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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Arkillo vs. Hulk

Who's left standing when these two titans clash? Plus, there's a tease for who's brawling next week!

Voting and debate is now over for the first 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' between two massively heavy hitters! Arkillo was Sinestro's second in command for a reason. He's an incredibly formidable and fearsome character and had no problem slaughtering numerous Green Lanterns and giving Kilowog all kinds of hell during the Sinestro Corps War. Eventually, it took crushing him with a gigantic aircraft carrier and then hitting him with a blast to keep him down for the count. But Hulk is especially notorious for being incredibly difficult to put down as well, and as you know, the longer he's in the fight, the more devastating his smashing will become. So, who did the Comic Vine community think would win if these two strong characters (current versions) went head-to-head in an unpopulated city? According to 64% of them, the Green Goliath would knock Arkillo out.

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The current leader of the Sinestro Corps earned 34% of the votes and 2% -- including myself -- thought it was too close to call. Despite Arkillo's potential with his ring, the community favors Hulk's raw physical might and the fact he'll grow stronger and stronger over time. In turn, this renders him much more difficult to defeat, too. Additionally, Arkillo's mindset is an immediate disadvantage when fighting someone like the Hulk. As seen in his numerous fights with Kilowog, Arkillo's a brutal and arrogant brawler. He seems to relish a physical challenge and, despite using his ring for an assortment of projectiles and melee weapons in combat, he isn't prone to immediately using it for more complex and tactical options which would be really effective in this scenario. This could be a huge mistake against the Jade Giant and when he does eventually reach a conclusion he needs to focus more on using his ring and keeping a distance between the two, Hulk may be too strong at that point and shatter the constructs. Honestly, I think a rational argument can be made for either character in this case and just don't see either winning with ease.

Viner Argument of the Week for the Hulk is by Extremis:

"I think Hulk takes this. Barely though as this would be one hell of a fight. Arkillo could simply BFR, but judging on the character it's more within him to want to go toe to toe with hulk on land like he did with Wog before even thinking about BFR. He'd hang in for quite a bit, using constructs and what not but ultimately I don't think he'd expect the Hulk to be so durable; not for his strength to grow so significantly. I think by the time Arkillo realizes his strength is bested (which he wouldn't openly believe as he is a beast character) Hulk would be too angry, too strong and Arkillo's chances of removing Hulk in a construct become very very slim. Hulk could probably easily break such a construct at that point as not only for his increased rage and strength, but because Arkillo's power ring charge would surely be waning.

Hulk wins by a nose, and basically Arkillo's hubris, in a fight for the ages. If this was a more thought out lantern, this would be a completely different story as BFR would easily take this. Someone like Hal, Sinestro or Kilowog would pull this out. Ultimately though, that makes this a great battle choice!"

What does Tony 'G-Man' Guerrero, Editor-in-Chief of CV, think about Arkillo vs. Hulk?

"Batman wins."

What about fellow staff writer, Mat 'Inferiorego' Elfring?

"Which Hulk are we using here? Maestro Hulk, World War Hulk, Planet Hulk, Grey Hulk, Red Hulk, Hulk Kababobs, Hulk Creole, Hulk Gumbo, Pan-fried, deep-fried, stir-fried, pineapple Hulk, lemon Hulk, coconut Hulk, cave Hulk, Hulk stew, or Old Man Logan Hulk? Either way, I give this one to Hulk because the more you hurt him, the angrier he gets and he's has a lot more time with his powers. Akrillo is still relatively new to his powers. What I'm saying is that I like Hulk more and logic be darned!"

And finally, what about Mark Waid, the writer of INDESTRUCTIBLE HULK?

"Hulk doesn't need jewelry to fight."

Last but certainly not least, here's a tease for next week's battle! Have fun guessing and check the homepage on Monday to see who the characters are. Keep in mind, I never stated this feature would be only Marvel vs. DC battles!

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Previous 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' results

Gregg Katzman is a freelance writer for Comic Vine and IGN Entertainment. This is the part where he shamelessly plugs his Twitter page in hopes of getting a new follower or two.

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The Yellow Lantern Corp should hand his a$$ down

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@theacidskull: It is Hard Being a Hulk Fan, if you give up on the HULK, you could miss out on Planet Hulk

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Arkillo should win, imo. Not only is he on par with hulk in terms of strength in durability, he has a ring, and he can fly! He has ranged attacks, energy constructs, shields, plus his own strength and durability. Thats enough to win. Arkillo Smash!

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@darkday: X-23 is skilled enough to beat Lady deathstrike , someone who has give wolverine some serious trouble. has fought Daken, who is VERY skilled and powerful, and has outsmarted and outperformed wolverine ( Weapon X program).

Snake eyes is skilled, but x-23 is on par with him

Well I'd point out that Lady Deathstrike when she lost to Laura was letting her arrogance get he better of her. It's true that she's given Wolverine problems in the past, but likewise I don't think she was taking X seriously until after Hellion was injured at which point it was sort of almost already over. Also I'd argue that Daken doesn't have a lot of skill showing honestly, his biggest claim to fame was probably his pheromones powers that were never truly explored or completely explained. He gave Wolvie some trouble and Deadpool, but I can't think of anyone he just straight out fought in pure skill (sans pheromones) that he didn't already pretty much outclass physically anyway. Of course I say this having not read a lot of Daken's solo series, so I could be wrong there.

Again I'd point out that in Target X Laura also outperformed Wolverine in simulations, but that doesn't automatically make her a match for him. The thing with Wolverine is that he has much more combat experience and training than anyone else in his "Family". He's the heavyhitter not so much because their powers are so drastically different than his own but rather because he has both more martial training (skills, styles, what have you) as well as practical experience than anyone else.

So that said I don't believe she's on par with him at all. Check this out.

I'm not saying that Laura can't do some of the things he can, but I am saying that she can't do all of them. They aren't peers when it comes to skill in my mind.

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HULK SMASH!

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@darkday: We will see what arguments can be made. I think popularity wise votes will not be so influence, X-23 is not as popular as Daken or Wolverine, and Snake Eyes is well known and liked. So we will see what the masses believe.

True enough, though I don't know if I agree with popularity being a non-issue. X-23 while not Wolverine, I'd argue that she is probably more popular than Daken. And again I don't doubt we'll get people that don't really know much about either character that will just say... "Well Wolverine handles ninjas all the time so why can't girl-wolverine." I'm not saying that's how it will go, but I'm pretty cynical in my everyday life and it transfers over to the internet.

With people that know one or both of the characters though, I'd say that I'm interested to see what people think and how the debates will play out. Laura isn't Logan (thank God honestly) and Snake Eyes isn't just some Hand fodder ninja.

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@darkday: We will see what arguments can be made. I think popularity wise votes will not be so influence, X-23 is not as popular as Daken or Wolverine, and Snake Eyes is well known and liked. So we will see what the masses believe.

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@k4tzm4n Who picks these fights? And what's it going to take to see some Cyborg-Superman vs Dr Doom?

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Don't know much about X - 23 but I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be a stomp. Only people underestimating Snake Eyes would say that. Still, I'll wait. Could be good.

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@cadencev2 said:

@darkday said:

@cadencev2 said:

How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

Firstly Wolverine is more durable than her because of his adamantium, secondly Bats/Wolverine are closer in fighting ability. Snake Eyes is a better fighter, period. She can heal, however she can be dismembered. So not the same fight at all.

Except X-23 is also a very skilled fighter and would not sit there and let Snake Eyes dice her to pieces. So.....

Pretty much. not taking anything from snake eyes but x-23 practically has all of his skills along with seriously insane endurance and a HF.

You are taking something from Snake Eyes if you think that Laura can do everything he can. She could be faster than him, she has better regeneration, endurance, and maybe even more damage potential (arguable considering he owns an unbreakable sword) but she is not as skilled as he is. Snake Eyes may be a big fish in a little pond comparatively speaking but that doesn't make him any less impressive just because his opponent is from a rougher part of town.

@k4tzm4n said:

@cadencev2 said:

@darkday said:

@cadencev2 said:

How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

Firstly Wolverine is more durable than her because of his adamantium, secondly Bats/Wolverine are closer in fighting ability. Snake Eyes is a better fighter, period. She can heal, however she can be dismembered. So not the same fight at all.

Except X-23 is also a very skilled fighter and would not sit there and let Snake Eyes dice her to pieces. So.....

That person never said otherwise. They just said Snake Eyes is more skilled.

Thank you very much. That was exactly what I said. X-23 is a decent fighter and I'm not taking anything from her but she isn't as skilled as he is. Also I'd point out to @cadencev2. She doesn't have to sit there if she can't out fight her opponent or isn't able to counter him. Now if she can, that becomes the question and the point of the next thread entirely. Personally I think it's a good fight and if that turns out to be the fight I give @k4tzm4n credit for another awesome match up.

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@k4tzm4n said:

@cadencev2 said:

@darkday said:

@cadencev2 said:

How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

Firstly Wolverine is more durable than her because of his adamantium, secondly Bats/Wolverine are closer in fighting ability. Snake Eyes is a better fighter, period. She can heal, however she can be dismembered. So not the same fight at all.

Except X-23 is also a very skilled fighter and would not sit there and let Snake Eyes dice her to pieces. So.....

That person never said otherwise. They just said Snake Eyes is more skilled.

Well I look forward to @esquire defending Snake Eyes. He beat me in more than one Tourney match with that ye old damneth ninja.

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@darkday said:

@cadencev2 said:

How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

Firstly Wolverine is more durable than her because of his adamantium, secondly Bats/Wolverine are closer in fighting ability. Snake Eyes is a better fighter, period. She can heal, however she can be dismembered. So not the same fight at all.

Except X-23 is also a very skilled fighter and would not sit there and let Snake Eyes dice her to pieces. So.....

That person never said otherwise. They just said Snake Eyes is more skilled.

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@darkday said:

@cadencev2 said:

How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

Firstly Wolverine is more durable than her because of his adamantium, secondly Bats/Wolverine are closer in fighting ability. Snake Eyes is a better fighter, period. She can heal, however she can be dismembered. So not the same fight at all.

Except X-23 is also a very skilled fighter and would not sit there and let Snake Eyes dice her to pieces. So.....

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x-23 vs snake-eyes

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How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

Firstly Wolverine is more durable than her because of his adamantium, secondly Bats/Wolverine are closer in fighting ability. Snake Eyes is a better fighter, period. She can heal, however she can be dismembered. So not the same fight at all.

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Yes next week snake eyes vs X-23. X-23 got this in the bag. What's a ninja going to her? She eat him in her sleep.

In terms of skill there are not many Marvel characters who can keep up with Snake Eyes and X-23 is way out of his league.

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lol..Nice

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Thanks YOU @g_man !!!!!

BATMAN WINS!!!

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Hulk Smash wins everytime.

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I take it we're talking about the full-on-rage one-liners green Hulk here right? The "Hulk Smash", "Puny (insert character name here)", "Hulk is strongest there is"? Because as pointed by others here this guy is nearly impossible to be put down. I seem to remember Hulk being the only survivor in a post-apocalyptic future ruled by some sort of insects who had a grudge match against him and would constantly swarm him and rip his flesh just to realize that his regenerative healing factor was too damn strong. Meanwhile this guy Arkillo (even though he gave some Lanterns a hell of a fight) was trashed multiple times by Kilowog. So the actual deciding factor would be if Arkillo's will is stronger than the Hulk's rage. And I don't think so.

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@frogjitsu said:

Deodato Jr. Hulk ftw! Man, Deodato's 'roided up art style is sic on the Hulk. Too awesome! What a yellow lantern hulk knockoff going to do against the real deal? His little puny "fear" powers will be of no use. Hulk don't fear him. Hulk SMAAASH!!!

Yes next week snake eyes vs X-23. X-23 got this in the bag. What's a ninja going to her? She eat him in her sleep.

awwww yeah!!!

Anyways I think arkillo shoudl've won

Yeah maybe In his dream !

Pshhh. He would've won through BFR but they had to make it a fair fight. He also would've had a chance beating him toe to toe as he is a great fighter and fights dirty.

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Why dont we invincible fight off against someone...??

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I figured Hulk would take it :) And clearly one of those is Snake Eyes for next week.

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@muyjingo said:

I still think this was a silly pick.

Ring > Hulk > Arkillo.

If the ring is out of the count, then Hulk win, no question.

If the ring is being used, it's no contest, Arkillo wins.

While Arkillo may not tend to use advanced constructs, he wouldn't have been made drill sergeant if he wasn't capable of. Once he sees Hulk is out of his league,the ring comes out and Hulk has no chance.

This

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@cadencev2: it doesn't matter how much gear you have, it's how effective said gear is. For this fight Snakes gear is more useful I would think. He carries an assortment of firearms, explosives, and bladed weapons regularly including a nigh unbreakable sword.

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"Hulk doesn't need jewelry to fight."

That's a great line.

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@cadencev2: I disagree X-23 is faster then wolverine.

But we will see what happens.

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@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2 said:

How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

I don't know if I agree. X-23 doesn't have wolverines adamantium defense (so she can be decapitated) and she isn't quite as skilled as Logan. And to be honest but I think batman actually has a decent chance against X-23.

Except would the faster than Logan by a small degree X-23 allow that? I think not. :)

We will see when it happens.

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How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

I don't know if I agree. X-23 doesn't have wolverines adamantium defense (so she can be decapitated) and she isn't quite as skilled as Logan. And to be honest but I think batman actually has a decent chance against X-23.

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Really liking this feature, thanks k4tzm4n.

And I'm going to have to research both Snake Eyes and X-23!

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Snake eyes duh!! Maybe the women Lady hydra? Also arkillo should of won I mean Lanterns in general are so OP.

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I personally think that Arkillo lost solely because so many were unaware of how much physical strength he actually has WITHOUT the ring. Many (including myself) didnt know that Arkillo is a brute even without the ring as seen when he nearly beat Mongul a Superman level villain without his ring. With that much strength plus the ring I just dont see how Hulk could win.

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Snake Eyes vs X-23! Nice. Should be a good one.

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@comicace3:

@frogjitsu said:

Deodato Jr. Hulk ftw! Man, Deodato's 'roided up art style is sic on the Hulk. Too awesome! What a yellow lantern hulk knockoff going to do against the real deal? His little puny "fear" powers will be of no use. Hulk don't fear him. Hulk SMAAASH!!!

Yes next week snake eyes vs X-23. X-23 got this in the bag. What's a ninja going to her? She eat him in her sleep.

awwww yeah!!!

Anyways I think arkillo shoudl've won

Yeah maybe In his dream !

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How can Snake Eyes possibly win vs X-23? This be the same as Batman vs Wolverine. Only Batman has more gear.

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How is Arkillo even in the same league as the Hulk?

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Mark Waid is pretty much my new favorite comic hero after his comment. And I think actually watching a this fight on panel or animated would be pretty epic, I just find it a long and brutal fight which plays to Hulk's strengths more. Snake Eyes vs X-23? Sounds interesting, gotta do some reading since I don't know much about either.

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Deodato Jr. Hulk ftw! Man, Deodato's 'roided up art style is sic on the Hulk. Too awesome! What a yellow lantern hulk knockoff going to do against the real deal? His little puny "fear" powers will be of no use. Hulk don't fear him. Hulk SMAAASH!!!

Yes next week snake eyes vs X-23. X-23 got this in the bag. What's a ninja going to her? She eat him in her sleep.

awwww yeah!!!

Anyways I think arkillo shoudl've won

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Deodato Jr. Hulk ftw! Man, Deodato's 'roided up art style is sic on the Hulk. Too awesome! What a yellow lantern hulk knockoff going to do against the real deal? His little puny "fear" powers will be of no use. Hulk don't fear him. Hulk SMAAASH!!!

Yes next week snake eyes vs X-23. X-23 got this in the bag. What's a ninja going to her? She eat him in her sleep.

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And it is X-23:

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Logan himself has had trouble with ninja types in the past, so this probably won't be a walk in the park for X-23. Still, usual random meeting without time to prepare against a clawed healing mutant trained to kill from birth, it ends thusly:

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snakeyes

maybe electra or x-23

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Snake Eyes is winning this won

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buh, I thought my comment was better:

Hulk wins cause...

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