about films he has an interest in, to the point where I have to wonder why he even bothers to actually go see the film when it's finally released. To each their own.

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Posted By Bigwalt

For me personally spoilers don't bother me in the slightest.

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Posted By Ninjablade09

I like to be spoiled in trailers not on print. I like trailers because then I cant wait to see such a cool part in the trailer be in the movie. Trailer's though always make it cooler.

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Posted By CptPanda29

The trailers have already ruined like 80% of Iron Man 3, like what is there left to find out? Iron Man wins at the end?

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Edited By Jorgevy

@BlueLantern1995 said:

@EdwardWindsor said:

Spoilers are a massive double edged sword. They reveal something you want it will sell the film even more so. Spoil something important and ruin the film

this

and trailers nowadays do this a lot with specific awesome action scenes and shots

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I used to be a big spoiler hound, then I eventually quit. I find it best to go into a film with as little expectations and knowledge as possible, and when an interesting turn of events hits, I'll be genuinely surprised.

The fight against seeing spoilers is an arduous struggle, though. I'm already a bit upset that I saw some of the armors that are going to be in Iron Man 3. Thankfully, I haven't seen anything for Man of Steel besides the first two trailers.

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