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Dick Grayson's Post-FOREVER EVIL Fate Has Been Revealed

You might not believe this one.

We've all been wondering what will happen to Dick Grayson after FOREVER EVIL. In the first issue, his identity was publicly revealed. That doesn't leave too many options for a masked vigilante. Most of the speculation was that he would die or have his death faked in order to continue operating under a different guise.

While there have been some delays, Dick Grayson's fate has now been revealed.

USA Today has reported that Dick Grayson will become...a super-spy.

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The new titles will be called GRAYSON. It will be written by Tim Seeley and Tom King, a former CIA counterterrorism operations officer. Dick Grayson will have to pretend he's dead, even to his loved ones such as Batgirl (which we saw Barbara mention in last week's BATGIRL). He will be joining the spy agency Spyral, seen in BATMAN INCORPORATED.

Dick will get a new look courtesy of Mikel Janin. No more mask. He'll have a "G" on his chest as a call back to the "R" from his days as Robin.

The first issue will be on sale July 2.

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@night_thrasher: also I would LOVE to point out that the Original Sin thing that Marvel is wheeling out seems suspiciously like the Trinity War: DC's featured the Trinity of SIN, they were trying to how to open Pandora's Box (which was Pandora's ORIGINAL SIN) and why Superman would commit a MURDER, et cetera, et cetera. The similarities are there, you're just in denial

Right...I'm in denial about something that I never even mentioned! Except one's about opening a box to another dimension and the other's about God knows what because I'm not interested in Original Sin in the least bit!

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@soopacoop16: I don't think I've ever said that Marvel doesn't copy DC. But...in this particular case it's a lot of similarities to Winter Soldier that can't be overlooked. But, since you want to go there. How many of your precious DC characters are themselves considered copies? Did Batman copy Zorro? Is Superman just a retelling of the Hercules myth? Is Martian Manhunter a copy of the original Vision? I never said Marvel doesn't copy other material, I freely admitted that most companies have characters inspired by others, you're the one who got really overly defensive about it.

S/N Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has gotten a little better than Arrow recently IMO.

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@night_thrasher: also I would LOVE to point out that the Original Sin thing that Marvel is wheeling out seems suspiciously like the Trinity War: DC's featured the Trinity of SIN, they were trying to how to open Pandora's Box (which was Pandora's ORIGINAL SIN) and why Superman would commit a MURDER, et cetera, et cetera. The similarities are there, you're just in denial

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@night_thrasher: it was a comment that had a factual backing. And like your name is any better "night thrasher". One of Marvel's (very, very, very many) attempts to make a Batman clone is your username. "Marvel doesn't copy stuff leave them alone" *in a whiny fangirl voice*

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@jayaaerow:

Im sorry dude... but what its wrong to me its the lack of criativity that its so high in these new 52 that they need to change a entire multiverse and even then, after only two years to reshape the life of nightwing... I never complained he was in the batfamily or about his part as hero... To me he could be the leader of The Outsiders from these new 52 and it would be cool...

He could be the Batwing in another format not like Zavimbe or Luke Fox which was another lazy and lame solution... Or perhaps a new Owlman... because of his origins...

But a spy and be just like hes "bestie" todd which before the new 52 was crazy and i loved...

Im honestly extremly desapointed with this new 52... things supposed to be new, but all I see its the 70's back... Wally its another example... he was extremly succesfull, risk to say he was bigger then allen, barry was in the past for almost 20 years, then came Johns and he is ressurrected just to present the same stories of the 70's and 80's... and for what ?

Same thing with Bane, what Snyder did with him its a sin... Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan created Bane as a evil version of Batman, these guy had the muscles and the brain... He had planned with brilliant precision the fall of Batman, the guy its kind of genius... then came Snyder and Jonhs and turning him into a addicted idiotic gorilla that jump into Batman well aware that behind him thats a cliff... can you see that we are talking about the same guy ?

Im not even begin with these new Joker face off... It didnt impress-me it all, to me was the laziest attempt to make him scary as the Nolanverse and it was not even close to fulfill his purpuse...

Not all in the new 52 were bad, I did liked the Wonder Woman stories and the Batgirl as well the night of the owls and Batman and Robin were cool...

But in generall all I see is lack of creativity by Johns, Didio and his gang... they restart the multiverse to present the exactly the same world of the 80's, they change the suit a lil bit, put more blood in the stories, but thats was it... nothing really new... to me there were great stories to be told yet in the old Dc Universe they just were lazy about it...

Im following DC now for 25 years, see a lot of good and bad stories, what I see today its just lazyness and lack of criativity... Its more easy to kill and restart a super hero then make the effort of write a good story...

And about the Spyral its clearly DC and Warner trying to build a tv show with that... Agents of Shield its a huge success so far biggest then Arrow and It will remain bigger then the Flash, sorry about it but it will and the answer to that its pretty simple... Marvel has a direction, they know were they going with the movies by Marvel Studios... while DC is just trying to catch up and trading Bale for Affleck its not a good begining...

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Lame... Just lame...

Geoff and DiDio are trying to kill Grayson since Identity Crisis, but they were not able to do so...

Know they are killing the character taking his girl and making she a alien whore who sleeps with anything that had a dick... stealing his strong identity and delivering a ridiculous agent story so he became impopular enough to just disappear with him turning him in a agent so secret that he does not have a magazine - thats what will happen in a few months and the excuse ita gonna be bad sales...

After see the character growing so much with the true genius Grant Morrisson... We have to see this...

And prepares yourselves to The Spyral... a idiot copy of Agents of Shield produced and writed by the "genius" Geoff Johns...

Yep... while in marvel they are getting better and better at each movie and at each story... at dc we gonna have Ben Affleck as a Batman...

Thats one of the many reasons that Im seriously consider to cancel my dccomics signature...

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@soopacoop16: Yeah...you were. I mention that it's similar to Winter Soldier and you got super, or should I say "soopa", defensive with the whole "Marvel does it all the time" *in a fanboy whiney voice*

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Soooo Tim gets to be Nightwing now right?

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Sorry if someone else already pointed this out, but when I first saw the picture, before I read the title I thought they were making a Mission: Impossible comic and that was Tom Cruise's Ethan Hunt character instead of Dick.

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I love Nightwing so the fact that DC decided to ruin that persona for Dick Grayson sucks but I'm glad they aren't killing him off and keeping him in comics.

So I guess the best of a crappy situation...

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@night_thrasher: yeah because Marvel doesn't copy anything from DC. Oh wait they copy almost everything from DC!

Stop being a fanboy...I just pointed out a similarity. Companies borrow from each other all the time. We wouldn't even have Image Comics if they didn't. Practically all of the original Image line up was rehashed Marvel properties. Sheeeeesh!!!

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@smoothjammin:

One: You're describing the old Spyral. It has a recent change of leadership. The Original Batwoman was part of that organization and it was heavily hinted that Agent Zero was her biological father. The second portion of Batman Inc. that was in the New 52 actually revealed she wasn't killed by Bronze Tiger but actually was the "Headmistress" of Spyral. She's heavily hinted to be it's new leader. So Grayson is not working with THAT Spyral. That's the one Professor Pyg was involved and how he got craycray. xD Kathy Kane fooled even Batman so she's good on keeping off the Grid but doing work! That's the current Spyral I'm sure they're exploring. Their goals and motives seem to change but the writer of Grayson hinted they still use some old methods. I wanna see Grayson get on them for that!

Two: No. He can't be Nightwing due to Forever Evil. The 2 people you mention were costumed but they also didn't get outed as a Superhero. Sorry, the Nightwing mantle cannot be in use for quite some time. It be a dead giveaway that he's still alive. He has a haircut for a reason. He also wears something new and has a gun(And everyone thinks he's dead. If he looks different enough and sports things you wouldn't catch Nightwing wearing regularly like a gun and play the Kathy Kane hidden card, you can remain unnotice in your real identity.)

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Fave character but this is just a big NO

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@night_thrasher: yeah because Marvel doesn't copy anything from DC. Oh wait they copy almost everything from DC!

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He should work for a guy with an eye-patch!

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He should work for Kenpatchi!

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I don't think Dick is anything like Bucky....very different pasts, situations etc.

On a sidenote, I wonder if we'll see Dick work with Steve Trevor in the future. Hmmm

@lee12761 said:

My guess is that if this takes off, look for a new TV series next fall or the year after. Warner and DC's answer to Agents of Shield.

AOS was really an answer to Smallville's success and trying to use the momentum from Avengers. Besides, I really don't think DC needs an answer to AOS since they already have Arrow and soon Flash coming...among few other projects.

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Lol comic book fans in a nutshell

DC kills nightwing: No DC!! You bastards you killed my favorite character!

DC changes nightwings status quo: No DC!! You bastards ruined my favorite character!

DC does nothing with nightwing: DC never takes any risk or does anything new :/

Why can't we just be open to change? Stories progress and characters change! I swear the worst part about the new 52 (despite maybe Rob Liefeld's stuff) is everyone complaining about it. :/

Thank you! lol the post of reason lol. I agree, I'm not even a HUGE Dick Grayson/NW fan(I think he's cool but I'm not obsessed nor hate him) but I do think this is a case where according to the responce "damned if you do, damned if you don't"

It's impossible to please everyone, who wants Dick to stay NW, who wants him to be the next Batman, start his own group, for him being a secret agent/not for it etc. It gets old real fast. IMO part of being a loyal fan to something is supporting and being openminded to changes, unless it's totally ridiculous(like say turn him into a serial killer) which clearly DC isn't doing....he's just fighting the bad guys now as a different kind of good guy. In a way he has no choice, given what happened with FE's arch.

I agree....some stuff I happen to like in New 52, Barry being back, Superman and others being more edgy and not so "goody goody", Darkseid being an actual badass again, Doomsday returning I can go on but people insist on bit$%ing and are stuck in the past instead of being open to changes in the future. This goes for both comics and movies btw, the amount of crying over MOS almost makes me ashamed to be a Superman fan....

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I'm not so mad with people not liking the change itself. It's some of the ridiculous reasons.I want Grayson as a superhero but hey, I also want him to do something new and different. I kinda got what I asked for. At first, I was mad. But reading the article I had read, they wanted you to feel that way! He looks like he's using a gun. What does this mean? They're not trying to ruin him(this time) with this direction!

He finally gets like the thing people been asking for: A Solid Creative Team, a great artist, and a world of his own! At this point, we can only read to see how this is. But really. Think about it for a minute! He finally gets less ties to Batfamily and more focus on him as a character. Is that bad? If you think about it, the Batfamily tends to take him for granted or just flat out rude to him lately. New 52 at least(Alfred and Damian are exceptions). If you notice the bad attitude, you might find it cool that his absense might affect the family. Batman will know but he can't just talk to Dick like he use to now. And there was probably times he passed it up for his crusade. At least the eldest son's importance will be known once again(Now if we get Tim to get actual importance, that'll be cool! :P But this isn't about Tim. Another time)

In any case, it seems for once DC has taken measure to ensure this direction doesn't have him compared to Batman. And that's something good for once. Shame he isn't Nightwing to do it but hey, he'll come back to it and with the Spy thing done and set, we'll have another thing to say that makes him different from Batman...assuming this direction works out!

Now I do understand why a great many are sad: He's not a vigilante superhero. But that's not Dick Grayson either. He's been operating like that a lot though and is preffered but that's not what he is. He's a Superhero! Those people, above all, in a fiction universe are not there to look awesome(Just a side effect). But to inspire you to do good. Plain and simple. And he's that in or out of the costume(He was a great cop! And he was actually a nice mobster! He's been in occupations before with guns but those stories turn out to be fun and interesting. He barely used the guns, even when confronted with it! It's pre-52 but DC has done it before.) Him being a spy will test him. And I hope he succeeds. Maybe Spyral turns into a better and gooder(If that's a word) organization when he's done with it! LOL! I hope something positive comes out of this!

What annoys me is the complaints that're simply untrue or stupid to do to begin with. I see comparison thrown around like crazy. First off, stop comparing him to Tim and Jason. This direction is focusing on him and him only! This is not going do the same effect. I'm tried of people comparing Grayson to them when he's been around for 74 years and has outsold them in their respective series and has had many more appearances. And is more widely popular them those 2. Not wanting to come off as a hater to both cause I love them but honestly, quit it! He's not them and they're not him. I find it extra interesting they compare Grayson to him because those 2 character have reaped his history and friends and there's people who likes the fact Tim is a founding teen titans member(He just suffers from Lobdell's pen. Not for long though.) and Jason has his friends and looks better then Grayson(Oh god, the threads I've seen). This isn't an arms race for who's the better Former Robin. But no one really complained about taking Grayson's direction to the other robins. And when someone did take notice, they get sent off as "Oh they're just jealous our fav. robin finally gets spotlight and their favorite can't do whatever now." Those character were based off of him. He was their template. Without him, those characters wouldn't have existed. So stop the comparison. He's used a gun multiple times before Jason was even thought to revive(He used a dart gun in NTT on Cheshire and as Officer Grayson. Those times were years before Jason's return in 2005) and has been a bright person, too! Without Robin, there would be no Nightwing, Red Hood, Red Robin.

Also with Winter Soldier, his existence is also due to Grayson's success as Robin. Many companies then did sidekicks after seeing the success DC had. I know the sidekick thing didn't last with Marvel cause it cramps their style but DC didn't quit with it. But in any case, part of his existence is due to Grayson as it is. Comparing Grayson to him is funny too. But um....the dumb part is people are thinking this direcitons is just like him. How? Bucky was a brainwashed ASSASSIN. It's stupid to try and compare him to Bucky. Bucky is his own awesome hero. They're similar in some ways but DC isn't copying him. So stop.

Also, Spyral is not SHIELD. Where in the world did people even get the notion? SHIELD is 91032103901283912031280x better. They deal in everything. Spyral is a international spy agency. It's not government runed. It's runed by Kathy Kane, the first and former Batwoman. He's not going into the CIA or anything like that. He's dealing with shady gray good guys. Read Batman Incorporated and you would know that! But it seems Marvel finatics who just watched the Winter Soldier movie saw this and made stupid comparisons.

I'm really tired of the comparisons and stuff. If you don't like Dick being a Spy that's fine. No one should be forcing anyone to like something. But don't use ridiculous reasons to justify. Comparing him to others is ridiculous. For once DC is trying to do something new and get him into his own world not centered by Batman or hidered by the batfamily.

In all, there's some good and bads. But this is new(and I dare say interesting.) and puts Dick into a new situation. He's done this before. Even as Batman, though it was something we could see coming. A lot of people didn't like the idea early on and preferred him being Nightwing too and Batman was the One True Batman..... but he was a fun Batman and had a good Robin along with him and had awesome stories! And proved to us even as Batman, Dick had his own ways. He was basically Nightiwng in a Batsuit but he did mold himself so he fit Bruce a little. But he was still the same acrobatic flippy boy he was. His personality unwavered and his methods did change(Not to drastically though). My point is.....like or hate it is fine! But don't pull out dumb reasons and comparisons to justify. You insult those character and his characters in doing so.

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So...the best of all Robins...now is only other anti-hero...

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@cobramorph: Won't the same thing happen to Jason If we make him a spy? Eventually, he'll go back to being Red Hood since soo many have a preference of him being that.

And no, don't put him back as Nightwing for now. Right now, too many writers are tempted to use Dick Grayson's Nightwing to elevate other characters or plot device for their big Bat-Event or whatever. Point blank, there needs to be some way to remind those he's his own character and he's beyond being a supporting character now.(This guy in a book where it's Bat-Centric outsold the Justice League in sales. So yes, he's beyond that. Think because Batman? Look at Talon and Batwing. Bat-Centric but don't get the sales.)

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You know i hate how stupid they make people in comics. I mean if Dick Grayson was revealed to be a superhero/vigilante. You would have to wonder who trained him and look in his background. Hey wasn't Nightwing originally Robin and partnered with Batman. I would be putting two an two together. Basically if Dick's identity is revealed it should be that much easier to figure out who Batman is but nooooooooooo

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Its a grapple gun

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What the hell lol !? I first thought this was a delayed April Fool's joke, but seriously lol. I don't think this series will last long.

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Biggest irony of them all. Dick Grayson fans are against change. Dick has been a hero since he was 9 and went through 4 hero identities. Robin, Nightwing, Renegade, and Batman. If we were to just not allow change in comics, Dick Grayson would be a 40 year old man still wearing the old Robin costume. Yeah, it sucks that the new 52 took away Donna, Wally AND GARTH (everyone forgets poor Garth), but they aren't taking away his Batfamily history, how are they going to wipe out the history. People complain that we haven't seen Dick and Tim interaction and people call them out on it saying that they aren't friends anymore, however during Batman Inc (new 52 volume) we saw them working together pretty nicely. Though, that takes away an argument from the fans. Seen complaints about Dick using a gun. I'm sorry, I didn't really see him using a gun. I saw a cover of him holding a gun in an action pose, if him holding a gun is considered using one, then I'll scan a few pages from the pre-reboot comics of Nightwing holding a gun. People want change in comics, yet they want the exact same things to happen. They have this small margin of change that could happen within the comics. Not too much change, the comics are stale and repetitive, too much change and "this is not the character I grew up with, not even recognizable". And in the end, you hate DC Comics for trying to please some fans. You don't have to like the changes they do but at least give this series a shot. Dick Grayson is definitely going to give out a few shots.

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I don't see Winter Soldier, but I see Agent Grant Ward. I'll give it a try but damn Nightwing will be missed.

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Hmm... I am curious how this will play out. A new direction for a beloved badass character isn't always a bad thing and at some point they'll bring him back to his Nightwing role. I'll give it a chance before shooting it down because Grayson needs a little more depth on his own and it'll genuinely push him to his limits while getting him out of the Bat-World and out of Blüdhaven.. err Chicago.

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I am conflicted dick is iconic to me as nightwing but I am excited for a new direction for the character, this shows me that dc is at least interested dicks character and is working to expand it. I do like the creative team

Lets just say I will be picking this title up (obviously since there is no Nightwing title now) and leave it at that

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I love Dick Grayson but honestly, I think dying would be better. Though, I'll check it out anyway. :)

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@lvenger: Characters getting taken out of there comfort zone is when the best stories are told. Now Dick get's to be 100% is own character without just being another Bat friend. Another one that annoys me is that "Batman doesn't let the Batfam use firearms" to which I say:

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  1. I do agree there even though the public identity of Dick Grayson did need to have a resolved conclusion. This way, it does get a final solution in the form of this new spy direction.
  2. I think a lot of fans don't want Dick Grayson to be taken way out of his comfort zone which is what this change serves to do. Dick's other changes all fitted within preconceived notions of what Nightwing would be doing as his own independent hero. Even becoming Batman made sense given that Dick was the first Robin and logically the best candidate to replace Bruce with his training and ideals and all that. This status quo shift takes Dick completely out of his mould and places him into a new situation. And evidently, this would annoy some fans, most of whom seem to be on Comicvine.
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@lvenger: There is a few things that people keep saying that are annoying me.

1. "Dick could easily keep being Nighting even after his identity went public and they could fix it by doing this, this and this"

These people are thinking about it all wrong, Nightwing getting exposed wasn't a problem to be solved, it was a calculated event by DC done so they could kickstart this new direction. It was done on purpose, it was hardly an accident.

2."Oh this book should be about Jason Todd or actual spies like Peacemaker or this guy and this guy"

Where is the intrigue in Todd or these other characters playing spies? They could all do it with there eyes closed, there is no drama in that, it would be boring. But Dick is a superhero that's never done anything like this before and the whole point in the book is seeing how he deals with that.

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Lol comic book fans in a nutshell

DC kills nightwing: No DC!! You bastards you killed my favorite character!

DC changes nightwings status quo: No DC!! You bastards ruined my favorite character!

DC does nothing with nightwing: DC never takes any risk or does anything new :/

Why can't we just be open to change? Stories progress and characters change! I swear the worst part about the new 52 (despite maybe Rob Liefeld's stuff) is everyone complaining about it. :/

The article's comments summed up in a nutshell regrettably.

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@redwingx said:

Hello. Two things. This party above is unnecessary. Rest of your comment was fine, and could do without this point. Secondly, as per your other post, CV has a no swearing policy. Please abide by it, thank you.

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Lol comic book fans in a nutshell

DC kills nightwing: No DC!! You bastards you killed my favorite character!

DC changes nightwings status quo: No DC!! You bastards ruined my favorite character!

DC does nothing with nightwing: DC never takes any risk or does anything new :/

Why can't we just be open to change? Stories progress and characters change! I swear the worst part about the new 52 (despite maybe Rob Liefeld's stuff) is everyone complaining about it. :/

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A super-spy????

How utterly stupid. This storyline has come too far for an end result like this. If he's supposed to be dead to his loved ones, he doesn't need a G on his chest. Are you sure that Forever Evil isn't an extended dream episode from the show Dallas? Dick Grayson / Nightwing was one of the more saving, interesting characters in the DC universe. Playing second fiddle to the Batman is his characters own hang up. If DC would just explore and resolve that aspect of his personality, he could then move on to bigger and better things. It is a cop out. To do this to the character is not only "unexpected", the idea sucks.

Wait—I think you have it backwards. You just admitted this was "unexpected". Isn't doing what you'd expect a copout?

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After a day or so thinking about this I find myself thinking this could be an interesting and good idea. Ive always liked Grayson but there really hasnt been any great Nightwing stories before or even after the new 52. Nightwing has become stale and to take him out of the mask at least for awhile I think will be good.

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When I first heard the news, I was upset that Dick would no longer be a superhero. But I'm thinking this will only be temporary and it's probably easier to revert a character who became a spy to a superhero than to bring back a dead character. I'm thinking from what I read in the interview (the part where Bruce is the only one that knows he's alive) that Bruce has tasked him with getting intel on Kathy Kane. Because at the end of Batman Incorporated, she said something like "Don't try to find me" Right? Furthermore, the gun is probably DC's attempt to bring him out of Batman's shadow. But let's face it. Since he was originally created to be Batman's sidekick, he will always be in Bruce's shadow, now matter what they do to him. It is absolutely impossible to completely remove him from it Also it's not like he's working for the US government. The interview said Spyral is an international agency. ARGUS, on the other hand is a US agency. And Checkmate was taken over by Maxwell Lord and is more of a rogue agency now. And I don't see the similarity to Bucky. Really it stops at they're original Golden Age sidekicks who have gone through rough times and are sorta spies. Saying Grayson is like Winter Soldier is like saying that Daredevil, Moon Knight, etc, etc are all exactly the same as Batman because they're street level crime-fighters who use martial arts.

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I personally really think this move can pay great dividends. I myself really like NW but let's face it, the moment that mask came off NW was dead in one form or another. Him becoming a spy/agent presents alot of possibilities. Will he have turmoil with Bruce WHEN he finds out, will he be a bridge between the government and the JL/heros, will he become an enemy with TONS of inside information????? My biggest issue is the gun. It's very out of character and I hope it changes. Then again the character himself must have gone thru some pretty radical changes to trade in the escrimas for a gun. In the end the DC haters will HATE this as per the norm and the people who actually give it a shot may or may not be surprised. I myself am excited for the new direction.

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Couple of things here gaiz. First off, aren't Spyral supposed to be bedfellows of Leviathan being that Otto Netz(Agent Zero) assisted Talia in triggering Oroboro? He was a nazi master criminal running a UN sanctioned spy agency and tried killing Batman. Nobody sees anything wrong with that picture? Granted, he was allegedly slain by Damian(or was it Netz' impersonator?) but it sounds like that hasn't stopped Spyral from utilizing mind erosion gases and various brainwashing techniques.

Secondly, since Dick is leaving the batfamily behind to become an agent of Spyral does it mean he also has to retire the Nightwing mantle? After all don't El Gaucho and The Hood--who relies on a flare gun mind you, don't these two field operatives don their costumed garbs when they punch in for work everyday? A healthy solution would be to switch up Nightwing's profile a bit. Let him grow his hair out and sport the classic blue along with the bird symbol. It wouldn't be as recognizable as what he wore previously. Food for thought.

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oh great now he will get way more ass from woman than every b4 oh lord. Still how would him being a spy make sense whene every bad guy will already know who he is though. Oh well i guess i'll wait and see.

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How is this like WS since has powers/enhanced, Grayson doesn't and very different ;)

But interesting news non the less ;)

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@thewalkingdeadpool18: IDK, I think by doing this DC wants look behind the mask, and focus more on Dick Greyson. If he was Nightwing all the time I feel like we would lose some of that. Plus he just doesn't have the means to protect himself or others if people knew who he was.

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@captainmarvel4ever:

Like i said though continuing Nightwing doesn't make it worse either. Sure you could argue him being alive makes him specifically still a target while the fake death doesn't but that's why i said give up Dick Grayson and go Nightwing full time that way he is no more a target then anytime he puts on the costume.

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@captainmarvel4ever:

But neither continuing being NightWing nor giving it up will make it better or worse it's indifferent the damage is done him and the people he cares about and the batfamily will be gunned no matter what.

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I'll give it a chance out of my absolute love for Dick...wait.

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@captainmarvel4ever:

But it's still already known he is Nightwing. HIm getting rid of the mantle doesn't make people go "well he's done now so leave him alone" The secret is out giving up Nightwing won't do crap his loved ones are still in danger as well as the Batfamily. It's like if Bruce Wayne announced to the world he's Batman and that he's giving it up. You think people would just leave him alone after that? He would be dead with in the day. The damage is done his secret is out, giving up Nightwing doesn't put them in any less danger. If anything he should've gotten rid of the Dick Grayson alter ego now and just went hero full time only taking break for the essentials like sleeping. But this is DC they will retcon it in no time.

They plan on faking his death. The only person that will know he's alive will be Bruce.