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Best Battles in New Comics: 6/27/14

Check out awesome action scenes from the latest issues of NEW AVENGERS, INVINCIBLE, and DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE!

Thanks for checking out the latest edition of this week's Best Battles in New Comics! If you're knew to the weekly segment, all you need to know is this is the spot where we celebrate some of the best action scenes from the latest round of new comics. We don't mean to brag, but you've picked a pretty great week to visit the segment! First up, we have the closest thing you'll get to seeing a modern fight between Marvel's heroes and the Justice League. After that, you'll visit Invincible's universe for a big dose of chaos. Last and most definitely not least, you'll observe two fan favorite characters from Marvel engaging in a fun yet violent fight.

If you're not a fan of the ones we picked, we encourage you to praise the one you have in mind instead of simply posting something like, "why isn't ___ in here?" It just may motivate someone to check out the comic, after all. Also, we have a discussion thread for this segment and check it frequently on Wednesdays and Thursdays. So if there's a fight you like in a new comic, be sure to recommend it in that thread before we write the feature!

*This contains a few INVINCIBLE spoilers!*

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NEW AVENGERS #20

An epic battle between the Illuminati and the Great Society has been building for quite some time, and with the latest chapter, writer Jonathan Hickman and artist Valerio Schiti finally deliver a fight. And yes, it's every bit as glorious as you'd want it to be! Reed Richards and Beast are taken out off panel (way to represent for team 616, chumps), but several other match-ups are still underway and Hickman chimes in on all of them. The Rider, who's essentially Batman's analogue, dukes it out with Black Panther. It's basically a stalemate as these two avoid melee attacks and projectiles. It's a blast watching these two skilled and tech heavy characters go at it and really makes you wonder what would happen if T'Challa and the true Dark Knight really were at odds. Anyway, here's a glimpse of their awesome skirmish.

Do you think Batman vs. T'Challa would be this even?
Do you think Batman vs. T'Challa would be this even?

Really cool, right? That's a terrific street level fight, but when we're talking about teams this diverse, that means we're also going to be treated to a slugfest between two powerhouses. It's time for Hulk vs. the Sun God. Guess which DC Justice Leaguer he's an analogue of? No, not Lex Luthor! Come on, it's Superman! The Man of Steel vs. Hulk is a heated debate which still goes on to this very day. In this issue, the two heroes have a mighty clash, but eventually Hulk begins to do what he does best.

More like the most arrogant one there is.
More like the most arrogant one there is.

Is that enough to keep the Sun God down for the count? Let's just say Hickman does indeed pick a winner and we won't spoil the answer in here. While many of these fights are balanced (Namor and their version of Martian Manhunter, the Jovian, are locked in a stalemate), one fight isn't very fair at all: Iron Man vs. The Great Society's Flash analogue, Boundless. It isn't Tony's finest hour.

A taste of what Flash vs. Iron Man could be like.
A taste of what Flash vs. Iron Man could be like.

In case you're wondering, Black Bolt followed Doctor Spectrum and they're now both off-world, but we haven't even shown you the main event: Doctor Strange vs. Doctor Fate's analogue, The Norn! The other fights are entertaining, but this one's the game changer. You won't want to miss how this fight unravels and the cliffhanger it leaves us on.

INVINCIBLE #112

There was a spoiler alert in the intro, but just in case you glossed over it, here's another warning: THAR BE SOME INVINCIBLE SPOILERS IN HERE! We don't give away all of the details or the ending, but if you haven't read the latest issue or if you're trade waiting, we recommend scrolling to the next highlight. Can't say we didn't warn you.

After spending an absurd amount of time in the Flaxans' dimension, Robot has returned with one simple mission: to rule the Earth. He believes that if he has total control of the planet, he can make it a better place for everyone. Unless he thinks you'd disagree with the plan, that is. If so, he's going to kill you. You know, for the greater good and all that. Robot already attacked Invincible and Eve, and now the character is setting his sights on various members of the Guardians of the Globe. Remember, we told you there's some spoilers in here. In order to highlight all of the madness, there's no good way to avoid some of them. But don't worry, there's plenty we're not showing you.

Sadly, this isn't a trick by Loki. That hand is gone for real.
Sadly, this isn't a trick by Loki. That hand is gone for real.

Try to find it in your heart to forgive the upcoming pun, but artist Ryan Ottley, inker Cliff Rathburn and colorist John Rauch did a killer job with these pages. Robot's projectiles make the violence less bloody but that doesn't mean they're any less horrific. Much of the issue is Robot going around and killing any hero that's likely to stand against the grand plan, so obviously, that means there's a lot of murder going on. Considering they do such a great job with the character's expressions, it makes some of these deaths pretty tough to observe.

Ryan Ottley sure knows how to dish out impactful violence. Yeesh.
Ryan Ottley sure knows how to dish out impactful violence. Yeesh.

This issue isn't limited to just one violent encounter, of course. Robot also assaults the Pentagon. Outnumbered and facing increasingly difficult odds, Robot eventually unleashes a secret weapon to even the odds. And by "even the odds" we mean "make the fight totally unfair" and you need to read the issue to see the full impact of what happens. We won't show you how it concludes, but here's an epic punch from the scene. You can't have an edition of Best Battles in New Comics without a good serving of those, after all.

A punch that's worthy of its onomatopoeia.
A punch that's worthy of its onomatopoeia.

INVINCIBLE continues to shock and we haven't even scratched the surface of what goes down in this bloody issue. How does Monster Girl react? What happens at the Pentagon? Does anyone survive the attacks by Robot? Go read the issue for all of the details!

DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE #4

Cullen Bunn and Salva Espin's crazy limited series comes to an end! As expected, it wraps up with a big ol' brawl between the Merc with a Mouth and Carnage. You didn't expect anything else from a book called "DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE" did you?! If you've been following along, then you know Wade Wilson has found a way to even the odds in this finale: he's wearing several symbiotes. As talented as Deadpool may be, there's just no denying Carnage has a large physical edge. However, these symbiotes give him a new set of abilities and he takes full advantage of them during his initial assault against the infamous Spider-Man villain. It's a pretty cool display, but after humiliating Cletus Kasady a little bit, it's back to the basics for Wade... and for him, that often means filling his enemies with a lot of lead. Well, the somewhat upgraded basics thanks to those tendrils!

Who else really wanted Deadpool to scream
Who else really wanted Deadpool to scream "get over here"?

Bunn and Espin never lose sight of this limited series' primary goal: to keep things fun! Even though this is a bloody showdown between two lethal and dark characters, artist Epsin and colorist Veronica Gandini transform the gruesome encounter into something that has an almost cartoon-ish and comedic experience. They pummel and dismember one another, but instead of feeling shockingly graphic, it constantly reminds us that these are two characters that can take it and almost seem to relish the fight.

So much wonderful mayhem.
So much wonderful mayhem.

The fact these two can take so much damage plays perfectly into the tone Bunn creates for this limited series, too. He can have these two slaughter one another all day long, and at the end of it, they could still grab a cup of coffee and talk about how much they hate Spider-Man. Okay, the latter is very unlikely, but the point still remains. Deadpool's accelerated healing factor means he can take a huge amount of punishment (and not to mention stabs from a symbiote), and, thanks to his red symbiote, Carnage is a dude that's incredibly tough to keep down. That means this book can take hilarious yet savage turns and keep on going. Here's a prime example of that.

Bet you didn't think someone would get stabbed in the face with intestines, did you?
Bet you didn't think someone would get stabbed in the face with intestines, did you?

We all had our theories on how Bunn would wrap this up, but we can almost guarantee that none of you will see the ending coming. Overall, DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE is basically everything you'd expect it to be If non-stop comedy and these two fighting over and over again sounds like a good time to you, then you should obviously check it out! The limited series may be over, but it's looking like it won't be the last time we see these two in the same story. Promotion art seems to imply both of these characters will be in Marvel's upcoming event, Axis.

Honorable Mentions

  • SUPERMAN #32
  • LARFLEEZE #12
  • DEADLY CLASS #6
  • AQUAMAN #32
  • ALL-NEW GHOST RIDER #4
  • AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #3
  • RED LANTERNS #32
  • NEW AVENGERS ANNUAL #1
  • X-O MANOWAR #26
  • ORIGINAL SIN: HULK VS. IRON MAN #1
  • C.O.W.L. #2
  • SHADOWMAN: END TIMES #3

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What are your top three fights from this latest round of new comics? Also, don't forget to make nominations every week in the official thread or tell us via Twitter. See you next Friday and have a good weekend!

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@demonknights said:

@Twix_right_side: actually it IS the battle forums. Check the bottom where it says comic vine > forums > battles. I actually recognized and fixed that error already.

're check what I said. Doesn't....change much.

*I said the league Wrecks most avengers lineups and that it would Take an upgraded roster for the avengers to have a Chance. And again,I disagree,because empty statements mean nothing.

*Iron man is a joke compared to anyone of the 7 except batman. Stop it. Lol So he has no chance against the likes of Wonder Woman or Aquaman? This is that thing I said earlier about showing respective knowledge of the characters. I don't really see how he's a "joke" really,but okay. If you say so...

* lastly you say I didn't prove anything. And I say well no..duh. you didn't ask me anything. What? I am confused,I thought that when you make statements,that you must support them rather than pretend as if it's a universal truth. That's why I rewrote your comment above.

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About this Hulk vs Sun God thing, wasn't Banner working on a device to limit Hulk's strength last issue? Could that be why Sun God took him out so easily?

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* I know that you disagree. And your comments are just as empty. But I don't fault you for it cause the debating hasn't begun.

*yes. Iron man doesn't stand a chance against anyone on the justice league besides batman. I'd say aquaman but he's a 100 tonner with telepathy so I don't even think he could beat Arthur.

*you keep talking about knowledge but that's silly since, again, the debating hasn't started and u don't know how extensive my knowledge of the characters is. Lol

*yea I can see you're confused. Let me clear it up. I don't have to do anything. Nobody here is required to do anything other than abide by the rules. And I have. You took issue with what I said. You had a problem with it. And u think I should have done something that isn't required of me. Now that you got mad, now we can talk about why I said what I said. I hope that cleared it up for you. Welcome to comicvine.

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@k4tzm4n said:

@twix_right_side: @demonknights Hey, care to discuss Avengers vs. Justice league without all of the petty remarks? Stick to the facts and leave the personal nonsense out of it. WHY do you think the team should win? Which characters are game changers and who do they counter? All of this can be said without insulting the other person.

Was gonna say the same thing...with also taking it somewhere else

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Invincible has been amazing lately.

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* I know that you disagree. And your comments are just as empty. But I don't fault you for it cause the debating hasn't begun.

So you acknowledge the notion that "The Justice league stomps..." is an empty one,just as much as thinking that any side stomps? Okay. Just making sure.

*yes. Iron man doesn't stand a chance against anyone on the justice league besides batman. I'd say aquaman but he's a 100 tonner with telepathy so I don't even think he could beat Arthur. Iron Man has telepathic defenses.Not only that,but Iron man's strength (although Arthur is stronger) is also past 100 tons. However,more importantly,he usually keeps his distance in the air instead of fighting up close (as he even remarked in the recent Avengers). He also has diverse weapons such as rockets,lasers,repulsors,sonics,etc

*you keep talking about knowledge but that's silly since, again, the debating hasn't started and u don't know how extensive my knowledge of the characters is. Lol To be fair,you haven't really shown said knowledge on the characters based off of your comments.

*yea I can see you're confused. Let me clear it up. I don't have to do anything. Nobody here is required to do anything other than abide by the rules. And I have. You took issue with what I said. You had a problem with it. And u think I should have done something that isn't required of me. Now that you got mad, now we can talk about why I said what I said. I hope that cleared it up for you. Welcome to comicvine.

Welcome to Comicvine? You do see my post count,correct? You do realize how condescending that sounds,right? Is that in the rules?

Also,I thought that it was customary for people to support their statements? If that's not required,then I guess Iron Man can beat Superman?

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@twix_right_side:

*Of course it's empty. There's no proof. Pretty obvious.

*I'm well aware of iron man's capabilities. That's why I said he has no chance against anyone other than batman. Arthur is stronger and has faster combat speed than iron man. He has an indestructible trident too. That's why I don't think Tony could even beat him either.

*again (for the 3rd time for those of us keep in count) the debating hadn't started.

*Yea I see your post count. Its under 2,000. And you seemed to not know which forum you were in. So you seemed new. Apologies if you thought that it sounded condescending.

* to further explain why I said welcome to comicvine, I Point to you statement about what you expected. Well, again, welcome to comicvine. Its customary for users to give short answers. Usually one word posts. Why? Because they're answers. A user posts a battle and then people answer his question with who they think would win. Then someone takes issue with what someone says and then the debating begins. I hope that helps.

EDIT: you can say iron man beats superman but then the problem is you'd have to back it up.

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@demonknights said:

@twix_right_side:

*Of course it's empty. There's no proof. Pretty obvious.

*I'm well aware of iron man's capabilities. That's why I said he has no chance against anyone other than batman. So Iron Man,a powerhouse,has literally NO chance against anyone other than the street leveler? Even though he has the flight advantage against Aquaman? The speed advantage? The tactical weaponry advantage?

Arthur is stronger and has faster combat speed than iron man. He has an indestructible trident too. That's why I don't think Tony could even beat him either. Of course he's stronger,but that advantage is nuetralized when Iron Man is out of his reach. Also,if Arthur's trident is metal,can't he just take it away using the magnetic capabilities of his armor (or a tractor beam)? And an indestructible trident doesn't really mean a lot. Iron Man's not going to put a lot of effort into breaking it.

*again (for the 3rd time for those of us keep in count) the debating hadn't started. When will it start? Do you wanna do it in a PM or something?

*Yea I see your post count. Its under 2,000. And you seemed to not know which forum you were in. So you seemed new. Apologies if you thought that it sounded condescending. Wow. It's under 2000....and? That doesn't mean I just joined last week. And again,I said that I made a mistake. I even acknowledged that. Good to know that we can't make mistakes....

Also,that apology....forget it.

* to further explain why I said welcome to comicvine, I Point to you statement about what you expected. Well, again, welcome to comicvine. Its customary for users to give short answers. Usually one word posts. Why? Because they're answers. A user posts a battle and then people answer his question with who they think would win. Then someone takes issue with what someone says and then the debating begins. I hope that helps. Really? Because often I see that looked down upon because people want them to defend their position with points. For example,if someone said that Batman would beat Captain America in a fight by just answering "Batman" without explaining WHY,I usually see people ask them to elaborate,or at least that it's better that they defend their point from the beginning,rather than just give one-word answers so they can see WHY they win.Hope that makes sense because that was a bit of a mess.

EDIT: you can say iron man beats superman but then the problem is you'd have to back it up. Exactly.

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The battle didn't last too long. Considering that would limit just how angry Hulk was able to get, combined with the fact that this was a morals off, no-holding-back, Supes analogue, who was attempting to save the whole planet... Yeah,catching Hulk totally off gaurd, with his true power, made total sense. But when Steven took the same approach as "Supes"... Daaaayyyyuuum! Seriously, Hickman is the real beast here.

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*correct. Maaaaybe against Arthur.

*flight is indeed a big advantage. what's why I said maybe. The trident could impale iron man. And he's stronger and faster. He's smart too. He wouldn't just sit there and let iron man fly away. Ill stick with maybe.

*sorry. I thought 2,000 was kinda small. You asked me to look at it. You sound mad. Its fine that you made the mistake. You even acknowledged and corrected it. Its fine. I'm not jumping all over you for it. I just mentioned it to you to explain why I thought you were new. Well that and your post count.

*I'm just explaining to you how things work around here.

* exactly. Glad we agree.

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@demonknights said:

@Twix_right_side:

*correct. Maaaaybe against Arthur.

To be fair,at first you said that he had "no chance" against him.

*flight is indeed a big advantage. what's why I said maybe. The trident could impale iron man. And he's stronger and faster. He's smart too. He wouldn't just sit there and let iron man fly away. Ill stick with maybe.

The Trident may be able to impale Iron Man,but the problem is that Arthur will have to close the distance (which he can't,since,again flight) and even if he does,Iron Man always has those shields and ranged weapons. And in water he's faster,but I think that that's it. Tony also has a very tactical mind (let alone an analytical computer in his suit). Depending on the suit,Iron Man is kinda like a limited Green Lantern.

*sorry. I thought 2,000 was kinda small. You asked me to look at it. You sound mad. Its fine that you made the mistake. You even acknowledged and corrected it. Its fine. I'm not jumping all over you for it. I just mentioned it to you to explain why I thought you were new. Well that and your post count.

Mad? More like tired,agitated,etc.

I mean,if my post count was 15 or something then I could understand,but at almost 2,000,it's almost a bit late to still be unfamiliar (more or less) and green with this site.

*I'm just explaining to you how things work around here.

* exactly. Glad we agree.

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Oh, and guys, Iron Man is in NO WAY out of his league against Arthur. Edge to Arthur in my opinion, but that would be a helluva fight.

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* did i? Eh, I usually forget about aquaman. Not that it matters since iron man and aquaman aren't the deciding factors in why I think the avengers would normally get slaughtered against a normal justice league team

* the trident can impaled him. And he's faster which is why I think he would close the distance. Iron man wouldn't get off the floor, I don't think before he'd get impaled.

* Eh, no big deal. You think it's a lot and I thought that it was small. I coupled it with you not knowing which forum you were in and figured you were new.

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Invincible Reanimen get pwn by.... Robot!? I REFUSE To BELIEVE THIS!

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* did i? Eh, I usually forget about aquaman. Not that it matters since iron man and aquaman aren't the deciding factors in why I think the avengers would normally get slaughtered against a normal justice league team True on the first point. But I still don't think that the Avengers would get slaughtered against a normal league,but it depends on who's on the team. Which incarnation of both teams? As said,the original 7 vs the original 6(?) is heavily in favor of the JL. Current teams I would say is in favor of the Avengers. Young Justice lineup vs some other lineups is equally situation and lineup based,etc etc.

* the trident can impaled him. And he's faster which is why I think he would close the distance. Iron man wouldn't get off the floor, I don't think before he'd get impaled. In water,he's faster. In terms of travel speed (on land),Iron Man is faster. In terms of reaction time,Iron Man (depending on the armor) is also generally faster. It all depends on the conditions. Even on the floor,though,he still has his shields and other capabilities.

* Eh, no big deal. You think it's a lot and I thought that it was small. I coupled it with you not knowing which forum you were in and figured you were new.It's fine. As you said,no big deal.

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*of course it depends. Wht I've said all along is the league slaughters most versions of avengers. I might agree that based on feats the current avengers beat the current justice league considering the JL only have less than 3 years worth of feats. But again, all we have to do is add Alan Scott or Dr Fate or guys like that and then the league wins again. My point from the start was that the avengers only stand a chance against the regular 7 leaguers is when the strongest of their line ups are used. And unless it's not obvious or clear, let me just specifically say it. The regular 7 leaguer line up is not the most powerful.

* I'm using land of course by the way since its not specified to be in water s that's irrelevant. From seeing who they've fought, it would seem Arthur is faster in combat speed.

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@demonknights said:

@Twix_right_side:

*of course it depends. Wht I've said all along is the league slaughters most versions of avengers. I might agree that based on feats the current avengers beat the current justice league considering the JL only have less than 3 years worth of feats. But again, all we have to do is add Alan Scott or Dr Fate or guys like that and then the league wins again. My point from the start was that the avengers only stand a chance against the regular 7 leaguers is when the strongest of their line ups are used. And unless it's not obvious or clear, let me just specifically say it. The regular 7 leaguer line up is not the most powerful.

Well the Avengers also have many diverse power houses like Vision (due to intangibility),Scarlet Witch,Antman,Wasp,Iron Man,Wonder Man,Ms Marvel,Hulk,Hercules,Moondragon,Mantis,She Hulk,Doc Strange,Invisible Woman,Mr Fantastic,Captain Britain,Sentry,Hyperion,Valkyrie,Nova (Richard Rider),etc etc. Of course,as you can tell,all of these are from various lineups. And it's not just that the Justice League currently lacks feats to qualify,it's the fact that the current team has some of these powerhouses above,along with Starbrand,Smasher,and Captain Universe. It depends on which incarnation we are using,who's on the team,etc. Doc Strange can counter the Dr Fate point,for example,but the current lineup does not have Doctor Strange. I can also,by the same token,say that many lineups of the Avengers can beat many lineups of the league. It can even be said that most past versions would lose to the current version,and some in the past. It all depends. I see your point though (My point from the start was that the avengers only stand a chance against the regular 7 leaguers is when the strongest of their line ups are used),but in some cases the same can be said for some versions of the Avengers. It also depends on the versions of the characters,morals,etc.

I hope that mess made sense

* I'm using land of course by the way since its not specified to be in water s that's irrelevant. From seeing who they've fought, it would seem Arthur is faster in combat speed. I honestly haven't seen much from Arthur that would suggest that considering Iron Man's general feats (again,depends on armor)

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@lvenger said:

@holyserpent: Me too, not even I would say that Superman can one shot Hulk in the slightest. Strange writing from Hickman that the Superman analogue on The Great Society can one shot Savage Hulk.

In all honesty i been preaching this for while. If superman not holding back did it Doomsday recently . I am not even the slightest surprise, Hyperion can do it to hulk. I was arguing this recently in thread well and it has been proven. Hyperion did well :) good marvel superman :) u did well to prove my point :)

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lol...the things i read here...Iron Man wouldn't even beat Batman Beyond (Terry) 1-on-1 much less, anyone from the JLA.

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* I don't know how to quite say this...

Most of those characters you mentioned are fodder. I mean no disrespect but I literally read some of those names and laughed. I honestly mean no harm by that but I'm just telling you the truth.

*Vision isn't hard to take down for flash who can just vibrate him back from intangibility. Or just rip his head off before he goes intangible to begin with.

Scarlet Witch would get blitzed by any of superman Wonder woman or flash.

Antman I'm mot gonna get into cause he stands no shot.

Wasp, ditto. Gets slaughtered.

Iron Man has been covered. Has no chance unless it was one on one vs Arthur or batman.

Wonder Man gets TPd by the Martian or Arthur.

MsMarvel gets wrecked by anyone except batman.

Hulk would lose to everyone except batman and Arthur. See the trend?

Hercules, same.

Moondragon gets speed blitzed or just outright gets murked in telepathy.

Mantis everyone can beat her except batman.

She Hulk, same.

Doc Strange, would be tough for the original 7.

Invisible Woman, lol let's get real.

Mr Fantastic, Lmao.

CaptainBritain, superman.

Sentry, still gets a beat down.

Hyperion same as sentry. Superman Diana, flash, Martian..yawn.

Valkyrie..,seriously

Nova....superman, GL...cmon

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lol...the things i read here...Iron Man wouldn't even beat Batman Beyond (Terry) 1-on-1 much less, anyone from the JLA.

Iron man would stomp Terry.....I agree he loses to a majority of the justice league but batman beyond isn't in tony's league.

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@holyserpent: Me too, not even I would say that Superman can one shot Hulk in the slightest. Strange writing from Hickman that the Superman analogue on The Great Society can one shot Savage Hulk.

In all honesty i been preaching this for while. If superman not holding back did it Doomsday recently . I am not even the slightest surprise, Hyperion can do it to hulk. I was arguing this recently in thread well and it has been proven. Hyperion did well :) good marvel superman :) u did well to prove my point :)

might have to pick up the series but marvel books are to darn expensive. but i bet next book, Illuminati will comeback harder

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Not sure why people are getting worked up over this. Its not even the real justice league.

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@holyserpent: Me too, not even I would say that Superman can one shot Hulk in the slightest. Strange writing from Hickman that the Superman analogue on The Great Society can one shot Savage Hulk.

I wouldn't take it too seriously. Pretty sure HIckmans just building up strange in this issue. Not that I honestly disagree with the idea that the JLA>>>>>>>>New avengers by a few tiers.

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@bat_girl_cc said:

lol...the things i read here...Iron Man wouldn't even beat Batman Beyond (Terry) 1-on-1 much less, anyone from the JLA.

Iron man would stomp Terry.....I agree he loses to a majority of the justice league but batman beyond isn't in tony's league.

Hum...debatable, much like Tony, Terry's suit is also crazy durable, and he is always full of gadgets, plus, he also has "Old Bruce" to help him, even in battle.

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Hulk is the strongest one there is love it the answer he got in return love it.I am crying over here crying.I am glad someone on Marvel side get it right.

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@jashro44 said:

@bat_girl_cc said:

lol...the things i read here...Iron Man wouldn't even beat Batman Beyond (Terry) 1-on-1 much less, anyone from the JLA.

Iron man would stomp Terry.....I agree he loses to a majority of the justice league but batman beyond isn't in tony's league.

Hum...debatable, much like Tony, Terry's suit is also crazy durable, and he is always full of gadgets, plus, he also has "Old Bruce" to help him, even in battle.

Iron man has repulsor blasts which can level buildings with ease......Its not really debatable. Terry is a street leveller. Iron man is not.

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@Tensor: what happend? What was the retort

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@jashro44 said:

Not sure why people are getting worked up over this. Its not even the real justice league.

@lvenger said:

@holyserpent: Me too, not even I would say that Superman can one shot Hulk in the slightest. Strange writing from Hickman that the Superman analogue on The Great Society can one shot Savage Hulk.

I wouldn't take it too seriously. Pretty sure HIckmans just building up strange in this issue. Not that I honestly disagree with the idea that the JLA>>>>>>>>New avengers by a few tiers.

I think Strange is going to get out of control and both teams are going to have to stop him.

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@tensor: hulk wasn't even extremely angry. lol

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@tensor: spoilers won't open. Can u take them off

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@demonknights: As I said above,who are we putting up against who? Because there are many factors in the fight depending on the team,depending on if morals are on,etc. For example,I can say that Moondragon can wreck many of the league members via telepathy (arguably against J'onn,too). I can say that Antman can shrink most of the members or shunt them into another dimension,or that he can just get inside their bodies and destroy them.I am not sure if I see Hulk getting "destroyed' by everyone except Batman and Arthur,same with She Hulk. I would think that (if BFR is off),he can win against Superman (depends on the version of Hulk,and its honestly the most debatable contentious fight),and Wonder Woman. Or he can just use that portable lab (if he's shrunken down,if that's how he starts off) that he has. Invisible Woman,if she starts invisible,can just put a bubble in everyone's head and expand it,Ms Marvel can speedblitz Arthur,etc. I think that you are severely underestimating some of those people up there,but far more important,we can have counters for different people and list them all day. Vision can just stick his hand in Wonder Woman's head,or Arthur's after he comes from behind. Captain Britain can speedblitz Arthur (if that's what he does). Sentry...well,again,that's like Hulk vs Superman....But in any case,doesn't he have high-level molecular manipulation. Wonder Man can also beat many members,and lose to many.

etc etc. Point is "Some characters can win against some members,and lose against others". Because we can go all day with naming counters for people,although it depends on the conditions.

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@tensor: spoilers won't open. Can u take them off

Maybe in your universe,but not in this one.

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@medulaoblaganda: This is what I keep saying to you Hulk fans.Superman is way Stronger and more Powerful right away.How many times I use the simple point Hulk cannot beat Superman in Arm Wresting Competition.He has to get angrier before he gets stronger.I even pointed out to you in a recent comic, where one of the smartest mind in Marvel even said it to him,stay angry.We all know he will lose power if he is not in constant rage more.That is why he transform back to Banner.

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@twix_right_side: ok that confirms it. You're pretty new if you think some of those guys stand a shot. Tell you what, let's stop discussing it here. Make a thread with everyone you listed (except strange) vs the normal justice league. Bruce, clark, diana, wally, J'onn , Arthur and Hal. Post crisis and you seem to be using morals off it I'll leave that up to you. Make the thread and see what happens lol.

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@demonknights said:

@twix_right_side: ok that confirms it. You're pretty new if you think some of those guys stand a shot. Tell you what, let's stop discussing it here. Make a thread with everyone you listed (except strange) vs the normal justice league. Bruce, clark, diana, wally, J'onn , Arthur and Hal. Post crisis and you seem to be using morals off it I'll leave that up to you. Make the thread and see what happens lol.

???

That confirms that I'm new......?

Yeah,this is exactly confirmed my suspicions -____-

I figured that this would happen,so let's just end it here,as you said.

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Yes. Look for the thread. I'll make it in 19 min. Matter of fact, I'll tag you in it.

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@medulaoblaganda: This is what I keep saying to you Hulk fans.Superman is way Stronger and more Powerful right away.How many times I use the simple point Hulk cannot beat Superman in Arm Wresting Competition.He has to get angrier before he gets stronger.I even pointed out to you in a recent comic, where one of the smartest mind in Marvel even said it to him,stay angry.We all know he will lose power if he is not in constant rage more.That is why he transform back to Banner.

Hey tensor . I think we been preaching that for over 5 years now lol . What the other hulk fans fail to recognize that superman gets angry as well and his power/ speed/ strength and brutality rises. Clearly in this series this imitation version of superman wasn't trying to kill the hulk at all. If he was after he transformed back to Bruce banner he would have have just finished him off. If he had no morals on he wouldn't even had asked the other speedster to assist them. None of them didnt seem like they were trying to kill the avengers team.

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@twix_right_side:

Yes. Look for the thread. I'll make it in 19 min. Matter of fact, I'll tag you in it.

For? I thought that we were ending the discussion? Because truth be told,I can already see where this is going,and I'm not going to change your mind (and you won't change mine),and you clearly missed a lot of the important points in my post,so I really see no point in debating further. And hopefully you're not the type of person that's going to interpret this as "He chickened out. He knows he can't beat me. I win the argument",because that's not what this is.

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@termiteone4ever: True and I am not even talking about Sun dip which increase his powers more.

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Shame not event a honorable mention for New Warriors minus Justice and Speedball Vs Thor

These lists seem to get the popularity treatment, and yes i understand its ones opinion but a small mention helps some books alot more than putting ones we can see coming a mile away

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Had no idea what I was missing

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@jashro44: @jashro44: um have you read any of the batman beyond 2.0? Terry is far from Street Level now He can take on Lord Superman of the Justice Lords Which I don't think Iron man can do last time i checked Tony can't hold his own against someone like supes

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@mrgreenlantern said:

@jashro44: @jashro44: um have you read any of the batman beyond 2.0? Terry is far from Street Level now He can take on Lord Superman of the Justice Lords Which I don't think Iron man can do last time i checked Tony can't hold his own against someone like supes

What issue did he do this? Did he get an upgrade?

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It should have been the Odinson who fought the Sun God.

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@mrgreenlantern said:

Shame not event a honorable mention for New Warriors minus Justice and Speedball Vs Thor

These lists seem to get the popularity treatment, and yes i understand its ones opinion but a small mention helps some books alot more than putting ones we can see coming a mile away

Read the second paragraph, please. That blurb -- or something along the same lines -- has been in this segment for months upon months now.

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@jashro44 said:

@bat_girl_cc said:

lol...the things i read here...Iron Man wouldn't even beat Batman Beyond (Terry) 1-on-1 much less, anyone from the JLA.

Iron man would stomp Terry.....I agree he loses to a majority of the justice league but batman beyond isn't in tony's league.

Hum...debatable, much like Tony, Terry's suit is also crazy durable, and he is always full of gadgets, plus, he also has "Old Bruce" to help him, even in battle.

Iron man has repulsor blasts which can level buildings with ease......Its not really debatable. Terry is a street leveller. Iron man is not.

Does Iron Man perform those kind of feats, consistently though?